DaveH Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 ....great "then" pic to get 4 different major modes of transport in one pic at the same time - bus , tram , train , car Yes its a classic picture. I am sure I have seen it before somewhere but what a great shot to pair up in this way. Stuart0742 seems to have his own "sources" for pictures like this, look at his excellent colour pictures from the 1960's of the Moor and Waingate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 I think your NOW location is a bit further down than the THEN photo. The THEN was taken next to where the Crucible and New Interchange is I think. I think your right but to get a picture at any point on this road as quiet and peacefull as the first one, without a load of cars, buses pulling in to that stop on the left and pedestrians was difficult enough. Most of my then pictures seem to have been taken late in the year, December time. I must have taken this one on Christmas day morning to get it as quiet as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Then, Not so Then & Now Wicker Arches Top photo is low Res hence the poor quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Then, Not so Then & Now Wicker Arches Top photo is low Res hence the poor quality Unless I am mistaken that middle picture appears to have 3 minis in it!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Two views along the river Don from the bridge at Blonk Street. Both look down Caslegate towards Lady's Bridge and the Whitbread Brewery (open in 1974, - top picture, long gone in 2008, -lower picture) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest transit Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Yes its a classic picture. I am sure I have seen it before somewhere but what a great shot to pair up in this way. Stuart0742 seems to have his own "sources" for pictures like this, look at his excellent colour pictures from the 1960's of the Moor and Waingate. ... yes ,theres a colour oil painting/print thats been doing the souvinir/ ebay rounds for several years - this....... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Similar location to the previous one on Blonk Street / Castlegate. This one shows Castle Market. Instantly recognisable in both views as it has changed little over the years. However if the market is shortly to close and the area redeveloped both these pictures could become the subject of Sheffield Places - Now Gone! My late father would be proud of these pictures as he worked 27 years for Sheffield Corporation as a painter & decorator. For some reason he worked with the markets department and had to paint, in turn :- 1) Castle Market 2) Sheffield Corporation Abbatoir (Just don't ask what he was painting over!) 3) Sheffield Wholesale Market / Parkway Market As the THEN photo is 1974 at the middle of his painting career that very prominent "CASTLE MARKET" sign more than likely bears his handiwork. What a pity it's not visible in the NOW photo. Is it still there? Just in need of a coat of paint perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 ....great "then" pic to get 4 different major modes of transport in one pic at the same time - bus , tram , train , car Is the Steam Engine a B3 class? in my post #47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 ... yes ,theres a colour oil painting/print thats been doing the souvinir/ ebay rounds for several years - this....... ? Yes, thats the picture I was thinking of, but as its a painting and not a photograph is it the work of local artist "Mick Rick" as it bears a lot of his style and he does loads of old Sheffield pictures with trams and buses. When there is a market in Fargate he is usually there selling his work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Yes, thats the picture I was thinking of, but as its a painting and not a photograph is it the work of local artist "Mick Rick" as it bears a lot of his style and he does loads of old Sheffield pictures with trams and buses. When there is a market in Fargate he is usually there selling his work. Probably inspired by my mid 1950's photo lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Probably inspired by my mid 1950's photo More than likely. We have 5 of his prints in our entrance hall at the bottom of the stairs which we bought off him at a Fargate market. I once got in conversation with him and he said he starts by copying the background scene and prominent buildings from old photos so that the scene will be a recognisable Sheffield location and then he adds in his own extra bits like a bus or a tram or a few cars, although most of his pictures depict a time before 1959, so there are no minis. So it could well be that he was working from your photo, if it is a Mick Rick picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 A bit of a variation on the theme A Then & Then comparison of the same scene The Top one is a B/W photo The Bottom one "Valesque" Postcard based on the same photo Date 1930's open to discussion on the date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 That's a "Then and Then" photo ! More please, how about Then and Before Then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 That's a "Then and Then" photo ! More please, how about Then and Before Then ? or ... Then and 20 minutes before Then going back over 87 years - a montage ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 A bit of a variation on the theme A Then & Then comparison of the same scene The Top one is a B/W photo The Bottom one "Valesque" Postcard based on the same photo Date 1930's open to discussion on the date At first sight these 2 pictures appear to be identical. But if you look closely children you may notice 10 changes we have made. CAN YOU SPOT THEM! Answers on a postcard please to The Beano, ToyTown There is a prize for the first entry drawn at random after the closing date which has all the correct answers. The prize is ...a day trip to Angel Street, Sheffield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Got four : Blind extreme left, more exposed Chimney, extreme top right missing (basically the whole photo is from a different angle or cropped) The man above the word Street (left) has lost about 3 stone Most importantly : Bertie Basset's shadow is missing from the bottom one (extreme bottom right) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Got four : Blind extreme left, more exposed Chimney, extreme top right missing (basically the whole photo is from a different angle or cropped) The man above the word Street (left) has lost about 3 stone Most importantly : Bertie Basset's shadow is missing from the bottom one (extreme bottom right) I give up, the colour one is slightly smaller and the edges are not there, but other than that they are the same I have slightly resized the colour one and superimposed them in photoshop and you can fade b/w to colour, cant see any major differences (PSD file available if you are interested) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I give up, the colour one is slightly smaller and the edges are not there, but other than that they are the same I have slightly resized the colour one and superimposed them in photoshop and you can fade b/w to colour, cant see any major differences (PSD file available if you are interested) Got it, it was a trick, there are no differences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 Got it, it was a trick, there are no differences Gotcha!! Another one to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Gotcha!! Another one to me Angel St and Castle Sq Then and Then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 Angel St and Castle Sq Then and Then Have you got any years for the two obviously different THEN's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Have you got any years for the two obviously different THEN's? No not really Top one no trams therefore sixties Bottom one looks early seventies As good as I can do at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest plain talker Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 No not really Top one no trams therefore sixties Bottom one looks early seventies As good as I can do at the moment in the top picture, Castle House is not there,(not even as a one-storey building) so I'd even venture a guess at it being the very early sixties. In the background, it looks as if the four Pye Bank high rise are not there so again, points to about 60/63, I'd think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike142sl Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Angel St and Castle Sq Then and Then Here's an easy one for the regulars - Who is the statue stuck to the wall as can be seen easily in the first pic? (ps it was made in 1961) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest plain talker Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Here's an easy one for the regulars - Who is the statue stuck to the wall as can be seen easily in the first pic? (ps it was made in 1961) It's one of the three statues of Vulcan that we have in the city centre, the other two being atop the Lyceum Dome, and atop the town hall tower. That one, on Hornes' wall used to scare the bejabers out of me as a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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