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In August 1936, Sheffield citizens who, as part of the slum clearance programme, were moving into the new Sheffield Council estates were asked to take part in a referendum. They  were offered the opportunity to vote as to whether they wanted public houses to be built on their estate.

In favour were: Arbourthorne, Manor,  Shiregreen,  Woodthorpe and Wybourn.

Against were:  High Wincobank, Longley and Norwood, Stubbin and Brushes and Wisewood.

I would be interested in any memories from this vote.

Sheffield (Municipal Housing Estates) Referendum Committee (1).jpg

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History dude

Malcom Mercer did a piece on this in a Manor Memories booklet in May 1997.

It all started with the ruling in 1928 that there shall be no licensed premises on any Council housing developments. A few years later a vote was defeated that would have allowed them.

A committee was appointed and referendum followed in 1936, except for Woodthorpe (45%) turnout was never above 27%.

The result was the Council would allow ONE on each estate, but since they would cost £55K to build, decide to provide only the land and lease only.  Rules were set down though, tables not a bar, food, beer from two breweries. Good tenants and toilets!! 

The outcome for the Manor was the Manor Hotel in 1939.

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lysandernovo

I grew up on Shiregreen ( Low Shire) which when built was one of the biggest  housing estates in Europe. With the exception of the "Penguin" ( which was built in the 50/60s) all of the pubs were on the periphery of the estate...meaning, for some, a nice long walk after a night out!

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DavePick

The referendum occurred on Tuesday 18th.August 1936:

In favour: Arbourthorne, Manor,  Shiregreen,  Woodthorpe and Wybourn

Against: High Wincobank, Longley and Norwood, Stubbin and Brushes and Wisewood

 

for

against

majority

No.voters

Turnout

 

Arbourthorne

584

92

+492

2539

26%

High Wincobank

91

146

-55

1667

14%

Longley and Norwood

465

595

-130

4237

25%

Manor

1097

595

+502

7182

23%

Shiregreen

868

750

+118

8907

18%

Stubbin and Brushes

176

288

-112

2900

16%

Wisewood

59

198

-139

1844

13%

Woodthorpe

749

68

+681

1863

61%

Wybourn

361

93

+268

3065

14%

Of the 34,204 entitled to vote, only 7,275 voted (21.3%). Woodthorpe produced a turnout of 61%, the rest averaged under 20%. 

figures from:   Daily Independent  20th.August 1936  page 4

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DavePick

I'm trying to work out the six pubs which resulted from this referendum:

Arbourthorne - Arbourthorne Hotel

Manor - Manor Hotel

Parson Cross - Parson Cross Hotel

Shiregreen - Shiregreen Hotel ? 

Woodthorpe - Richmond Hotel ? Woodthorpe Hotel?

Wyborn - Windsor Hotel ? 

any ideas? 

 

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lysandernovo

The Shiregreen Hotel until the opening , post War, of the Penguin was the sole pub actually on the large estate...even so, both were on the extremities with the former scarcely being on the estate!

As an aside, I note that turnout in the poll was extremely low...a bit like current local elections.!

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