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My guess (not being a tram afficionado) is Blackpool, the vehicle is an English Electric Tram, number 204, photo here:

Possibly Gledhow Mount Mansion, Roxholme Grove, Leeds? https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/5158034

Broom Hall now

Not exactly body snatchers Ponytail! But there were some strange goings-on in Norton Churchyard according to this Sheffied Independent article from 1860.

Welcome Samuel Gillatt, son of George (scissor forger) and Caroline, was born on 27th August 1867. His main career was as a file cutter, but he may have started catching rats to be worried by dogs. By 1901 Welcome and his wife Ada were at 165 Woodside Lane with 5 children, one of whom was Welcome junior aged 4. His first newspaper advert appears to be in the Mexborough & Swinton Times of 3rd December 1897: WELCOME GILLAT. Ratcatcher, open for engagements. Dealer in Ferrets. Ferrets lent on hire, ratting or rabitting. :- 25 Court, 2 house, Woodside Lane, Sheffield. In December 1901 as well as his ratcatching services, he advertised "Ship rats for sale" - an unusual Christmas present, or for worrying by dogs? In February 1919 Welcome was appointed "Official Ratcatcher to the City". This was the first time such an officer had been needed, but was due to the plague of rats which had grown during the war, mainly due to the increase in land under cultivation. Then as the winter weather arrived, they migrated to built up areas. Welcome had been catching rats for forty years, catching them alive with ferrets and a wire cage. Applications for his services had to be made through the Cleansing Department Superintendent. In March he caught 1,050 rats in four weeks, beating all previous records. Yorkshire County Council were granting 2d per rat killed to Sheffield City Council. In October 1919, Welcome had a great success in catching a wily old rat that frequented the Cathedral neighbourhood. This rat was fancied to be 'a grand old man' with a long grey beard and a splendid voice despite his years. Supposedly the rat danced on the Cathedral tombstones, and was a politician, addressing mass meetings of his tribe in Paradise Square each night. Welcome set out to 'bag him' and after a successful and exciting hunt declared "Yes, he's a beauty - he weighs just over a pound and will be one of the biggest we have in England". Welcome was so successful in his work that a bag of 40 rats a day was now considered a good one. In the "good old days" a bag of 375 in a day was possible. In August 1922 Welcome caught an outstanding specimen weighing 1 lb 5 oz at Mr Simmerson's house, 100 Nottingham Street. Mr Gillatt had netted the entrance to several holes when the rat was discovered in a fowlhouse. It jumped one of the nets and as it was making its escape Welcome grabbed it and captured it alive. He took it to the Telegraph offices to show it off, whereupon it attempted to snap at its captor. Welcome intended to have it stuffed, as "the finest specimen I have ever captured". He estimated that over his career he had killed tens of thousands in Sheffield alone, plus those in outlying districts. In 1927 he tamed and trained a fox, with the intention of using it to catch rats. In 1939, still the Corporation rat-catcher, he was living with Ada at Firshill Terrace. Welcome died in 1940. Welcome junior joined the Royal Navy in June 1915 as an armourer and was discharged in November 1921. He married Elsie McKay, also of Woodside Lane, in November 1919 and they had two girls, Edna and Joyce. Welcome junior died, a 33 year old bus conductor, at Lodge Moor Hospital in February 1930. Welcome senior's son Ernest, a fireman, married Frances Brayshaw in September 1927 and they named their son (born early in 1931) as Welcome. Welcome died in Sheffield in Oct/Nov/Dec 1996, and his wife Lilian Anita in 2018. Presumably this chap was the licensee on the photo of the unidentified licensed premises.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3489052,-1.4405904,

This photo shows children playing outside the Far Lees on Leighton Road.

