Arif Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Evening all, My great grandfather was listed in the 1911 census as 5 Court 8 House Furnace Hill. I can see where Furnace Hill is on the map but I don't see any houses on it. Can anyone help please? Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopman Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Try the National library of Scotland website https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18.6&lat=53.38610&lon=-1.47333&layers=168&b=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Furnace Hill in top left. Ordnance Survey Map, sheet no. Yorkshire No. 294.8.11. 1890 https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;q00080&pos=55&action=zoom&id=152246 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 White's directory, published 1911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Circa 1890 https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arif Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 Thank you all, that's a great help Much appreciated as ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Rear of No. 6 and 1 in Court No. 8 Furnace Hill. 1929. u00731 All Photographs, City Engineers Department. Nos. 5,6 and 1 Court No. 8 Furnace Hill. u00726 No. 7 House in Court No. 8 Furnace Hill. 1927.u00724 Back of Nos.18 and 20 Court No. 2 Furnace Hill. 1930. u00735 Entrance to John Tonks and Co. and Nos. 48-56 Furnace Hill. 1927.u00722 No. 74, The Grapes Inn, Furnace Hill with a sign for Little Man's Museum. s16176 The photograph has a sign outside the gate of the Grapes Inn for Little Man's Museum or Little Museum Man's - not recorded in any directory, may be a beer house in the Grapes Inn Yard or the premises next door. Furnace Hill Playground. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s03998&pos=25&action=zoom&id=7567 There are other photographs of Furnace Hill on the Picture Sheffield website: https://picturesheffield.com Building Lots on Furnace Hill, c. 1778-1788. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc03080&pos=67&action=zoom&id=97977 The western end of Furnace Hill nearest Thomas Bryant's Meeting House, subdivided for buildings; tenants; measurements; rents. Furnace Hill - Lots demised to the occupiers by the Duke of Norfolk, Samuel Shore, and Thomas Broadbent https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc04110&pos=70&action=zoom&id=103696 The plan is mainly in the handwriting of the second William, who died in 1801. Names marked: Joshua Ball, Sylvanus Betts, George Binks, Thomas Broadbent, Robert Broomhead, Thomas Bryant, Thomas Bryant's Meeting House [corner of Scotland Street], John Cockayne, John Cocker, John Cowen, Samuel Doncaster, Mary Edwards, John Eyre, Jacob Fenton, George Fletcher, Joshua Fowler’s heirs, Ann Fox, Thomas Goddard, David Goodnorth, Widow Greaves, Thomas Hardy, John Jennings, George Loxley, John Matthews, John Morton, Sarah Morton, Robert Pinder, Robert Radcliff, Thomas Robinson, John Shore, James Smith, John Stacey, Joseph Swift, Thomas Watson, William Walton, and Edward Windle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Snippets of information about Furnace Hill from an extract of: Reminiscences of old Sheffield, it's Street and its People. From letters Editor Robert Eadon Leader, from articles and letters in The Sheffield and Rotherham Independent 1872/3. Pages 129-131. Twiss: There is a curious story told of the manner in which the further part of Westbar was raised to its present level. At one time, it is said, that portion between Westbar Green and Gibraltar Street was so low, that a person standing at the bottom of Furnace Hill might with ease have leapt upon a load of hay passing down the street. There was then a converting furnace at the bottom of the hill, which was worked with only one box or pot. By some mismanagement the whole mass of iron was melted together in one huge solid block of steel, there being in the furnace at the time some ten tons of metal. Nothing could be done with this when it was cold, and after it had lain in the yard a great number of years, proceedings began to be taken for filling up the road below. The best employment that could be thought of for the mass of steel, was to let it go towards filling up the road. The tradition has been handed down by very old men, and if there be any truth in it the steel is still there, waiting to astonish some antiquaries of the future. Wragg: The Bower Spring troughs were reputed to contain the best drinking water in the town. It came from Furnace Hill, as was proved when Messrs. Hudson & Clarke erected their engine. That stopped the water, and Messrs. Gaunt & Turton's works were then built where the troughs had been. Johnson: It was Mr. Turton who built the Bower Spring works in the old Workhouse gardens, leaving Mr. Gaunt on Furnace Hill. This would be between the years 1825-8. The history of Mr. Gaunt 's business is worth tracing. It was sold to Richard Griffiths, who, having come to the town from his native Wales as a carter to Brittain and Wilkinson's, of Carver Street, got initiated into the mysteries of steel converting, and ultimately became manager at Sanderson's. His son, for whom the business was intended, died; his son-in-law let it slip, and it was sold to Thomas Gatley, the son of a gardener at Attercliffe who had kept one of the stalls on the King Street side of the market. Young Gatley was himself apprenticed to Isaac Deakin, penblade maker (son-in-law of George Merrill, fork maker, Harvest Lane), and afterwards had a scrap shop in Gibraltar Street, near "The Cherry Tree." Then he was at the bottom of Furnace Hill, late Mr. Joshua Wortley's. Having acquired money, he bought Gaunt's business, and subsequently sold it to Mr. Wm. Jackson, Sheaf Island Works. He acquired much of the property about here. Like so many other worthies whom we have had to notice, Mr. Gatley was connected with Queen Street Chapel — until 1834, when he seceded and was the means of establishing Mount Zion Chapel, the congregation of which met in a room over a shop in Carver Lane while the chapel was building. Leighton: Furnace Hill was formerly called "t' Cock Tail;" I haven't the remotest notion why. "The Cock Tail Lady" was celebrated by Mather; and "Buck Hathard," the son of a tailor, was also one of the "characters" it produced. Mr. Peech, a scissor manufacturer here, was the father-in law of Henry Steel, who has made himself a name among the frequenters of the turf, and "t' Cocktail" had the honour of contributing a soldier to the Life Guards in the person of Samuel Wragg, who, and his son as well, was a cutler here. Wragg: The