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    I have a few photos of Sheffield in the 1960s. This is one of my favourites.
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    The station remained reasonably intact, post closure for many years, and if I remember rightly, was temporarily reopened late in 1976, in order to facilitate the electrification of the points and signalling systems at Sheffield Midland Station, following which, it closed once again. However, shortly after the electrification scheme was completed, Sheffield Midland Station was flooded out, when the River Porter breached its banks, and the new points and signals were rendered useless. So, Victoria Station reopened again, as a temporary solution, and remained in use until such time that the wiring had been dried out. That was early January 1977. The attached photograph, taken by me on a snowy day on 06/01/1977, shows a Sheffield Victoria bound D.M.U. at Woodhouse Station. I caught this train, which was on the Lincoln to Sheffield service in order to arrive at Sheffield Victoria.
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    I'd just love to see the Estate Agents blurb, if ever they had tried to market that property...... "With convenient access to road and rail transport links, ideally placed for the M1 motorway, this charming period property benefits from close ties with the areas industrial heritage...."
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    But we weren't just discussing a railway breakdown were we? I suggest that all forms of transport have required legislation and have only become safer with more knowledge and better technology...and that railways are no different....hence the details of shipping casualties. You seemed to suggest that early railways were lacking in safety because of a the profit motive, and this may well have been true in the very early days ( although stats show otherwise) but at the time of this crash that was far from the truth...as my own Grandfather, who drove for the GCR ,would have attested. He always maintained railways were the safest mode of travel and drivers regularly had physical examinations to ensure their fitness to drive as well as tests...all of which was overseen by HM Inspector of Railways. Not all technical problems with commercial aviation result in crashes either or, as in the amazing case of an Air Transat flight , running out of fuel because of human error, midway across the Atlantic, did! Back to the Woodhouse crash I think the loco was one of Parker's class 2 ,of which 24 were constructed, and the immigrant train was an especially interesting part of social history .Eastern Europeans( many being Jews escaping pogroms) emigrating to the USA, having crossed western Europe, caught railway steamers to the Humber ports and thence trains to take them across to Liverpool and onward to America.
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    I take your point but feel you are rather exaggerating, bearing in mind the rapid growth of railways in the UK ( and throughout the world) You state that it took "a great deal of legislation to get the Railway Companies to introduce safety measures" . Yet, the first Act, as I have already stated, was in 1840 and an Inspectorate established in the same year... According to records some 4 serious accidents ,involving loss of life or serious maiming ,occurred in the UK in the ten year period following the death of Huskisson . Accidents, mainly involving human error or the failure of components,occurred throughout the world and lessons were learned ( how I hate that phrase) You mention safety at sea but, surely, the nearest parallel is civil aviation which in 100 years has grown from the dangerous pastime of "idiots" to the safest mode of travel. Was this entirely by dint of legislation or was it by learning from mistakes; from improving materials and research? I think the CAA would say it was all as, indeed, is the case with railways. In my time in the steel industry I can remember when drinking beer at work was especially encouraged for those doing hot manual work such as furnaceman and , indeed,Brown Bayley Steels had a pub entrance built within its walls ...which had permission to open outside the then licensing hours In the EU, as late as the 1980's, German steel manufacturers, Zollern Stahl und Metal, had beer dispensers in their factories selling 330ml bottles for a few pfennigs. How times change...but we are a history forum and instead of holding our hands up in shock horror we should try and understand...Without understanding we learn little.
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    Not seen this scene before and not seen a street lamp with a street name written upon it. Was that a regular thing that happened?
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    Gray, George (, Victualler Norfolk Hotel). Address: Handsworth, in 1871. Recorded in: Whites Sheffield & District Directory - 1871. Mary Elizabeth Gray 1901 George's second wife 1911 George Wilby-vict Norfolk Hotel to 1922-dies Near to Finchwell and The Hall
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    Yes and no...it closed as an ice skating rink I think when the new fancy one opened up at Don Valley. It's now this...roller skating... http://www.skatecentral.co.uk/
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    The simple answer is...fields. Mosborough proper has a 1930's council estate called Westfield and according to am 1881 map there was a Westfield farm...The farm house still exists.
