Roger Stevenson Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 At the junction of Cockshutt Road, Crawshaw Grove and Crawshaw Avenue, there is a footpath between houses leading to Parkbank Wood from where a descent can be made to reach Beauchief Abbey. The houses round there were built pre war. Was that footpath there before housing development and did it continue back in the direction of what became Westwick Road ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3314261,- https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3315282,-1.4955724,17.71z?entry=ttu https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom= https://maps.nls.uk/view/101600205#zoom=6&lat=4416&lon=7515&layers=BT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Hi Rodger : The paths were there long before the Westwick housing development came about! Nearly all the old footpaths around Greenhill are said to be ancient pathways between Norton Church and Beauchief Abbey and been in use for hundreds of years and still continue to be used to this day. A lot of the paths shown in this National Library of Scotland link can still be found! https://maps.nls.uk/view-full/100950269#zoom=4&lat=3077&lon=3137&layers=BT This painting shows some folk taking a Sunday stroll along a path coming from in the opposite direction towards Beauchief Abbey. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Stevenson Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 Good morning southside Any knowledge relating to the colour print of the Beauchief view ? i.e. Artist and date Is this on display anywhere ? Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Stevenson Posted February 25 Author Share Posted February 25 On 22/02/2024 at 09:49, Roger Stevenson said: Good morning southside Any knowledge relating to the colour print of the Beauchief view ? i.e. Artist and date Is this on display anywhere ? Roger I was hoping for a response from southside re my request for information relating to the colour print of the Beauchief view. Anyone with knowledge of the artist and date of painting ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Not the colour one unfortunately. General view of Abbeydale by artist William Ibbitt. Beauchief Abbey in the distance. 1857. s11510 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Don't know how I missed this one. Abbey Dale. 1857 ov00161 Published April 20th 1857 by Wm. Ibbitt, 152 Broad Lane, Sheffield. Day and Son, lithographers to the Queen. Inscription on image reads: Respectfully inscribed to John Rodgers Esq. of Abbey Dale by his faithful servant William Ibbitt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Stevenson Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 11 hours ago, Ponytail said: Don't know how I missed this one. Abbey Dale. 1857 ov00161 Published April 20th 1857 by Wm. Ibbitt, 152 Broad Lane, Sheffield. Day and Son, lithographers to the Queen. Inscription on image reads: Respectfully inscribed to John Rodgers Esq. of Abbey Dale by his faithful servant William Ibbitt. Good morning Ponytail and thanks. didn't think to have a look at Picture Sheffield Could this I wonder be on display anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 15 hours ago, Roger Stevenson said: I was hoping for a response from southside re my request for information relating to the colour print of the Beauchief view. Anyone with knowledge of the artist and date of painting ? Missed your post Roger! been away for a few days. Can't tell you anything about the painting myself, but looks like Ponytail has found the answer for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Found this information on Wikipedia: Says it's a hand printed lithograph by Thomas Ashburn Picken. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Abbey_Dale_by_Thomas_Ashburton_Picken_1857.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Stevenson Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 Good evening southside and Ponytail and many thanks. Some fascinating information you have provided I live a stones throw away from that location, hence my interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 This is probably the John Rodgers who Ibbitt painted the scene for. Abbeydale House 1860. y12784 s05499 In 19th century Sheffield, the most famous cutlery firm was that of Joseph Rodgers and Sons. Much of the success was due to his son John Rodgers. In 1849 John built himself a new house of polished Anston stone in the Italian style of architecture, to the designs of Rooke Harrison. He died ten years later, and his nephew Robert Newbould took over the running of the business. Newbould built a new house a little further up Abbeydale Road in 1851, calling it Abbeydale Grange. It was taken over between 1903 and 1906 and became the registered offices and admin Department of Snowite Laundry, the company's boardroom being on the first floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLongden Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 16 hours ago, Roger Stevenson said: Good evening southside and Ponytail and many thanks. Some fascinating information you have provided I live a stones throw away from that location, hence my interest Hello Roger, The artwork is part of the Government Art Collection (ref: GAC 10977). https://artcollection.culture.gov.uk/artwork/10977/ It may be on display in a Government building somewhere in the world, as some of their collection of some 14700 works are scattered across 125 countries worldwide (embassies and consulates, etc.) https://artcollection.culture.gov.uk/about/what-is-the-government-art-collection/ The chances of seeing it on display in a UK public gallery are slim (to non-existent!), but you could contact them and quote the GAC reference, so they can locate its whereabouts on their database. You may find that it is ‘in archives’, which unfortunately most of their works actually are. http://museu.ms/museum/details/14944/government-art-collection A bit of background reading and some links to explore, hope you find useful? —— It actually just ‘clicked’ with me where the origin of Abbeydale Road comes from now, as all the old maps show this as the route from Sheffield and the references to ‘Dale Abbey’ <> ‘Abbey Dale’ see reference to ‘Beauchief and Abbey Dale Station’, when it was in Derbyshire in 1883 😁 https://maps.nls.uk/view/101600205 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Stevenson Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 Good morning RLongden. I have written to find out the location of William Ibbitt's print. If I get a reply will post on Sheffield History 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Stevenson Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 12 hours ago, Roger Stevenson said: Good morning RLongden. I have written to find out the location of William Ibbitt's print. If I get a reply will post on Sheffield History I am told the print is in storage in London When time and opportunity permits, I'm going to find out who can help to bring the print to Sheffield for display in a Sheffield gallery. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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