I nominate the Bulls Head Inn, Monsal Dale. The modern building is very different. But the 1897 map has similarities. George Lowe was the landlord until his death after a long illness on Saturday afternoon, 1st August 1896 (maybe his wake was the reason for the photograph?) The sign does look like a bull's head to me. The inn was more popularly known as the Edgestone Head, and was a noted destination for trippers from Sheffield. Mr Lowe was good company and had a good many anecdotes and witty repartee. He was 52 and left a widow and six children, mostly grown up. He was buried at the family plot in Holmesfield. The licence was transferred to his widow, Mrs Alice Lowe - but in granting it, the Chairman of Bakewell Petty Sessions asked her to stop Sunday afternoon visitors from sitting under the veranda and jeering local church goers. (Note the veranda on the photograph). Alice died on Sunday afternoon 12th February 1899.

I attended the small nursery at the bottom of the school grounds on Craddock Road, roughly at the back of the large unit that now stands there, I would say I was only there less than a year in 1947, to this day I can still smell the stew we were served for dinner, it was brilliant. The nursery itself was an asbestos single storey building, being so young I can only remember certain things, in the summer an afternoon nap outside, the smells, the quietness of the area unlike the din of today. I will always remember what I can, even though my parents didn't have much they both worked all their lives aside my three sisters and brother, as a group they made sure any nastiness of the world didn't enter my life which was built on Irish family values. I'm sure many members of my advancing years also remember their childhood as I do nastiness took a back seat while the good rose above, after my time at the nursery I started my education at St Theresa's school in 1947, at this school I must have been deemed stupid and unwilling to learn by the staff, I can't remember ever being encouraged or helped even though by the time I was around seven I was an excellent reader and speller, I did learn around ten years ago that my sister, who attended the same school upset the head teacher, Mrs Camm, who operated a favourism regime, her dislike of my sister was then placed on my shoulders when Winnie left. Mrs Camm's regime would not be tolerated today, but there you go those were the times.

I quite agree Heartshome, I've come across a professional photographer who labelled the back of his photographs with the name of the Street he was standing in. Absolutely annoying to someone looking at a photograph of a street that isn't there any more. Another photograph labelled, Cambridge Street; yes, his feet were in Cambridge Street but his camera was pointing at the City Hall, Barkers Pool!

Lucy Allen (previously Lucy Hodder) worked at Painted Fabrics in their shop on West Street. She was the wife of Sheffield artist Harry Epworth Allen and it's possible they met through the charity since Allen had been badly wounded during WW1 and lost a leg.

Wharncliffe War Hospital

Jane Lark's : A Woman's role in a soldier's camp. https://janelark.blog/2015/06/21/a-womans-role-in-a-soldiers-camp-some-more-background-to-the-battle-of-waterloo-to-commemorate-the-bicentenary/

No that's the Sheffield Transports sports club at Norton Roundabout

Pond fed by the Bagley Dyke at the north end of the Northern General Hospital off Barnsley Road. 28th December 1978. u05439 Note: The pond does not appear on O.S Maps 1935 or before. Building works at Bagley Dyke Culvert, Longley Lane, Longley Estate, with Longley Park on the right. 20th September 1954.s14784 Bagley Brook in a rubbish blocked culvert under River Don Works that caused flooding in the Foundry. 1981. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;v02553&pos=2&action=zoom&id=44260 Copyright: British Steel Corporation #«ó Notes: A recent heavy rainstorm in the Sheffield region caused an awkward job for River Don Works Building Services Department. The blocked culvert under the works caused flooding in the Foundry where casting pits filled with water. Rubbish thrown into Bagley Brook had blocked the culvert. In order to prevent a repetition of the flooding, Sheffield Corporation were going to fit a grid to stop rubbish being swept into the culvert where the Brook goes underground. Copied from FFE News Thursday August 27th 1981.

Longley Lane Bridge over Bagley Dyke. Postmark 1909 The message on the reverse of postcard, it appears Jack is missing the walks in the area. The question is did he get to go "walkies" with Miss Jessie Lemon again? s07585

I only found out that my maternal great grandmother died in the Ecclesall Bierlow Union Workhouse when I started working on my family history. My grandfather was 21 when his mother died in 1904, grandfather lived with us until his death in 1966, neither he or my mother ever mentioned anything about great grandmothers death in the Workhouse. I guess the social stigma of the Workhouse lived on with my mother until her death in the 90s. Ecclesall Bierlow Workhouse https://www.workhouses.org.uk/EcclesallBierlow/