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    I must admit that I have occasionally wondered, from time to time, when looking at old photographs of Moorhead, as to what happened to this monument. A little research on the web, provided this quite comprehensive, but rather scandalous story from The Victoria Society's website, which I reproduce in full (I am sure that they won't mind, given this site's own interest in all matters historical and Sheffield related. THE CRIMEAN WAR MEMORIAL We were slightly surprised to learn that Sheffield’s Crimean War Monument was to feature last year as one of the Victorian Society’s list of ten most endangered buildings across the country. The surprise was not that it merited inclusion in the list, but because this had not been one of your Committee’s nominations this year. Rather, the nomination came from a member of the public, and we’re very pleased they were interested enough to do this. The Monument’s history can be briefly told. It was erected by public subscription to commemorate ‘the natives of Sheffield’ who died in the Crimean War (1853-6). Fundraising began in 1857 and the monument was in place by 1861; Florence Nightingale (who had family connections with Sheffield) declined to unveil it but sent a donation. The designer was the architect George Goldie, a partner in Matthew Hadfield’s practice here. The Monument dignified Moorhead for almost a century until, around 1960, it was dismantled; like almost every statue in the city centre it fell foul of the Council’s traffic engineers. It was broken up, with the statue of Victory from the top, and the base, re-erected in the Botanical Gardens. The column which had joined them was half-buried, in sections, in a public open space in Addy Street, Upperthorpe, where they remain, complete with a plaque recording the event. What happened to the elaborate capital that graced the column, who knows? Then in 2004 the Monument had to be removed; it was a condition of the grant which restored the Botanical Gardens that they were restored to their original, 1830s, appearance. So the Monument was taken in to the Council’s store, where it remains, a decade on. They assure us that it is in good condition. We hope so. This is a Grade 2 listed structure paid for by the public and it should be available for them to view and appreciate. The Council, understandably, is concerned about the cost of moving the Monument back into view. Then there is the question where it might go. This is going to take time, but we will do our best to see it through. Sheffield has lost too much of its public art from the city centre, and it’s time to get it back. Following the inclusion of the Memorial in the Society’s 2104 list of the most endangered Victorian and Edwardian buildings in the country, the City Council offered a meeting, and this finally took place in March. We have established that when it left the Botanical Gardens the Memorial went to specialists for conservation and was subsequently returned, wrapped in plastic and on 11 palettes, to a Council store. There it remains, not even the plastic sheeting having been removed (though it seems that Victory’s sword has somehow come adrift and been shelved separately). No-one could tell us whether the capital is in the store but we suspect not, as it did not end up in the Gardens in 1960, nor is it with the remains of the pillar in Addy Street, and it has not been seen since. The Council’s officers confirmed that the original plans for the ill-fated Sevenstone scheme – the new retail quarter – assumed that a home back in the city centre would be found for the Memorial but we were very concerned to be told that the idea had ‘gone off beyond the margins’ of Council thinking and planning for the successor scheme, which is due to go out to tender later this year. And we saw no sign of serious thinking about ways of raising funding for its restoration, let alone identifying potential sites for its re-erection. It is clearly seen as at most a ‘nice to have’ which is getting no priority at all within the Council. We appreciate the huge financial and staffing pressures on the Council, but it makes little sense to neglect the possibility of attracting grant funding into the city for a worthwhile project like this. After the meeting the Chair of VS, Hilary Grainger, wrote to the Council Leader, Cllr Julie Dore, asking her to commit the Council to restoration within a reasonable timeframe, and setting out the good reasons for doing this (did you know our memorial was one of the very first to commemorate ordinary soldiers who fought for their country, rather than generals and admirals?). We look forward to her reply and hope it will be a positive one, not least as the Council has ignored the terms of the planning permission it granted itself for the Memorial’s removal, and that breach has gone on for long enough. UPDATE July 2015: CRIMEAN WAR MEMORIAL: DEVELOPMENTS – OR RATHER, NOT. In our last newsletter we reported at length on the Society’s attempts to get the City Council to take seriously its responsibilities for the Crimean War Memorial, in storage for over ten years now and thus leaving the Council in long-term breach of its own planning conditions. After the meeting between Chris Costelloe, VS Director, and me and Council officials, the Society’s Chairman Prof Hilary Grainger wrote on 3 March to the leader of the Council, Cllr Julie Dore, to set out the reasons for reinstating the Memorial, preferably in the city centre, and offering VS help in achieving this. Three months later our Chairman has not had the courtesy