RichardB Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 When Buonaparte's war-carriage stood For show i't' Tontine yard A trophy won an' lost bi blood Then bought bi Dame Tussard Any thoughts/more information please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 When Buonaparte's war-carriage stood For show i't' Tontine yard A trophy won an' lost bi blood Then bought bi Dame Tussard Any thoughts/more information please ? From The History of Madam Tussauds Napoleon's Waterloo carriage—Description of its exterior. "SOME account must be given of this most interesting relic. Ever since it first came to the Exhibition it has excited the most lively interest, and, until it was covered in by a glazed case, visitors enjoyed the privilege of sitting inside—a proceeding which would not have mattered had not unscrupulous souvenir hunters abused this favour by pilfering portions of the fabric that lined it." Full article Edit: Tontine - by the way. As I understand, and very loosely, is something to do with joint ownership, so the yard was probably jointly owned by a few different persons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted July 11, 2010 Author Share Posted July 11, 2010 From The History of Madam Tussauds Napoleon's Waterloo carriage—Description of its exterior. "SOME account must be given of this most interesting relic. Ever since it first came to the Exhibition it has excited the most lively interest, and, until it was covered in by a glazed case, visitors enjoyed the privilege of sitting inside—a proceeding which would not have mattered had not unscrupulous souvenir hunters abused this favour by pilfering portions of the fabric that lined it." Full article Edit: Tontine - by the way. As I understand, and very loosely, is something to do with joint ownership, so the yard was probably jointly owned by a few different persons. There should be a list (on here somewhere) of the "subscribers" to the tontine; and indeed the last person to survive was meant to inherit the income from the place - if only the trains hadn't destoyed its trade in a matter of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 There should be a list (on here somewhere) of the "subscribers" to the tontine; and indeed the last person to survive was meant to inherit the income from the place - if only the trains hadn't destoyed its trade in a matter of months. This list ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted July 11, 2010 Author Share Posted July 11, 2010 That'll do nicely, Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 That'll do nicely, Thank you. We received this by email yesterday Dear Sheffielders, I have tried to react to sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums, but unfortunately couldn't get in touch online. I am curious as to the source of the quote mentioned, as I am currently researching the subject of Napoleon's carriage . I would like to add Sheffield to the itinerary of the coach, but would need a proper source, Best regards, Elsbeth Kwant (the Netherlands) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 I am curious as to the source of the quote mentioned, as I am currently researching the subject of Napoleon's carriage . I'm equally curious and I must have found it at some point ! All hands to the internet trawling process ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 I would like to add Sheffield to the itinerary of the coach, but would need a proper source, This document is not the source, interesting description though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 This document is not the source, interesting description though. Another interesting document. Now't specifically to do with Sheffield however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 Hornn The narrative of Jean Hornn, Military Coachman to Napolean Bonaparte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 Trying to narrow down the year(s) : Exhibition at Bullock's Museum of Bonaparte's Carriage Taken at Waterloo, pub. by Rudolph Ackermann, 1816 Source : http://www.bridgemanart.com/image.aspx?key=124808 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 Trying to narrow down the year(s) : Bonaparte's coach on show at Bullock's Museum, Piccadilly, Westminster, London, 1835. Artist: George Cruikshank http://www.heritage-images.com/Preview/PreviewPage.aspx?id=1239605&pricing=true&licenseType=RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 Trying to narrow down the year(s) : Exhibition at Bullock's Museum of Bonaparte's Carriage Taken at Waterloo, pub. by Rudolph Ackermann, 1816 William Bullock (born 1773, location as yet unknown) worked as a goldsmith and jeweller in Sheffield. He collected artifacts, antiquities and stuffed animals. 1798 he began to charge for admission to a "Museum of Natural Curiosities" in his home in Sheffield. 1801 relocated his museum from Sheffield to Liverpool - see http://www.kouroo.info/kouroo/thumbnails/B/WilliamBullock.pdf 1809 relocated to London. 1816 Egyptian Exhibition Hall on Picadilly displays the carriage Napoleon Bonaparte abandoned at Waterloo. Still looking for the carriage "on tour" ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 1816 Egyptian Exhibition Hall on Picadilly displays the carriage Napoleon Bonaparte abandoned at Waterloo. European Magazine and London Review, 1816 http://books.google....arriage&f=false - scroll down to near bottom of page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckweed Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Bonaparte's coach on show at Bullock's Museum, Piccadilly, Westminster, London, 1835. Artist: George Cruikshank http://www.heritage-images.com/Preview/PreviewPage.aspx?id=1239605&pricing=true&licenseType=RM What I found from an abstract is this. It was described as Napoleon's Battle Carriage. William Bullock ran museums in London Liverpool and Sheffield. He auctioned his Napoleonic treasures in 1819 He died in1849 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckweed Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 What I found from an abstract is this. It was described as Napoleon's Battle Carriage. William Bullock ran museums in London Liverpool and Sheffield. He auctioned his Napoleonic treasures in 1819 He died in1849 This gives a little more info. http://www.rhinoresourcecenter.com/ref_files/1292128060.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 What I found from an abstract is this. It was described as Napoleon's Battle Carriage. William Bullock ran museums in London Liverpool and Sheffield. He auctioned his Napoleonic treasures in 1819 He died in1849 More here, pages 4-5 + etched frontispoece http://www.pickering-chatto.com/PandC/Catalogues_files/Propaganda.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 This gives a little more info. http://www.rhinoreso.../1292128060.pdf Number 8 and 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl1867 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 There's a Napoleon connection in Crabtree - but not the one you're after N Tomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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