Stannington again, this trough is in Stannington Road. https://maps.nls.uk/view/100950059#zoom https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3943868,

https://maps.nls.uk/view/100950059#zoom Uppergate Road https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3927928,

Never take the "Wilf Banks’ maps" as fact, they are not 100% accurate

And don't forget the next in the series: Sheffield in the Eighteenth Century by R E Leader published 1901: Sheffield in the Eighteenth Century

The 1875 eition, available to view or download for free, Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/reminiscencesofo00leaduoft/mode/2up

The 1881 Census in enumerator walk order: Records Silver Street Head 57 Silver Street Head John Jackson, Broker 59 Silver Street Head uninhabited 1 Hawley Croft William Humphries, Grocer & Professor of Music 3 Hawley Croft Henry Blockley, Beer House Keeper (in June 1882 Henry Blockley of the Eagle Tavern, Hawley Croft, was prosecuted regarding prostitution. At the same hearing Richard Frazer Horsley of the Reindeer beerhouse, Hawley Croft was similarly charged. The police had stationed two observers where they could watch both premises.) 61 Silver Street Head Charles Naseby. Licensed Victualler (in July 1879 Naseby was landlord of the Union Inn, Silver Street Head was find 5s for permitting drunkenness) 63 Silver Street Head Israil Ginsberg, General Dealer 55 West Bar Green Joseph Edward Dyson, Chemist Records West Bar Green, Tenter Street 81 Tenter Street Thomas Goodwin Carr, Fishmonger 13 Hawley Lane Arthur Slater, Table Knife Cutler 11 Hawley Lane John Cumbalidge, Cutler 9 Hawley Lane Benjamin Taylor, Fish Hawker 7 Hawley Lane unoccupied 7 Hawley Lane back of Richard Powell, Boot Finisher 5 Hawley Lane Richard Fraser Horsley, Publican (Reindeer see above) 52 School Croft unoccupied 50 School Croft unoccupied 48 School Croft Emma Booth, Shopkeeper Records School Croft, Campo Lane, Hawley Croft, Tenter Street, Townhead Street, Sims Croft, St James Street, ends The 1891 Census in enumerator walk order: Note on 1891 Census "the numbers have been altered in most of the district" Records Hawley Croft 53 Hawley Croft John McGrath, Miner Coal 55 Hawley Croft Martin Kearns, Scavenger 1 Hawley Lane William A Humphries, Grocer and Provisions Dealer 3 Hawley Lane Mary Horan (24 occupants, probably a lodging house) 5 Hawley Lane James Sharpe, Beer House Keeper 1 court 1 house Hawley Lane Harry Armitage, Steel Forgeman 1 court 2 house Hawley Lane Albert Oates, Spring Knife Cutler 7 Hawley Lane Elizabeth Antcliffe, Charwoman 9 Hawley Lane Ellen Cunningham, Miners mother 11 house Hawley Lane John Clegg, Cutler 13 Hawley Lane Robert Raby, Cutler 61 Tenter Street James Cartledge, Provision Dealer Then records Tenter Street, School Croft, ends The 1901 Census in enumerator walk order: (presumably many residents and businesses have left ready for demolition, much property being acquired by the Corporation in 1897 in preparation for the Crofts Improvement Scheme) 59 Silver Street Head Walter Axon, Beef Butcher 59 Silver Street Head Moses Feinhols, Grocers Assistant 59 Silver Street Head John Jackson, Furniture Dealer 1 Hawley Lane Mary Horan, Provision Dealer 1 Hawley Lane (back of) John Horan, Mining Engineer 3 Hawley Lane Joe Adamson, Water Company Labourer 5 Hawley Lane Frederick Booth, Old Rein Deer, Public House Keeper 2 house, 3 court Hawley Lane Fred Barlow, Bricklayers Labourer 5 house, ? court Hawley Lane Henry E. Butler, Sculpter and Landscape Artist (oils) 9 Hawley Lane Emma Swinden House Cleaner (Char) 11 Hawley Lane John Hodgson, Hackle Setter 13 Hawley Lane Mary Morris, Oranges Hawker 34 Hawley Croft William Caudle, Painter and Glazier 36 & 38 Hawley Croft James Farrell's Lodging House (17 occupants) Then records Hawley Croft, Sims Croft and 1 final house on Church street In March 1875 part of a lot of freehold property around Silver Street Head being auctioned was " one SALE SHOP and PUBLIC-HOUSE, called the 'Eagle Tavern', numbered 1 and 3 Hawley Lane"