of a reply, and Chris Costelloe has reminded Julie Dore’s office that a response is outstanding. In the meantime the Council has published its proposals for what it is now calling the Sheffield Retail Quarter. It is clear that the issue of reinstatement has not been considered in these proposals (though it was said to have featured in the defunct Hammersons’ scheme). A mere 4 weeks were allowed for comment on this MASSIVE retail development. The Council will however find in the comments received a number of demands that it puts the Memorial back where it belongs. UPDATE OCTOBER 2015 THE SAGA DRAGS ON…. We reported last time on the delay in getting a response from Sheffield Council to proposals, and offers of help, from our Chairman Hilary Grainger. Just afterwards a letter arrived from Julie Dore, Council Leader. After rejecting any suggestion the Memorial might go into Barker’s Pool (because there is a civic war memorial there already and its policy to see that as commemorating all wars) or the top of Fargate (because it would get in the way of the roundabouts – and the Council’s income from them) it had nothing positive to suggest other than a vague suggestion that there might be space on the old Castle Markets site once the demolition is complete and the archaeology work on the castle remains has finished and maybe that ‘could be considered’. Very much a kick into the long grass, since there is no date for the excavation yet (no budget yet secured), no-one knows what will be found and no-one, thus, knows what sort of space might be available. Since then the Sheffield Star has carried a fair amount of correspondence, on both sides of the argument. There is certainly interest in the city on what happens, and we’ll keep up the pressure. This really ought to be an issue for the Retail Quarter plans, and the public art budget included in them. We have decent public art that just needs a place in the sun rather than a dark corner of the Council’s store. The Society is understandably not happy, and has launched an on-line petition on Change.org to press for city centre relocation in time for the 160th anniversary, in 2017, of the end of the Crimean War. Moreover, the recently- released plans for the Sheffield Retail Quarter call for money to be spent on new public art for this area. Why not spend some of the cash on restoring the public art we already have to where it belongs? If you have internet computer access please add your name to the online petition. Just go to Change.org and search for ‘Sheffield Council’. Think that we should all sign this petition. Does anyone know anything more current regarding this?
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    The Norfolk Hotel building is still there, it is now the Highgate Day Nursery. I had always thought that the building, shown above, had bay windows added to give the current building but looking at the photos there is not enough room for the upper floor windows of the current building, so it must have been a rebuild. Yhe wall is still there but unfortunately the tree has gone. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Highgate+Day+Nursery/@53.3748172,-1.3921616,3a,75y,25.72h,92.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHiiHQEj8Wgqypz9kfdupbg!2e0!3e11!7i13312!8i6656!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x48799d6491f96a51:0x9e0b5f4dbfb7c0e1!2sFinchwell+Rd,+Sheffield+S13+9AR!3b1!8m2!3d53.3763093!4d-1.3882821!3m4!1s0x0:0xc8a9e91c9da6a5f9!8m2!3d53.3749997!4d-1.3921114
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    There was a Norfolk Hotel at the junction of Handsworth Road and Finchwell street (which led down to Handsworth colliery) but it was a more substantial building with two big bay windows. If you search Picture Sheffield for trams, Handsworth you will find it, their reference number s16477. I think this was a rebuild on the site of your pictures because the wall and tree at the right seem to be the same. For a long time the Handsworth tram terminus was here.
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    Has anyone got a map showing the first council houses in Sheffield on, I think, Button Lane close to what is now Charter Row ? Cheers.
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    Is that Barry Chuckle in the middle? ?
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    My overarching memory of the old rag and tag is, as a short trousered, snotty nosed boy in the late 1940's/early 50's, being "dragged" around the place every Saturday afternoon by Mum after a tram ride.. She.intent on finding a "bargain"...me intent on getting home for the football results. I remember the old lady and her scales, the livestock market and the pot seller who , seemingly, held a dinner service in his hands whilst rattling them. Happy memories? Not really...just a time of relative poverty ( by today's standards) and accepting second or third best all the time...Perhaps it was my being "dragged" that colours my memories.
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    Presume you mean the coal drops to the gas works, they certainly did have a coking plant. https://britainfromabove.org.uk/en/image/EPW015486
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    Let's see if we can solve this puzzler. Here's a 1911 photo of Taylor Cabinet Maker in what is believed to be Sheffield City Centre. Above the door it clearly says 'Moorhead' but there are no records of this building/business existing at Moorhead so what gives? Let's get the Sheffield History detectives on the case and see what we can find out...