Quaker family, the Broadheads, have been associated with Westbar and the neighbourhood throughout the present century. Mr. John Broadhead, then a maltster, was in Scotland Street, next door to the chapel. Then he came to the bottom of Furnace Hill, subsequently crossing to the other side of Westbar, where the grocer's shop has been ever since. Mr. John Broadhead died in 1838. It is a little singular that not only did his son Alfred succeed to his own grocery business, but that four of his five daughters married grocers. Johnson: Two trade notes may be made here. One is that "frame polishing" may be said to have had its birth in Furnace Hill — that is polishing spring knives without the aid of steam or water power. It was originated by l Mark Blackwell (landlord of "The Grapes") and his brother George, by way of resisting a strike of the grinders. And it succeeded too. The other is that the first nail cut in Sheffield is said to have been made down the yard by the "Dog and Partridge the old public-house almost opposite to the bottom of the hill. Wragg: The Andrew family is closely identified with this locality. Old Joseph Andrew was a prosperous grocer and tallow chandler in Furnace Hill before this century began. Three of his sons, Isaac, Matthew and Joseph, were grocers, the first-named in West bar at the corner of Hicks Lane, the second in Charles Street, and the third, first (1825) in Paradise Square and afterwards (1833) in West Bar Green. Two other sons, twins, were William Henry and Albert George. They succeeded to the business of Messrs. George Butler and Co., spring knife cutlers, in Trinity Street, which was afterwards removed to Trinity Works, Eyre Street, the old premises becoming Mr. Longden's foundry. Isaac Andrew was, in his later years, blind. His brother Joseph was the father of John Henry Andrew, steel manufacturer, a member of the present Corporation, and of Mrs. Crowther, Fargate. The Butlers employed a larger number of men than any other house in the trade when the "statements" of 1810 and 1814 were made. 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Ponytail Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Link to: Little Man's Museum /Grapes Inn, Furnace Lane. https://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/topic/12408-little-mans-museum-grapes-inn-furnace-ln/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Hopefully this has saved. Furnace Hill, West Bar, South Yorkshire, Archaeological Excavations Assesment Report. https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:EU:96811354-2d75-43c7-ba55-1d425eb600af 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arif Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 On 29/01/2024 at 22:30, Ponytail said: Rear of No. 6 and 1 in Court No. 8 Furnace Hill. 1929. u00731 All Photographs, City Engineers Department. Nos. 5,6 and 1 Court No. 8 Furnace Hill. u00726 No. 7 House in Court No. 8 Furnace Hill. 1927.u00724 Back of Nos.18 and 20 Court No. 2 Furnace Hill. 1930. u00735 Entrance to John Tonks and Co. and Nos. 48-56 Furnace Hill. 1927.u00722 No. 74, The Grapes Inn, Furnace Hill with a sign for Little Man's Museum. s16176 The photograph has a sign outside the gate of the Grapes Inn for Little Man's Museum or Little Museum Man's - not recorded in any directory, may be a beer house in the Grapes Inn Yard or the premises next door. Furnace Hill Playground. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s03998&pos=25&action=zoom&id=7567 There are other photographs of Furnace Hill on the Picture Sheffield website: https://picturesheffield.com Building Lots on Furnace Hill, c. 1778-1788. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc03080&pos=67&action=zoom&id=97977 The western end of Furnace Hill nearest Thomas Bryant's Meeting House, subdivided for buildings; tenants; measurements; rents. Furnace Hill - Lots demised to the occupiers by the Duke of Norfolk, Samuel Shore, and Thomas Broadbent https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc04110&pos=70&action=zoom&id=103696 The plan is mainly in the handwriting of the second William, who died in 1801. Names marked: Joshua Ball, Sylvanus Betts, George Binks, Thomas Broadbent, Robert Broomhead, Thomas Bryant, Thomas Bryant's Meeting House [corner of Scotland Street], John Cockayne, John Cocker, John Cowen, Samuel Doncaster, Mary Edwards, John Eyre, Jacob Fenton, George Fletcher, Joshua Fowler’s heirs, Ann Fox, Thomas Goddard, David Goodnorth, Widow Greaves, Thomas Hardy, John Jennings, George Loxley, John Matthews, John Morton, Sarah Morton, Robert Pinder, Robert Radcliff, Thomas Robinson, John Shore, James Smith, John Stacey, Joseph Swift, Thomas Watson, William Walton, and Edward Windle. Blimey, grim doesn't even touch it does it! How those folk got by is unbelievable by todays standards. Thanks for uploading these photos, it's much appreciated. Considering it's a very narrow street it must have been permanently gloomy and disease must have been rife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arif Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 I got my wires crossed with the blessed court system! It was 8 Court 5 House. Have I read that correctly? James died only two years later aged just 38. Such a short life but no surprise really give such living conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arif Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 On 30/01/2024 at 07:12, Ponytail said: Hopefully this has saved. Furnace Hill, West Bar, South Yorkshire, Archaeological Excavations Assesment Report. https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:EU:96811354-2d75-43c7-ba55-1d425eb600af This is very interesting, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Arif said: This is very interesting, thank you! 1 hour ago, Arif said: Blimey, grim doesn't even touch it does it! How those folk got by is unbelievable by todays standards. Thanks for uploading these photos, it's much appreciated. Considering it's a very narrow street it must have been permanently gloomy and disease must have been rife. Bear in mind these photos are taken just before demolition. No doubt when your relatives lived there, they kept inside as clean as possible. Yes, Court 8 House 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arif Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Ponytail said: Bear in mind these photos are taken just before demolition. No doubt when your relatives lived there, they kept inside as clean as possible. Yes, Court 8 House 5. That's a good point, thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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