A few more from my walk today Sheffield to Rotherham late autumn sunshine 🌞

The Gate Posts look the same and the wall on right is also

Was this building onthejunction of Walkley Rd and Walkley Bank Rd, opposite The Florist pub??

This might be a possible sighting: Brunon Resner born 25th September 1919 in Gniew, Tczew, Poland. He was a Flight Lieutenant in the RAF, service number P-2326 / 783105, with 304 Squadron (his Polish rank was porucznik = lieutenant). 304 Squadron flew bombers (mostly Wellingtons), see Wikipedia for 304 Squadron details In June 1950 he was living at Courtfield Gardens in Earls Court and was arrested in Kensington High Street for obstructing shoppers by handing out cards and taking photographs. He was fined 10 shillings for that, and a further £1 for failing to notify the Aliens Registration Officer that he was working as a street photographer. Resner stated that he was practising to become a photographer. Enquiries showed that he had been working at a North Kensington firm of photographers since 24th May. He apologised for lying, but explained that he was only there part-time, and denied obstructing the pavement. He died at 37 Thompson Road, Sheffield in Jan/Feb/March 1980 and was buried on 9th January 1980 in the Roman Catholic section of City Road Cemetery (grave 1805, section LL)

The Millan Takeaway was at the top of Corporation Street. It was part of the block on the right in this picture.

There seems to be a bit of confusion in the use of "old" and "new", also a couple of typos with dates. The first chapel (now called old, new in the 1820's) according to the Independent, was opened for divine worship on Wednesday 14th January 1824. Though "opened its doors in November 1823" is probably also correct (define "opened its doors") A stone laying ceremony for the new church was held on Saturday 6th June 1936, with a procession from Hunstone Avenue led by the Salvation Army Citadel band. Thirty-two stones were laid by friends and representatives of the church. The following Saturday the Sunday School scholars held a brick laying ceremony. The new church was opened on 23rd September 1937. The Rev. Arnold C. Metcalf (superintendent minister) presided at the opening ceremony, and the opening sermon was preached by Dr. R. Bond (President of the Methodist Conference). The new church was planned to have a tower similar to the Methodist church at Holmhirst Road, Woodseats, and would accommodate 400 people, with facility to partition off the transepts for use as small rooms as required. During WW2 Sheffield City Libraries used the old chapel as a lending library branch, opening on Tuesdays and Saturdays. The building remained in use as a Sunday School, but by 1950 the accommodation was too small for the 300 pupils (it had a capacity of only 100) and a new Sunday School building was planned.

Hi Steve. Yes! you are right! On the old picture postcards, I have found a good few mistakes on the name given to places in our area. They put Forge Dam, Endcliffe on one. Another, had a dam in Endcliffe down as Whiteley Woods. A view taken 'FROM' Woodcliffe, looking over 'TO' Quiet Lane, said from Quiet Lane looking over to Woodcliffe. Plus more:-..... I think it is that in a lot of cases, the old photographers didn't really know the area, and what boundary was where. Also I have found, people made notes of the places they had been photographing, but somehow, put them on the wrong picture. Regards Heartshome