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    The Messerschmidt 110 seems to have been well covered but the Heinkel has quietly disappeared. Most certainly both types were not either at the same place or at the same time. The Blitz had been and gone and the area round Bramall Lane. Denby St. Sheldon St and Boston St had been cleared and levelled. We learned that a touring display of a Heinkel bomber was to be set up there. As usual it was a money-raising exercise for one or other of the wartime funds. As I recall at this range it too was roped off and cost 6d (2.1/2p) to get close. Look but don't touch and keep out. I expected a wreck but it was in fairly good order. Sort of good belly landing. For another 6d. I bought the official photograph which was most of the week's pocket money gone. Certainly there wasn't enough for the third method, the National Saving stamps. Two members have done a marvellous job of analysing the photo and the plane.Rather them than me. with the reservation that I doubt If it was taken in Sheffield. I suspect it to be the official photograph on sale at every site as the surroundings don't look right. The canopy l don't remember but I could be wrong. I think the plane itself is right. Pity l didn't make notes at the time but l didn't expect to tell the tale seventy odd years on. . One thing that sticks in my mind was an information board with the plane details. For weeks l regaled everybody with the story of seeing a Heinkel He 111 M K V A. Years after it dawned and it became a Mark 5A. The good dr_gn says type H1. I take his word. It was one of the usual wartime morale boosters, more so in this case because we had not so long before heard but not seen what was bombing us. I went out of curiosity. No thought of animosity to it or the crew who from the state it was in should have survived. It was just one more that wouldn't bother us again. I have since wondered why that site was chosen. It was big enough, easy access, flat and free but definitely off the beaten track, unlike Barkers Pool. Anyway, been there, seen it, done it so cycle back to Hunters Bar in time for tea and hope we wouldn't hear the sirens that night.
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    If the shop was indeed at Moorhead, then my first thoughts are that it might have been one of the corner end shops on the rows of shops that used to make up Button Lane / Furnival Street, but I can't find a likely match on the Picture Sheffield site.
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    It is actually inside the Crucible nowadays, on the wall. I'm surprised the staff in the theatre were unaware! The small meeting room upstairs, in the cube above the entranceway (where the colourful signage is) is called the Adelphi Room. As you walk in the main Crucible Theatre doors, turn to the right and follow the wall around to find the stairs to the Adelphi room. The plaque is around there (unless it has been moved in the last couple of years). It is definitely in there as recently as 4 September this year as a friend took this photo when making a pilgrimage around notable locations in Sheffield Wednesday's history for the 150th anniversary:
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    The stream and park is behind the building on the left,you are correct about a similar building on the right,i spent my last year in that building with miss metcalf as my teacher.
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    Ok boginspro I was not 100% sure, but I bumped into Dodgers grandson in the Moor market today, so the info comes straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak.
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    This is miss metcalf my teacher in my last year at gleadless in 1958.
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    There used to be one operating in Woodhouse in the early 1960's, and although I do remember the balloons, I don't know as to what his name was, or as to where he came from. He did have a horse and cart. There was once a glue factory in Woodhouse Mill, and I think that this survived well into the 1970's, based on Soap House Lane, which is probably where the name originated from. The lorries that delivered there were dark blue painted box vans, unrefrigerated, and not unsurprisingly, they always stank dreadfully, especially in hot weather.
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    Unknown building here. Not sure if it's being built or torn down but either way it's really interesting looking Anyone know what it is and where it is/was?
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    This is one incredible photo! It shows The Old Cottage at Attercliffe on the site of what would now be the dual carriageway outside Attercliffe School. It's so charismatic and interesting. One of the best old Sheffield photos I've ever seen
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    Great photo of The Moor in 1966 including British Home Stores, Neales, Pauldens, and other shops Interesting that there's currently a theory that pedestrianisation of places like this and Fargate is actually detrimental to a thriving city centre and there are serious calls for a return to traffic in cities rather than the pedestrianised thoroughfares we have today
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    I am hoping that one of our experts can assist me in identifying the location of the attached image. The year, if it helps, is 1956. The sign behind the tram-car, denoted by an arrow, states Regent, so obviously a petrol filling station, but what a location?, tightly sandwiched between so many residential properties. To be honest, the location should not have proven, at least to me, to be so difficult to identify. After all, there can't have been that many locations where a tram bearing a Vulcan Road destination blind could have been climbing a bank in order to get there. Mansfield Road, from Intake maybe, but it doesn't seem to be; Duke Street, or City Road, going the long way around by Elm Tree, possibly, but again, it doesn't seem to be, coming back up from Walkley perhaps, but seems unlikely. So, if anyone can identify the location, I would be very grateful.
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    Known to anybody on the buses as Dodgers, inspectors came through the back door , we went out through the front or vis versa. I remember that conductor with the Ultimate box. I think the Dodgers name may have come from a former landlord.
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    I don't think they started to build the Hall in the midst of the First World War. My understanding is that a Hall was proposed as a memorial to the War dead as early as 1916 but owing to a lack of finance not started until 1929 and then as part of a job creation scheme at the time of the Great Depression. ...At its height Sheffield's unemployment of 23.1% was running at a higher rate than in Glasgow, Liverpool or even Newcastle. Over 50% of the city's steelworkers found themselves out of work and at the tender "mercy" of the dreaded "Means Test"....something which Rotherham Council refused to do...only to find themselves feeling the wrath of Central Government.
