RichardB Posted June 10, 2010 Author Share Posted June 10, 2010 Answer - I think - PM'd Exceptionally distant from the answer I have Vox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted June 10, 2010 Author Share Posted June 10, 2010 Answer - I think - PM'd Walkley-bank, celebrated as Sheffield schoolboys too well know for ............. (No. of dots not relevant; two words) I was born at Upperthorpe, lived twice just off South Road; two sisters lived in three different houses in Walkley and I didn't know this - answer is available on the internet; not some obscure book I've bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Walkley-bank, celebrated as Sheffield schoolboys too well know for ............. (No. of dots not relevant; two words) I was born at Upperthorpe, lived twice just off South Road; two sisters lived in three different houses in Walkley and I didn't know this - answer is available on the internet; not some obscure book I've bought. Well I can't find anything ontnet but I'll PM you another educated stab in the dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Well I can't find anything ontnet but I'll PM you another educated stab in the dark. Birch trees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Birch trees Beat me to that one by 2 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Beat me to that one by 2 mins. The answer is in Wicki and it is also on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 The answer is in Wicki and it is also on here On Here is where I found it as well, although it was only a deduction because it doesn't actually mention "Figs" - does it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 On Here is where I found it as well, although it was only a deduction because it doesn't actually mention "Figs" - does it ? Not found 'Figs' thought that was another question ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted June 10, 2010 Author Share Posted June 10, 2010 Not found 'Figs' thought that was another question ? I send a copy of the following excellent verses, written by Mr. Chadwick, late Master of the Grammar School at Sheffield, and published some years ago in the Sheffield Iris; they are well worthy of being preserved in your imperishable pnges. Though I think it is now very generally admitted that the virtues of birch have been greatly overrated, yet it may not be uninteresting to be reminded, in good and humorous verse, how highly this nostrum was formerly prized. W. B. The Birch Tree. Ye worthies in trust for the School and the Church, Pray hear me descant on the: virtues of Birch. Tl»>' the Oak he the prince and the pride of the grove, An emblem of power, the favourite of Jove; Tho' Phoebus with Laurel his temples have bound, ; And with chaplets of Poplar Alcides be cronw'd Tho' Pallas the Olive has grac'd with her choice. And Cybele Mater in Pines may rejoice ; Tho' Bacchus delights in the Ivy and Vine, And Vcnm her garlands with Myrtle entwine ; Yet the Muses declare, after diligent search. No tree can be found to compare with the Birch. The Birch, they aver, it the true tree of knowledge, Rever'd by each school, and remember'd at college; Tho' Virgil's fam'd tree may produce, as its fruit, A crop of vain dreams from each shoot; Yet the Birch on each bough, on the top of each switch, Bears the essence of grammar, the eight parts of speech 'Mongst the leaves is conceal'd more than memory can mention, All cases, all genders, all form* of declension Nine branches, when crop'd by the hands of the Nine, Each duly arranged in a parallel line, Tied up in nine folds of a mystical string, And soak'd for nine hours in Helicon's spring, Is a sceptre compos'd for a Pedagogue's hand, Like the fasces of Rome, a true badge of command The sceptre thus finish'd, like Moses' rod From flints can draw tears, or give life to a clod Should darkness Egyptian, or ignorance spread; Its clouds o'er the mind, or envelope the head; This rod, thrice applied, puts the darkness to flight. Disperses the clouds, and restores us to light. Like the Virga Diviua, 'twill find out the vein Where lurks the rich metal, the gold of the brain. Should Genius a captive by Sloth be confin'd; Or the witchcraft of Pleasure prevail o'er the mind; Apply but this magical wand, with a stroke The spell is dissolv'd, the enchantment is broke. Like Hermes's rod, these few switches inspire Rhetorical thunder, and Poetry's fire : And if Morpheus our temples in Lethe should steep, These switches untie all the fetters of sleep. Here dwells strong Conviction, of Logic the glory, When "tis us'd with precision, al posteriori .; It promotes circulation, and thrills through each vein. The faculties quickens, and purges the brain. Whatever disorders prevail in the blood, The Birch can correct them, like Gusiscum wood : So luscious its juice is, so sweet are its twigs, That at Sheffield we call them the Walkley bank figs. As the fam'd rod of Circe to brutes could change men, So the twigs of the Birch can unbrute them again Like the rod of the Sybil, that branch of pure gold, These twigs can the gates of Elysium unfold, That Elysium of