Not George, it was Charles Partington. He was in the 1st Royal Dragoons. Mr Partington had joined up whilst in his teens, a few months before hostilities broke out. He served throughout the Crimean campaign and wore medals for Inkerman, Sebastopol and Balaclava. The 1st Royal Dragoons were part of the Heavy Brigade, and after the charge, when the Regiment was ordered to cover the retreat of the Light Cavalry Brigade he was severely injured in the thigh. After 12 years service, ending as a lance-sergeant, he initially became a warder in a military prison. He moved to Sheffield around 1886 and in civilian life was a commercial traveller for Sales and Teather, timber merchants of Eyre street, serving them for 15 years. He was killed in their service, aged 65, in a trap accident on 13th March 1902. The horse had slipped on the setts opposite the Attercliffe Alahambra, panicked and Mr Partington was thrown from the vehicle. Charles was the secretary of the Crimean and Indian Mutiny Veterans Association which partly explains the size of the crowd present at his send off (a thousand people gathered at his house at Richmond Villas, 484 Ecclesall Road, and a further three thousand at the cemetery). He had been trying to obtain improved pensions for the most deserving of the veterans. Present at the funeral was Thomas Smith (82) who had attended the funeral of the Duke of Wellington in 1852. He left a widow, Emily and two adult children.

Gabriel Plisson was born in St Domingo, West Indies, on 12th May 1785. His father was Colonel Plisson, an officer of the French army who was a good friend of the Tascher family of the Empress Josephine. Her influence was used to set Gabriel up with a career in the army, commencing around 1798 as a cadet in a military college. He went on to serve in a number of campaigns, such as the battles of Jena, Eylau, Friedland and notably the retreat from Moscow. In the 1809 battle of Talavera between Wellington and Victor, he was in the reserve forces, but not actively engaged. In 1814 he was amongst the guards at Fountainbleau and saw Napoleon address them on his abdication. At Waterloo he was attached to the corps of Grouchy, which did not arrive in time to participate. In 1815 after the escape of Napoleon from Elba he unhesitatingly followed the Emperor and fought at Gembloux under Count Gerard against the Prussians. On 18th June at mid day, Gerard urged Marshall Grouchy to abandon the pursuit of the Prussians and head towards Waterloo. After the peace he still supported Napoleon, and left the army. On 10th March 1835 he married Selina Shearman (born Saltash in Cornwall) in Doncaster, and they settled in Sheffield. Gabriel taught the French language - in July of that year he advertised as being a "PROFESSOR OF THE FRENCH AND ITALIAN LANGUAGES, No.1, Brook-place, near St George's Church, Sheffield." He could "give the best Testimonials to his Character and Method of Teaching; and reference will be given to Professional Gentlemen, in Sheffield, of literary eminence". A year later he was the French Master at the Collegiate School, and by 1839 he was also teaching French evening classes at the Mechanics Institute. In May 1841 he announced that following enquiries for German lessons, he had subcontracted to M. Albert Nelkenstranck of Heidelberg, lessons either privately or in M.Plisson's premises at 207 Bath Buildings. In April 1843 he announced Italian lessons to be be given by Signor De San Martino, a professor of Turin University. By August he had arranged for Mr William Von Fochlender, Professor of German, to relocate from Doncaster to Sheffield. Spanish lessons and translation of documents in all taught languages were also offered. By May 1844 San Martino (a native of Sardinia) had been sacked from his £100 a year job by M.Plisson. San Martino had been calling at Sheffield shops to write letters to Ministers and "distinguished personages" and trying to cadge the penny for postage. He obtained an interview with the Mayor at his house, for a job, and hired a cab to get there. On reaching the Darnall toll-bar, the driver asked San Martino to pay, but found that he had set out with empty pockets. After failing to persuade the cab-driver to pay, he alighted and ran across the fields hotly pursued. He took refuge in Mr Gaunt's coach house, and took up a pair of shears, aiming a blow at the party assisting the cabman in his capture. He was transported to the police office, where as luck would have it, the Mayor was expected shortly. After hearing all the facts, the Mayor committed him to the Asylum at the Workhouse. The cabman withdrew, disappointed that he had taken the Sardinian for a free excursion. During 1848 M.Plisson and Mr Fochlender were conducting lessons at the Athenaeum, and although the tuition rates were low, so was the take up. At the end of 1849 M.Plisson had fourteen pupils at the Church of England Instruction Society. In 1853 he was dismissed from his post at the Collegiate School by the new principal - he had been there for 16 years. He therefore advertised private lessons, willing to travel as long as there was a railway connection. The forthcoming "Exhibition of 1855" prompted him to offer a course of forty French lessons for Gentlemen on Monday and Thursday evenings, to be held at the Milk street Academy, where he now held a full time day job, but by July he was French Master at the Grammar School. November saw him as French and German master at Ulley College, near Rotherham. He was back at Milk street in mid 1856. In 1858 as well as lessons at his residence, Bath Buildings, he was travelling to Doncaster, Rotherham and Worksop. In May 1858 he thanked his clientele for their 24 years of patronage and introduced his successor M. Jean Du Beau of 225 Gell street Terrace. M. Plisson's library of foreign books was sold during the year. Jean Du Beau died during 1858 and his wife continued with French and music lessons. The Plissons spent three years in France, returning in July 1861, and again offering language lessons from their new residence at Elm House, St. George's Square, though M.Plisson wanted a post as a Foreign Correspondent in a Merchant's Office to supplement to his income, along with translation of letters. In April 1863 he had a post at Rotherham Grammar School. By July 1868 he was giving lessons from his new residence at 34 Clarence street. In 1871 Gabriel Plisson and his wife Selina were lodging at 34 Clarence street. Gabriel died aged 90 on 29th March 1875. His obituary stated that "M.Plisson will be long remembered as a fine type of the French gentleman, and as preserving to the last, a vivacity, gaiety and cheerfulness, rather indicative of youth, than of the advanced age to which he had attained. His upright figure was long most familiar to our streets, and even Time had a long struggle before he could make that military gait abate one jot of its erect carriage." Selina died on 2nd February 1882 leaving £217 18s 2d.

