RichardB Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Where was this in the 1840's-1850's please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Where was this in the 1840's-1850's please ? Is that Sandbed Tilt on the River Dun .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Ball Street area, Flash Earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neddy Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 At the side of the Sandbed wier at a guess Clifton Steel Works near Hillfoot Bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gramps Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Pretty sure Sandbed 'whee'l was close by Farfield House at Hillfoot Bridge. Used for titling and grinding and possibly other things, haven't got my Water Power book here at the moment, perhaps Bayleaf will confirm. Not marked as such on this map but you can see where the works were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 I have Farfield as the answer too. Thanks for the input Gramps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tollbar Jay Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I have Farfield as the answer too. Thanks for the input Gramps. i would but money on it being at the juction of sanbed road and clubmill road ...if you look at the new maps and look how the Don runs it would be natural for a works to be on the old Turton Tonks site at the side of the Farfield Pub ..i have plenty af artifacts i have found over the years from round there if anyone is interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayleaf Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Pretty sure Sandbed 'whee'l was close by Farfield House at Hillfoot Bridge. Used for titling and grinding and possibly other things, haven't got my Water Power book here at the moment, perhaps Bayleaf will confirm. Not marked as such on this map but you can see where the works were. The plan in the Water Power book doesn't help, but there is an engraving from the Hawley Collection dated 1794 showing Sandbed Wheel and Farfield Bridge looking downstream.The wheel is immediately above the original bridge on the east bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 On 03/11/2010 at 11:01, Bayleaf said: The plan in the Water Power book doesn't help, but there is an engraving from the Hawley Collection dated 1794 showing Sandbed Wheel and Farfield Bridge looking downstream.The wheel is immediately above the original bridge on the east bank. Sandbed Wheel (in background), from the Goit fed by River Don .. picturesheffield Sandbed Works, Club Mill Road ... picturesheffield [links updated 21 Mar 2021] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Pages from Tour Of The Don - sandbed .pdf Link.....Tour of The Don - 1837 Internet Archive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neddy Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Map of the Don Sandbed. Part of the Goit at the side of the wier should still be visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 In 1723 John Justis leased from the Norfolk Estate "For building a cutlers grinding wheel in the nearest convenient place from Upper Horse Pitt. Close to the head of Moreton Dam...of one end and as many troughs as convenient, nothing to prejudice Slack Wheels above Moreton Wheel." 1724 took a lease of the completed wheel. In 1726 he mortgaged the leases of Sandbed and Owlerton Wheel to Joseph Broadbent. 1740, Broadbent built a new weir and 1742 enlarged the premises. Broadbent died in 1761 and Sarah and Thomas Broadbent are recorded as leasing the wheel. 1783 Thomas Broadbent, bankrupt. Plan of Sandbed Wheel held of the Earl of Surrey by the assignees of Thomas Broadbent. 1783. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc02739&pos=3&action=zoom&id=92280 Wheels, dam and goit clearly shown and named; numerical list with descriptions and acreages; height of fall given. Neepsend village, and lands belonging to the Earl of Surrey between Pye Bank Closes and Far Field, 1784. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc03991&pos=4&action=zoom&id=102795 Cath. Burton, late John Senior, No. 1 Pingle. Anne Hirst, 2 Horse Pits, 4 Upper Car Meadow, 5 Nether Carr Meadow, 6 Near Long Dole, 7 Farther Long Dole. Assignees of T. Broadbent, 3 Sandbed Wheel with the dam, tail goight, and vacant ground betwixt them and the river. William Stocks, 8 Ox Dole Close. Widow Vickers, 9 Stubbing, 10 Dole, 11 Marsh, 17 Smithy Croft (including the garden), 18 Acre Field, 19 Hilly Field. Joseph Clay, 20 Farthest Low Close, 21 Farthest Upper Close, 22 Middle Upper Close, 23 Upper Garden, 24 Nearest Upper Close, 25 Nearest Low Close, 26 Middle Low Close, 27 Lower Garden. Silvester Wadsworth, 12 Far Close, 13 Middle close, 14 Nearest Close, 15 several houses, etc. James Creswick, 28 a garden, 29 - 30. James Kay, 32 common. John Ward, 33 Commons south of the footway, 34 commons north of the footway. John Milner, 35 Commons, 35a garden (south of the footway). Thomas Burgan, 37 Commons, 38 commons, 39 commons (south of the footway). Jonn. Moore, 40, 41, 42 Pye Bank Close. Samuel Barlow, 16 a garden (inclosed from the waste grounds). Kinsey Winnell, 31 a small croft, smithy, etc. Shows Farfield, Neepsend, Pye Bank [closes], River Dunn [Don], 'Wood called Mire Acre Wood', [Cooks] Wood, Harvest Lane End, wear [weir]. The lease passed to merchant, Robert Trickett who assigned the lease in 1791 to a group of cutlers, one of whom was Peter Cadman (1794 list) By this time the Wheel had 52 troughs in three wheels and also a tilt. 1808 the tenants purchased the freehold from the Norfolk Estate. Advertised for sale 1816 & 1818 but the