learning, where pleasures abound, Those fruits that still flourish on classical ground. ------------------------------------- Complete twaddle ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 Who was the Duke of Norfolks Gamekeeper for the Manor of Sheffield and Handsworth in 1800 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 Who was the Duke of Norfolks Gamekeeper for the Manor of Sheffield and Handsworth in 1800 ? and for Ecclesfield ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrup Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Who was the Duke of Norfolks Gamekeeper for the Manor of Sheffield and Handsworth in 1800 ? George Bowler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 George Bowler. I don't think so syryp. George Bowler was Gamekeeper to the Earl of Effingham for the Manor of Rotherham & Kimberworth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted July 11, 2010 Author Share Posted July 11, 2010 George Bowler. G. Bowler, Ecclesfield Monday, December 1st, 1800 [i can't provide a link until the Sheffield and Handsworth bit is answered. Game-keepers may well have moved around from place to place, so, very possible Bowler was at Sheffield before, or after, the specific date shown above. We cannot be 100% certain, other than the license as shown above (and any other such references). As ever, the question was for entertainment purposes only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrup Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 G. Bowler, Ecclesfield Monday, December 1st, 1800 [i can't provide a link until the Sheffield and Handsworth bit is answered. Game-keepers may well have moved around from place to place, so, very possible Bowler was at Sheffield before, or after, the specific date shown above. We cannot be 100% certain, other than the license as shown above (and any other such references). As ever, the question was for entertainment purposes only. In 1800 George Bowler was showing as Gamekeeper for The Earl of Effingham at Rotherham and Kimberworth Manors He was also shown as being Gamekeeper for The Duke of Norfolk at Eclesfield Manor. Jonas Bamford was also shown as Gamekeeper for The Duke of Norfolk at Sheffield and Handsworth Manors. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dutillieul/ZOtherPapers/LI1Dec1800A.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted July 11, 2010 Author Share Posted July 11, 2010 In 1800 George Bowler was showing as Gamekeeper for The Earl of Effingham at Rotherham and Kimberworth Manors He was also shown as being Gamekeeper for The Duke of Norfolk at Eclesfield Manor. Jonas Bamford was also shown as Gamekeeper for The Duke of Norfolk at Sheffield and Handsworth Manors. http://freepages.gen...I1Dec1800A.html Spot on, Thanks Syrup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted September 12, 2010 Author Share Posted September 12, 2010 1860's Union Question. Which Union (with head quarters in Belper, but who instigated Outrages at Thorpe Hesley) had no mandatory weekly contribution - instead, imposing a levy when a strike occurs to support the men who are "out" please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted September 12, 2010 Author Share Posted September 12, 2010 Derbyshire, south of Sheffield ... on;y a choice of one from a list of two possibles ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted September 25, 2010 Author Share Posted September 25, 2010 "Nunk" ? (1860's) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrup Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 "Nunk" ? (1860's) As Thorpe Hesley was known for Nail Production in the distant past, Does "Nunk" stand for National Union for Nail Knockers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 As Thorpe Hesley was known for Nail Production in the distant past, Does "Nunk" stand for National Union for Nail Knockers ? I suspect the answer will be "Nunk it doesn't" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted September 26, 2010 Author Share Posted September 26, 2010 As Thorpe Hesley was known for Nail Production in the distant past, Does "Nunk" stand for National Union for Nail Knockers ? Nice try, but no ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted September 26, 2010 Author Share Posted September 26, 2010 I suspect the answer will be "Nunk it doesn't" You're right, he's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrup Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 1860's Union Question. Which Union (with head quarters in Belper, but who instigated Outrages at Thorpe Hesley) had no mandatory weekly contribution - instead, imposing a levy when a strike occurs to support the men who are "out" please ? The Nail Makers Union.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted November 12, 2010 Author Share Posted November 12, 2010 Tocsin Don't know if this is difficult or not; but I'd never heard of it. There are multiple answers the one I'm after relates to the period May - October 1840 and is specific to Sheffield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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