Michael O'Brien died on Saturday 4th September 1880, aged 53, a labourer of 129 Portland street. In February 1879 he had been an in-patient at the Infirmary for eight weeks with a diseased blood vessel, but discharged himself because he was tired of it, not because he was cured. Two house-surgeons recommended an operation and that he should stay in or he would surely die. He had felt much better and able to work as a labourer in a foundry since he left the Infirmary, but on Tuesday 31st August he fell ill and went to see Mr Collier, surgeon. Collier thought that he had a liver complaint. By the next Friday and Saturday he was much worse and went to see Collier again. On the Saturday evening he went out to a public house to buy some whisky to put in his gruel. Five minutes later his wife Mary heard that he had fainted, and shortly afterwards that he was dead. Collier told the Coroner that Mr O'Brien had died of an aneurism and had no doubt it was due to natural causes.

Later became Sheffield Council City Engineers department, I started my first job there in October 1973. I stayed there until 1979 whne I moved to SYCC in Barnsley.

No images of portraits on Picture Sheffield relating to the De Wickerleys or Fitz Turgis, but for others who are interested in a bit of genealogy from the USA, their connection to St. Albans, Wickersley, Rotherham and Roche Abbey. Notes for John Wickersly Research Notes: https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/pn/p27032.htm Their connection to St. Albans, Wickersley & Roche Abbey. https://www.saintalbanswickersley.org.uk/history/origins-and-early-ministers/ And Roche Abbey. https://www.historynaked.com/roche-abbey/ Broom Hall https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Broom_Hall

FAIRIES/FAERIES/GOBLINS/GNOMES etc:- As children, we all knew books of Fairy Stories, watched Films of them, saw them on TV, probably had Pictures of them, and maybe Dressed -up as them. But! have you ever thought how far back the Fairy Folk go? Apparently as far back as humans were able to relate the stories. The information you can find from the hundreds of years of written accounts is quite fascinating. Sheffield has had a few reported, one place of which is the well known 'DEAD MANS LANE', said to have been home to the Fairies in the 19th century, but mostly known for Evil sightings. A most interesting read is by the PAGAN PATHWAYS SHEFFIELD, the title on their report is 'Faeries Yesterday and Today'. I looked at a map of the 'most' reported sighting of Fairies, York and the Yorkshire Moors comes top. Regards Heartshome

Looks very similar to the fountain that once stood in Firth Park? Posted by HughW: February 2, 2018 "I'm not sure if this is the same as the one in the photo on page 1 of this thread (and in many more at Picture Sheffield). The description is hard to reconcile with what can be seen of it there. 13 June 1896 Sheffield Daily Telegraph"

The MILLERS ARMS property, was sold to Sheffield Corporation in 1948.

