Crimean War Veterans

[ManoutotCity]

3 hours ago, Ponytail said:

The Charge of the Light Brigade - Crimean War. 

By The History Chap. 

 

Semantics…you won’t gallop a horse up much of a hill if the definition of the pace aspect of ‘a charge’ is ‘galloping’! However, it’s surely clear that was the intended pace whether practical or not, as the penetrating/ enveloping ( brilliant ) tactics of the Dragoon Guards later deployed, illustrated so well…routing I think we may assume at the gallop, their  otherwise overwhelming Russian  counterparts. Indeed even the self -appointed ‘History Chap’ (‘ presumably prayed in aid’ of the ‘charge’  argument) appears not to be able to make his own mind up what   to call the ‘advance of ‘The Heavies’!

Be that as it may, an interesting parallel arises concerning ANY ‘charging’ body in any depth ( be it cavalry or even infantry)….for, until (even a downhill attack) has gathered its intended ‘shock momentum’, even though the leading ranks may well be  travelling at ‘full pelt’….or quickly gathering speed to achieve that   .…there maybe…indeed WILL be, ranks following in a formation where men (and in the case of cavalry, animals), are still advancing at the walk, trot or canter….indeed, themselves,  quite possibly, not even entering a galloping stage  before an enemy is overwhelmed/ neutralised……

[Ponytail]

"A charge is an offensive manoeuvre in battle in which combatants advance towards their enemy at their best speed in an attempt to engage in a decisive close combat. The charge is the dominant shock attack and has been the key tactic and decisive moment of many battles throughout history."

[ManoutotCity]

1 hour ago, Ponytail said:

"A charge is an offensive manoeuvre in battle in which combatants advance towards their enemy at their best speed in an attempt to engage in a decisive close combat. The charge is the dominant shock attack and has been the key tactic and decisive moment of many battles throughout history."

Couldn’t have put it better, succinctly, myself but sometimes these things need development for the uninitiated …

[Ponytail]

The men, assigned to the 5 Regiments which participated in the Charge of the Heavy Brigade, who ManoutotCity quite rightly wants remembered equally as the Light Brigade, have their details recorded in a publication:

Forgotten Heroes, The Charge of the Heavy Brigade, by Roy Dutton first published 2008.

Recorded alphabetically in their respective Regiments, Army No.; Rank, Service Record from Muster Rolls; (shows whether they took part in the Charge and Muster from the hospital at Scutari), Discharge Books; Medal Rolls and any other information where known. 

Obviously some are more documented than others. 

There is an Alphabetical Name Index including all the 5 Regiments:

The 1st Dragoons "The Royals"; The 2nd Dragoons "The Scots Greys"; The 4th Dragoon Guards "The Royal Irish"; The 5th Dragoon Guards "Princess Charlotte of Wales's"; The 6th Dragoon Guards "Inniskilling". 

Making easier to find the name you're looking for. 

 

[ManoutotCity]

On 08/12/2023 at 20:40, Ponytail said:

The men, assigned to the 5 Regiments which participated in the Charge of the Heavy Brigade, who ManoutotCity quite rightly wants remembered equally as the Light Brigade, have their details recorded in a publication:

Forgotten Heroes, The Charge of the Heavy Brigade, by Roy Dutton first published 2008.

Recorded alphabetically in their respective Regiments, Army No.; Rank, Service Record from Muster Rolls; (shows whether they took part in the Charge and Muster from the hospital at Scutari), Discharge Books; Medal Rolls and any other information where known. 

Obviously some are more documented than others. 

There is an Alphabetical Name Index including all the 5 Regiments:

The 1st Dragoons "The Royals"; The 2nd Dragoons "The Scots Greys"; The 4th Dragoon Guards "The Royal Irish"; The 5th Dragoon Guards "Princess Charlotte of Wales's"; The 6th Dragoon Guards "Inniskilling". 

Making easier to find the name you're looking for. 

 

Yes, Dutton’s book, one of a small series of in-depth, reviews of famous engagements,  is very good for anyone sufficiently interested.