Cadman Association remained until 1852, selling to William Makin. Makin died 8th January 1856 and the Trustees kept the wheel as shown from their Flood Claim for £1418/11/7d. William Makin, gentleman of Attercliffe Listing: Damage to Clifton Works, Hillfoot near Sheffield, comprising: Grinding Wheel;Tilts; File Manufacture; Cottages; Stable; Dam; Shuttles; Weir; Goights; Culverts etc. in the occupation of Messrs William Makin & Sons lessees. https://sheffieldfloodclaimsarchive.shu.ac.uk/claimSummary.cfm?claim=6-5475 Claimed also: James Marchinton and Benjamin Makin carrying on business under the firm of William Makin and Sons, steel and file Manufacturers of: Clifton Works, Hillfoot and Attercliffe near Sheffield. https://sheffieldfloodclaimsarchive.shu.ac.uk/claimSummary.cfm?claim=11-5474 Thomas Yates, file cutter residing No.12 Court, new Edward Street. Employed at William Makin & Sons, Hill Foot had his claim dismissed. https://sheffieldfloodclaimsarchive.shu.ac.uk/claimSummary.cfm?claim=1-419 Selling, 1886 to John and Henry Andrews who eventually became Andrews Toledo. The claim revealed a steam engine boiler was in use although steam and water power was still used 1897 and even in 1907 listed as, still using Water Power. For added information see: Water Power on the Sheffield Rivers, edited by David Crossley with Jean Cass, Neville Flavell & Colin Turner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 William Makin and Sons, steel converters and refiners, Clifton Steel Works and Attercliffe. y03284 From an advertisement in the 1859 Melville Co.'s Commercial Directory of Sheffield, Rotherham and the Neighbourhood. The devastation from the Flood of 1864 probably had an effect on the health of William Makin as he died 8th January 1865 at Clifton House, Attercliffe. (details of Flood Claim in previous post) "AWAY ON A BOILER. The works of Messrs. Marchington and Makin are a little lower down the river. The gable end of the building was driven in, and the water swept with great impetuosity through the workshops destroying the machinery, and damaging everything in the place. A MASSIVE weir, with heavy iron shuttles, was carried away, and half a dozen immense stones, which were strongly clamped together were borne down the stream a distance of more than twenty yards. On a raised footpath, which ran along the river side of the works, was a strong railing of iron, secured to pillars of the same metal weighing one hundred weight each. This was torn out of its position, and the wrought iron bars were twisted in a very curious manner. Several “stocks” at which file-cutters worked were washed out of the building. It remains to be added that a man named William Simpson lost his life at these works, and a boy named Capper had a very narrow escape. They were both working all night at the forge, and soon after twelve they were surprised by the sudden approach of a mighty torrent which came rushing into the building. Simpson immediately ran out of the workshop, and mounted on the top of a large boiler, which had been erected near the goit. The boy Capper climbed on to a beam above the boiler, but not connected with it. The water got underneath and around the boiler, lifted it up, with the man Simpson upon it, and carried it away, with the brick pillars upon which it stood. Of course Simpson was drowned. The boy Capper was more fortunate. He held on to the beam for several hours, and was at length rescued, by John Gill, who lived upon the premises. The boiler, which is about thirty feet in length, was carried down nearly a mile, and deposited in Messrs. Butchers’ yard. The water rose to the height of fifteen feet in the workshop." Extract from: "Complete History of the Great Flood at Sheffield." Flood Claim of Ann Simpson, Grove Street, Hillfoot. Wife and 6 children of of William Simpson. https://sheffieldfloodclaimsarchive.shu.ac.uk/claimSummary.cfm?claim=9a-73 Claim of George Capper, Forgeman & Tilter. 133 Hill Foot. Claim including for lost time at Sandbed Forge. https://sheffieldfloodclaimsarchive.shu.ac.uk/claimSummary.cfm?claim=1-243 Claim of John Gill, Millwright at Clifton Steel Works, Hillfoot. https://sheffieldfloodclaimsarchive.shu.ac.uk/claimSummary.cfm?claim=3-2672 Possibly another claimant for loss of wages at Makins. Ann Fox, widow, File Dresser at Makins, No. 1 Radleys Yard, Allen Street. Claim dismissed. https://sheffieldfloodclaimsarchive.shu.ac.uk/claimSummary.cfm?claim=2-1690 Also: John Shimield, Paper Knife MakerRose Buildings, Hardy Street, Sheffield, Works at Clifton Works, Hill foot. https://sheffieldfloodclaimsarchive.shu.ac.uk/claimSummary.cfm?claim=10-3316 Joseph Travis of No. 14 Walter Street, Infirmary Road, Sheffield, late of Clifton Works, Hillfoot, Sheffield. https://sheffieldfloodclaimsarchive.shu.ac.uk/claimSummary.cfm?claim=9b-78 Son of William, Edwin John Makin (1833-1912) https://www.hawleysheffieldknives.com/n-fulldetails.php?val=makin&kel=2689 Wm. Makin and Sons, steel tools and machine knife manufacturer, Attercliffe Steel Works, Darnall Road. y03364 From an advertisement in the 1900 White's General and Commercial Directory of Sheffield and Rotherham. Wm Makin & Son may have a link to Thomas Makin & Son, Castle Works, Edward Street/Scotland Street. https://www.hawleysheffieldknives.com/n-fulldetails.php?val=makin&kel=2688 1938 There was still a Wm. Makin & Son, Darnall Road area in the late 1960's early 1970's. Link to: William Makin & Sons, Attercliffe. https://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/topic/3239-william-makin-amp-sons-attercliffe/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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