Mild diversion on the subject of Hawley Lane pubs- Sheffield Daily Telegraph - Thursday 05 November 1896

According to Sheffield Public Houses by Michael Liversedge. Millers Arms was 65-67 Carlisle Street active 1860-1940. 1939 William Beaumont was the last recorded Licensee of the Millers Arms. Looking through the List of Civilians who died in WWII no one is recorded for Carlisle Street, they all must have been safe in their air raid shelters.

The cCutlers Arms photo seems to show a large group of the Order of Buffalos!

Bowshaw Inn, Dronfield: https://www.sheffieldpub.co.uk/pubs/dronfield/bowshaw-inn

The keepers name over the door, is Welcome Gillatt

There were also the 150 and 151 ,if my memory serves me correctly ,which went alternatively up/down Sicey Avenue or Bellhouse Road ,then around Shiregreen Estate and finally off to Bridge Street in Town.

Absolutely brilliant Tozzin and for your next trick can you name the children. 😂 Only joking. Thanks SteveHB for providing the update. We're certainly keeping Mark at Picture Sheffield busy with the Unidentified solving.

The Heritage Statement with the recent planning application contains a history of the property, and plans and photos-

I have something of a connection with the now demolished and built over Brincliffe Oaks pub, in that my marriage reception was held there in 1982, and it had previously been an infrequent watering hole for me. I had a passing interest in where the name came from, as there were no oaks in the vicinity. This story is a little reminiscent of recent events concerning the removal of trees in Sheffield. Sheffield Archives have a file on the Literary and Philosophical Society (founded in 1822 by James Montgomery) which contains an unsigned grey wash drawing of the two Brincliffe oak trees dated 1790. In 1855 (a year after Montgomery's death) John Holland and James Everett published (in 7 volumes) "The Memoirs of the Life and Writings of James Montgomery". Volume 3 included a description of Montgomery's visit to the oaks, together with an illustrative engraving. The text stated that "We fear, however, their days are numbered ; the ground on which they stand has been sold to a cheap building company, who have already reduced them to the desolate aspect of 'naked trunks amidst a fresh-dug plot' preliminary, doubtless, to their removal from the scene which they have occupied and adorned for five hundred years". The alternative name for the trees became "The Montgomery Oaks" though this was confusing as Montgomery planted an oak in front of the General Infirmary in 1851. In March 1862, there were two old trees near Brincliffe Edge " striking for their size antiquity and picturesque effect", that became the subject of preservationists, who lamented that they were to be felled following the acquisition of the land by a Building Society. The trees apparently were traditionally associated with the Machon family during the civil war siege of Sheffield. The Montgomery Land Society offered to sell the land with the trees on at cost price to anyone who wanted to save them. They denied the claim that the late owner of the land, George Wostenholm had sold it subject to the stipulation that the trees should remain standing. In June 1862 John Holland read a paper at the Literary and Philosophical Society on "Trees in the Neighbourhood of Sheffield" - mentioning the Brincliffe oaks as still existing, and illustrating the talk with photographs of the oaks taken by Theophilus Smith. In his 1864 book "Wharncliffe, Wortley, and the Valley of the Don. Photographically Illustrated by Theophilus Smith" was a photo entitled "Ancient Oak near the Lodge" - judge for yourself whether it's one of the oaks 9 years later on. Note that Theophilus was a local resident, living at Brincliffe Edge Bank aged 22 in 1861, Cherry Tree Road in 1871 and Oakdale Road in 1876. In 1885 "a gentleman whose ancestors are stated to have owned all the land in the neighbourhood has surrounded one of the old oaks with a substantial wall to protect it from marauding hands" Brincliffe Oaks Hotel is first recorded in Sheffield trade directories in the late 1860s with Benjamin Beeley (c. 1799 - 1873) as proprietor (although an ale house is said to have existed on the site since the 1600s). Benjamin Beeley was one of the first purchasers of lots from the Nether Edge Building Society - on 15th October 1863 he bought 6 lots totalling 4225 square yards for £420, these lots later merged with the