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  1. 2 points
    Hello I was recently (and not unusually) in a charity shop looking at some teaspoons in an open cutlery sized cardboard box. I was “umming and ahing” about buying these 6 Victorian electroplated spoons that lacked any “meaningful” maker’s marks. That was until I turned the box lid over. I paid the money and the box (and the spoons) were mine. The image of the box lid is below, and that box had nothing to do with the contents. I was going to tack my photo on to somebody else’s thread, but I was astounded to not find that neither “Debesco Works” or the “Lewis Rose” concern that was based there, or “Roses” renowned owner are referenced on the forum. I already knew “stuff” about the “Debesco trademark” and “Lewis Rose Company Ltd” from another forum and the below illustrated spoon (that once might well have been covered by a box lid like that in my photo) is one of my own favoured spoons for making a coffee with. It seems from a Sheffield museums reference that the “Lewis Rose Company Ltd” was set up in 1922 by Isadore Lewis starting in the Mappin Buildings in Norfolk Street. Debesco was their trademark and Debesco Works was the name of a possible expanded workplace on Norfolk St. and Norfolk Lane (a P.S. about this later). There is elsewhere a reference also to a Debesco works on Eyre St. More clarification required please. My interest in Lewis Rose was with spoons and forks but below is some bladed interest. It is speculation on my part to suggest that the “Firth’s Stainless” knives in the photo may be pre WW2 while the knives with what appears to be a “Larko” Lewis Rose trademark could be post WW2. By the way who know what "whitening" is? My wife told me 1 option. The Spear & Jackson Company acquired Lewis Rose in 1969 but since the post WW2 period Lewis Rose had been using the “Ashberry” name in its production, as it had acquired Sheffield’s “Peter Ashberry&Sons” prior to WW2. I have given some ideas about Lewis Rose but any observations that can add to the story or contradict things are definitely required. But now why is there no reference on the forum to “Isadore Lewis, described by Sheffield’s Museums as Sheffield’s first Jewish Lord Mayor. Reference http://collections.museums-sheffield.org.uk/view/people/asitem/items@null:415/0?t:state:flow=34948cb9-a938-479b-b915-8bf7884dffb2 That was in 1963 and below is my last photo to show some of what his company was doing in the War years. That’s it fulfilling War Department broad arrow contracts facilitating our Army to march on its stomach. If there are any more “anoraks” like me, the 1942 item was a spoon and the 1944 item was a fork. The L.R.& Co. Ltd. has also been attributed elsewhere to Lewis Rose. Kalfred P.s. A little question here about Norfolk Lane. It does not appear on Google maps, but a Norfolk Row is there. Norfolk Lane addresses are to be found in “Sheffield Indexers” but latest address was 1925. Picturesheffield.com photos “shows rear” Howard Street and Norfolk Lane and Norfolk Lane from Howard St. I hope “Edmund” of cartography fame can help again.
  2. 2 points
    Having taken a long hard look again my opinion is that we are being somewhat confused by the strength of the camera's ability to foreshorten the distances we are seeing. The first road junction nearest to the camera is Charles Street (on both sides of the road) and the new looking boarding on the left surrounded the site shown in the PS s24079 image (Cambridge Arcade etc.). The concrete street lighting columns would have been erected at approximately 100 foot intervals,subject to practical considerations,and if you look at their number on the original picture and how close they appear to be,that demolition site is the whole of that block of shops. That illuminated circular sign and solid white line would be a 'STOP' whilst there are double yellow lines just visible,on both photos,on the opposite side of the road corner. Between us , we seem to be getting more of the pieces of this one sorted out and just to prove that older threads can be very useful the camera location on this one would have been near to the old Barrel Inn!
  3. 1 point

    From the album: Various Old n Not So Old

    This picture was given to me by a client whose mother lived on Turners Hill. He didn't know the date but thinks it's pre WW2 because many properties including his mothers suffered serious bomb damage in the war. Looking carefully you can just see a train under the iron bridge.
