boginspro Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Postcard for sale on Ebay. Can anyone name this pub please? This wasn't really my end of town but if the pub was actually still there fifty years or so ago I should have known it. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VTG-PH-POSTCARD-PUB-BOY-BANNER-CROSS-SHEFFIELD/372219847119?hash=item56aa0821cf:g:0C4AAOSwtudagH3R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcrust Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 It’s the Banner Cross Pub (original name eh?). Still looks much the same. edit: scrub that. I think I’m completely wrong! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin72 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 The slope of the road looks like where the Banner Cross is, but the buildings are different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boginspro Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, shortcrust said: It’s the Banner Cross Pub (original name eh?). Still looks much the same. edit: scrub that. I think I’m completely wrong! Perhaps un-scrub that, shortcrust as Calvin72 says the slope looks right and also the skyline, and is that possibly Marmion Road a bit further down. Could this be an older Banner Cross pub building? I can't even remember what it looked like fifty years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy117 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I would agree it is the Banner Cross pub. The lad standing by the kerb looks to be at the bottom of the path that leads up to Psalter Lane. Looking at Google maps, most of the buildings have been rebuilt over the years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arif Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 There is still the alley way to the right of the pub. This exists to the right of the Banner today so that ties in. Didn'nt Charlie Peace have some association with the houses to the left of the pub. Can some one do a screen shot from Google Maps to show us how close the two are/were? (Not sure how to do it myself, that's why I ask). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy117 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Think Charlie Peace had association with the houses at the top of the path on Psalter Lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unrecordings Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 It is indeed still The Banner Cross 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unrecordings Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I realise that not only did the pub extend up the hill, it swallowed up a couple of houses down the hill too. I'll get another angle to try and illustrate that. IMHO it looks like the pub was rebuilt in the 20's/30's. Can anyone date the original photo ? Edit: There you go. Maybe it didn't swallow up more houses down the street... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unrecordings Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 If you can stand all the adverts and clickbait, this is quite interesting - it includes a plan of the terrace and the (infamous) Dyson house https://www.thestar.co.uk/retro/retro-is-the-the-place-where-infamous-sheffield-murderer-charlie-peace-killed-1-8541046 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madannie77 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Or to avoid all the adverts try this cached Google link 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arif Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, madannie77 said: Or to avoid all the adverts try this cached Google link Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boginspro Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 Thanks everyone for solving this one for me, it has turned out more interesting than I could have hoped. I have found this drawing of Charlie Peace with the pub at the back and also a picture of Dyson's house on Picture Sheffield. Can anyone remember what the pub looked like in the 60's / 70's please? Though I had a girl friend in the area and also passed the place regularly while working the Derbyshire bus routes I can't remember what it looked like at that time but don't think it looked like it does now.. ---------------------- http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s27547&pos=121&action=zoom&id=29948 http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s37784&pos=353&action=zoom&id=114680 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unrecordings Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 That's going to be the gennel on the extreme left (of the last picture) that was subsequently built over 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unrecordings Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 There's a picture here from 1961 http://www.thebannercross.co.uk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Lots more detail in this thread - includes plans of the area: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boginspro Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, unrecordings said: There's a picture here from 1961 http://www.thebannercross.co.uk Thanks unrecordings , so not much different from now days. I am surprised I haven't better memories of it, especially as it was a Tetley house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_exS10 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 On 16/02/2018 at 19:24, unrecordings said: I realise that not only did the pub extend up the hill, it swallowed up a couple of houses down the hill too. I'll get another angle to try and illustrate that. IMHO it looks like the pub was rebuilt in the 20's/30's. Can anyone date the original photo ? Edit: There you go. Maybe it didn't swallow up more houses down the street... My first acquaintance with the area was in 1939. Nice to see someone calling it the gennel. Mention just that and everyone knew where you meant. To us it was straight down and across to the Co-op for the milk tokens. ( never heard them called checks) or down Ecclesall Road to the cinema. Quite definitely the Banner Cross had been rebuilt by then as it extended over the last few yards of the gennel. Whilst it was always the gennel, if the subject came up as it only did now and again it became "Charlie Peace's Alley".We knew of the 1876 Dyson murder and Peace's ultimate execution in 1879 and not much else. There is an unbelievable amount of conflicting stories about the incident on various web sites. In the context of this thread there is a claim that there is a bullet mark on the stone lintel over the gennel. Not bad for a man who had been dead for fifty years or so before it was erected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arif Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 The postcard realised £98 can you believe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boginspro Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 5 hours ago, Arif said: The postcard realised £98 can you believe! HOW MUCH, someone has more brass than soft mick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arif Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 16 hours ago, boginspro said: HOW MUCH, someone has more brass than soft mick. It started at a tenner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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