Montgomery Society. The rules of the Montgomery society stipulated that weekly meetings should be held at the house of Benjamin Beeley, the Washington Arms, Washington Road, and the society came to an end at a meeting held at the Brincliffe Oaks Hotel on November 22nd, 1883. The two trees were still standing in 1874 as evidenced in J.H.Stainton's "The Making of Sheffield" : "Vandals were abroad even in those days. I find one letter from the society's secretary, 8th December, 1874, to Mr. Wostenholm, which runs as follows: "The [Montgomery] Committee propose to cut down the two old oak trees in Oakdale Road and sell them, as the lots will not sell whilst they are there. They give you first offer, if you would like to purchase for 30/- each, for them. Any damage in removal to make good." The secretary's English was a trifle obscure, but his meaning was sufficiently clear, and it is pleasant to find that the reply was a curt refusal to have anything to do with the proposal" In May 1874 John Holland had published articles in the Daily Telegraph, seemingly a reprise on his lecture of 10 years earlier. He referred to the two oaks trees as still standing, but due to their senility the timber would be worthless. The newspapers carried a report in May 1876 that the two trees were due to be auctioned within the next week, the writer hoping that the trees might be spared by a sympathetic purchaser. Probably the auction mentioned was the one that included the public house, as well as adjacent building land, to be held on the 18th July. It was put up at £5,000 but there were no bids and it was withdrawn. In October 200 friends gathered for a farewell feast at the Brincliffe Oaks to mark the retirement of Samuel Beeley. Pawson and Brailsford featured the oaks as a visitor attraction, in their Illustrated Guilde to Sheffield of 1879 (and subsequent ones): In 1907 the Telegraph had an article on the oaks, and included two etchings by W.Topham made in 1880. The article stated that until recently the pair of trees had stood one each side of Oakdale Road In 1932 Thomas R Ellin an ex-Brincliffe resident responded to a picture of one of the oaks in the Telegraph asking for information. He stated that the trees had been in existence thirty years since "on a piece of bare land on the right-hand side at the bottom of Oakdale Road, next to the house of the late Mr William Pool, the artist, and opposite to the Brincliffe Oaks Hotel, a very old building which doubtless took its name from these trees, although locally in those days it was more familiarly known as 'Beeley's" from the name of the licensee of that period." A family tradition related that Mr Ellin's great-grandfather, as a boy, pre-1800, climbed one of the trees and found an owl's nest in it. Mr Ellin possessed two engravings, one of each tree, made by John.F.Parkin of Messrs Parkin and Bacon, who produced them for a conversazione of the Literary and Philosphical Society at the Cutlers' Hall on 25th February 1886. Mr Parkin at that time lived at the top of Machon Bank. Ada Florence Young, a drawing teacher, artist and photographer of 22 Adelaide Road, Brincliffe, made a sketch of the trees The final tree, opposite the pub, was cut down by Harry Summerlin Hinde, a nurseryman and florist of Byron Road on Thursday 16th March 1922 due to the unsafe state of the trunk, with children able to climb up the hollow centre. He made a paper knife from some of the sounder wood. On his 1921 census return he stated that he was a Discharged Soldier, Jobbing & Dealing or any odd job I am able to do in woodwork. In 1950 that plot was still not built on. It is now occupied by number 2 Oakdale Road. There are a surprising number of images of the trees on the picturesheffield site, mainly under the Montgomery name, see here: picturesheffield photos

Hi Steve. Yes! Originally they were along side the main path not far from the entrance. The Bowling Green + another one had been built up the hill by 1914, the Tennis Courts moved later. Note the people watching from Oakbrook Road in the distance. Looks like everyone is in their Sunday best! On your first photo of the Whiteley Wood Entrance, you can just make out the Tennis Courts on the far right. Regards Heartshome

If anybody is interested we have found the video and will be running parts of it when M&W exhibition starts in acouple of weeks. Also located the film made inside the company during the 1960s, now trying to get funding to digitise the film.