  4. 1 point
    The cinema was originally opened in the late 1930s as the Capitol...During the War it also saw some live entertainments including at one stage a circus complete with a rather smelly elephant. It became a part of the Essoldo group some time in the late 1950s/early 60s( with other cinemas at Southey Green and Ecclesfield). I can't recall ,after the name change to Vogue, that it ever became a multiscreen cinema but by then my local viewing days were long past.
  5. 1 point
    After 24 hours, you beat me to it by seconds Bogins I don't think there is any doubt Voldy has cracked it. There is a lamppost right by the stop sign, and the wooden hoardings continue some distance beyond the next lamppost down. Possibly beyond the third lamppost. They must be a minimum of 50 yards long, probably more. In these two photos, you can see that the modern Grovesenor House block (between Cambridge Street and Charter Square), is slightly set back, (wider pavement). In the Moor 1977 photo, you can just see the upper floors concrete "filigrees windows" poking out beyond the older buildings (between Charles Street and Cambridge Street). The "foreshortening" is quite startling. The old Barrel Inn? That's a new one on me!
  6. 1 point
    Thanks Voldy . I am sure you are right. Looking at some Picture Sheffield images and Google Street View some of the frontages between Charles Street and Cambridge Street seem to make it conclusive. I think I was going too far back by only remembering the crossing being below the arcade. In both the Picture Sheffield view looking the other way and in the current Google view the crossing is up by Charles Street. Also I couldn't work out where the bottom of Cambridge Street was in the original, but it is still very hard to see in the modern view. The camera can do funny things. Thank again ------------ http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?action=zoomWindow&keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;v00324&prevUrl=
  7. 1 point
    I think that was 1976, prior to demolition which I think was 77.
  8. 1 point
    Could this have been taken in November on the Day of the Rag procession? Heavy police presence and many people lining the street not seemingly going anywhere plus Christmas decorations along the route. The 'NO ENTRY' signs have an additional plate beneath them which may read "Except for Buses" so what looks like a procession of floats is the reason for the large turnout of spectators. Why not 1977?
  9. 1 point
    Sorry, but this is nowhere near 1977. The Moor was pedestrianised in around '74. The Manpower Services Commission building was already being built across the bottom end of The Moor a year or two before that - maybe those cranes at the bottom of The Moor are for exactly that. But the biggest giveaway, is the bus. It's still in the old Sheffield Transport livery - pale cream and navy blue. They became South Yorkshire Passenger Transport Executive (SYPTE), in maybe '72 or '73. 1974 at the very latest. That's when the livery became the pale cream and dirty brown colours. My best guess for this photo would be 1972. The old Suggs building and covered arcade on Pinstone Street has been demolished in this photo - LHS. Again, my guess would be 1972 for that. But if you want to be sure, that's where to begin. EDIT: I take it all back. MSC Building did not open until! 1981, and The Moor was last used by traffic in 1979. In the mid 70s, as school kids, we used to catch the number 4 bus back home from Paternoster Row, sometimes we walked up to Pinstone Street, or The Moor, where we could also catch any one of the 17, 24, 81, 82, or 83 bus routes. I was quite certain that it was during my school years that buses down The Moor began taking that ridiculous detour around Manpower Services, and then later, the full detour down Charter Row. I later worked in the city centre for several years, and had the same choice of bus routes, so I am conflating the two periods and memories.
  10. 1 point
    This is a terrific photo of old Sheffield. Been trying to work out where it was taken from and the buildings in shot at the front? Any ideas?
  11. 1 point
    In the 1881 census, my G.G.Grandfather (Isaac Longden) was living at the above address, with a given occupation of Blacksmith and Innkeeper. The address is at the corner of Pinstone Street and Cross Burgess Street, opposite the Salvation Army citadel and is currently Morris Bywater the jewellers. Maybe the numbering of the road has changed since 1881, but it's there or abouts? Despite searching for maps / images for this address on Picture Sheffield and oldmapsonline etc. I cannot find any record of either a photograph, detailed map, or the like. All the maps show the 'new' parade of shops under construction (as at May 1896) or nothing at all (1888) and all the photo's I can find must post date the building where the Smithy / Inn once stood? I'm hoping someone else can suggest some sources that may provide another avenue of research? Thanks in advance
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