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    I know Brunswick Road. Pitsmoor, (AKA localy "Champs Hill") was once called "Tom Cross Lane", But who was Tom Cross, and when / why was the name changed to Brunswick Road.? Does any one know ?
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    Just ordered these books from HERE at Amazon where they are currently on offer. Can't get enough of these kind of Sheffield books where you get to see what life was like back in the day. I am running out of storage space now for all the Sheffield related books, vinyls, pictures that I've got in my collection but not seen these two before so delighted they're on their way to me Amazon have some fantastic stuff about Sheffield currently. Take a look HERE
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    Indeed, my dad says that too - he remembers it operating, very well. The line which still survives through the site, is the old goods avoiding line. Which is used for the Stocksbridge Steel Works trains, for the moment at least.
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    Victoria opened in 1851 as part of an extension of the Sheffield, Ashton-under-Lyne & Manchester Railway (which previously terminated at Bridgehouses station), and eventually closed early in 1970. I believe trains serving the route to Penistone continued to pass through Victoria (without stopping) till some time in the 1980s however, reversing to go down the ramp to Midland station - a hassle which was eventually cancelled out by the reopening of the line from Barnsley to Penistone as exists today.
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    Midland Station approach c1930. Courtesy Chas. C Hall.
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    We used to call in sometimes when it was on a pub crawl route. This would be in the early seventies, very basic inside with nothing to shout about. Certainly not the glamour pub but a working mans hangout. I remember being a patient in the Royal hospital opposite in 1977 and the ward overlooked the pub. I used to look out and think, I wonder if I could sneak out and have a quick pint. I bet it had been done before.
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    Here is the entry for Turtons from Leader's History of the Corporation of Cutlers. The Local Studies library has both volumes, they are huge books about 2 foot by 3 foot. Using the key the full entry for John Turton is: Turton John, son of John, Sheffield Park, shoemaker; to Woollen William Sheffield Park, cutler; 7 years from 1776, Freedom taken 1791 So he did complete his apprenticeship, but did not take his Freedom until 9 years after he had come out of his apprenticeship. This was not unusual, especially at the end of the eighteenth century when "the Act of 1791 brought in large numbers who, not having cared to claim the privilege of Freedom during the disorganisation of the Company's affairs, availed themselves of their long dormant privilege under the new regime". The 1791 Act repealed much of the original 1624 Act which required a 7 year apprenticeship and a limited number of apprentices per master. The new act allowed the sale of Freedoms to outsiders for £20 plus fees. The result was a huge increase - in 1791-2 1,346 freemen were admitted and 482 apprenticeships were admitted, and this level continued for many years, the cutlery trade then being open to almost anyone who wished. Further deregulation was implemented with the 1814 Act, which put the Company into the doldrums, as it then seemed to serve no real purpose.
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    There's one that's been re-located into the City Road Cemetery, it's just up the steps at the main entrance and this one has the coat of arms fully painted in colour. It's been there for years.
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    Seen in same location on Google, October 2016. https://goo.gl/maps/yyfm6xXkQGS2
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    The box stood on East Parade when I took this photo back in 2011.
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    I get a different view of the pages on different browsers. On Pale Moon which I am using now I have the three buttons top right and in the inbox just seem to have an EMPTY option. When I click the empty button and then the little envelope in the menu top right it says no messages to display, but when I go to the inbox they are still there faded but still acting as a link.
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    Hi Voldy glad you enjoyed the posts, it is my favourite subject. the countryside. I love to sit out there in the peace and quiet, breathing in the fresh air and losing myself in the beauty. Stafford-shire sounds great too, anywhere with fresh, beautiful scenery is a place I want to be/
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    Wow, you have certainly travelled around some stunning scenery and some distances on your bike! I have not travelled as far as Leek or heard of Rudyard lake, where is this? Voldy, this is for you, It isnt my photo, one of google images but it shows Surprise view.
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    Wow I never knew that ! I spent housrs of my life in Revolution in 1977-81 - remember they used to write lists of news records on the wall - used to be a mad rush for the limited editiosn coloured versions or free badges etc. I bought In the City there to though never knew they had been there. Paul Weller looks like a child - which he was ! great days !
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    K W Hawley (Tools) Ltd., tool dealers, 6 Earl Street. 1965 directory.
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    Kingfisher on the River Don next to Norfolk Bridge. As fish now thrive in our rivers and Canal, so do the birds that rely on them for food.