Dave ... Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I'm trying to identify the pub in the (slightly rambling) story below. I've tried the trade directories via Sheffield Indexers, but not had any success. Any suggestions ? TIA Dave. Sheffield And Rotherham Independent, November 27, 1858. Magisterial Proceedings Sheffield. Friday.—Present: R. Bayley, H. Wilkinson, S. Butcher, and E. Vickers, Esqrs. ALLEGED CASE OF STABBING. Thomas Wheelhouse, aged 46 years, presser, Cricket road, Park, was charged with stabbing Mr. Isaac Marples, of Monmouth street. Mr. Marples stated that last evening, about seven o'clock, he went into the kitchen of Mr. Wheelhouse, publican, Broomhall street, to see a relative who was leaving for America. The prisoner entered, and charged him with insulting his wife. He wanted to pass out, but prisoner pushed him upon the sofa. He pushed prisoner aside in a further attempt to escape, when prisoner took a knife out of his pocket, and struck at him. He put out his hand to ward the stroke, and he received a severe gash in one of his thumbs. Thereupon, he seized prisoner, threw him on the floor, and afterwards gave him in charge to a policeman ..... Mr. Wheelhouse, publican, said he entered the room when Mr. Marples had his brother down, and saw nothing of any knife. A pane of glass in the door had been broken, and he thought the wound had been caused by the glass .... Sarah Gouldham, the maid servant, who entered the room just before her master, saw no knife, and none was found upon the prisoner when he was given in charge ..... Prisoner denied having had or used any knife. He stated that prosecutor had offered to treat his wife with gin, enjoining her not to tell her husband. She drank water, and did tell him; and it was on this account he spoke to prosecutor ...... Mr. Marples offered to call prisoner's wife, who was in Court, to prove that he did not insult her .... Mr. Smith said, that [it] could not be done. It looked rather ***** that he should attempt to call the wife to give evidence against her own husband. The Magistrates would probably do well to bind both parties over to keep the peace .... Mr. Wheelhouse (publican) said both Mr. Marples and his brother were intoxicated. After some further conversation, prisoner was, at the suggestion of prosecutor, discharged on promising not to meddle with prosecutor again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 After years and years of Sheffield old pub research I'm sorry to say I don't have my spreadsheet to hand ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Hi Dave Looking through the pubs on Broomhall Street there's the Albert 113 Broomhall Street Barley Mow 99 Broomhall Street Bath 139 Broomhall Stret Broomhall House 49 Broomhall Street None of which we have a keeper for 1858 unless the pub in question comes under beerhouse. There is the Broomhall Tavern but we have a landlord for that in 1858 but his name is not Wheelhouse. We will find him maybe under beerhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ... Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 We will find him maybe under beerhouse. Many thanks. Some further clues: Sheffield Daily Telegraph, 25 September 1856 - WANTED, a Strong, active YOUNG WOMAN, in a Public-house, as SERVANT.-Inquire at BATH COTTAGE, 125, Broomhall-street. Sheffield Independent, 31 July 1858 - Transfer of Public House Licenses ... Bath Cottage, Broomhall St., from Charles Beckett to Wm. Wheelhouse. Sheffield Independent, 19 May 1860 - Transfer of Licenses ... Bath Cottage, Broomhall street, from Wm. Wheelhouse to Wm. Gill, of Nether Hall, publican. Sheffield Independent, 27 October 1860 - mention of a Bath Cottage Hotel, Broomhall street Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Bath Hotel, 139 Broomhall Street opened 1845, William Gill known there 1862. Many thanks. Some further clues: Sheffield Daily Telegraph, 25 September 1856 - WANTED, a Strong, active YOUNG WOMAN, in a Public-house, as SERVANT.-Inquire at BATH COTTAGE, 125, Broomhall-street. Sheffield Independent, 31 July 1858 - Transfer of Public House Licenses ... Bath Cottage, Broomhall St., from Charles Beckett to Wm. Wheelhouse. Sheffield Independent, 19 May 1860 - Transfer of Licenses ... Bath Cottage, Broomhall street, from Wm. Wheelhouse to Wm. Gill, of Nether Hall, publican. Sheffield Independent, 27 October 1860 - mention of a Bath Cottage Hotel, Broomhall street Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Looks to me like you've landed some new keepers, Thank you. Many thanks. Some further clues: Sheffield Daily Telegraph, 25 September 1856 - WANTED, a Strong, active YOUNG WOMAN, in a Public-house, as SERVANT.-Inquire at BATH COTTAGE, 125, Broomhall-street. Sheffield Independent, 31 July 1858 - Transfer of Public House Licenses ... Bath Cottage, Broomhall St., from Charles Beckett to Wm. Wheelhouse. Sheffield Independent, 19 May 1860 - Transfer of Licenses ... Bath Cottage, Broomhall street, from Wm. Wheelhouse to Wm. Gill, of Nether Hall, publican. Sheffield Independent, 27 October 1860 - mention of a Bath Cottage Hotel, Broomhall street Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Many thanks. Some further clues: Sheffield Daily Telegraph, 25 September 1856 - WANTED, a Strong, active YOUNG WOMAN, in a Public-house, as SERVANT.-Inquire at BATH COTTAGE, 125, Broomhall-street. Sheffield Independent, 31 July 1858 - Transfer of Public House Licenses ... Bath Cottage, Broomhall St., from Charles Beckett to Wm. Wheelhouse. Sheffield Independent, 19 May 1860 - Transfer of Licenses ... Bath Cottage, Broomhall street, from Wm. Wheelhouse to Wm. Gill, of Nether Hall, publican. Sheffield Independent, 27 October 1860 - mention of a Bath Cottage Hotel, Broomhall street Dave. There you go , you've found a bit more than we had on our list. Will update your information. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ... Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 Bath Hotel, 139 Broomhall Street opened 1845, William Gill known there 1862. Richard - many thanks. I've since traced: Hollingsworth, H. (~, Vict. Bath Hotel). Residing at 125 Broomhall Street, in 1871. Whites Shefffield & District Directory Does anyone know if the "Bath Cottage Hotel/Inn" (125 Broomhall Street) and "Bath Hotel" (139 Broomhall Street) were different establishments (or perhaps overlapped at some stage) ? Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Does anyone know if the "Bath Cottage Hotel/Inn" (125 Broomhall Street) and "Bath Hotel" (139 Broomhall Street) were different establishments (or perhaps overlapped at some stage) ? Both the same. Bath Cottage 1853 Bath Hotel 1890 Bath Hotel 1952 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ... Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 Both the same. Very good - Many thanks. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ... Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share Posted December 27, 2012 I've since discovered some interesting 'pub' twists to the original story ... one of Isaac's sons had a wife whose maiden name was PARSONAGE: 1876 Marriage - Albert MARPLES & Margaret PARSONAGE, Ecclesall Bierlow And her mother was Elizabeth nee MARPLES (b. Eckington ca 1829), as in: 1855 Marriage - John PARSONAGE & Elizabeth MARPLES, Sheffield 1861 Census - John PARSONAGE (Publican, Age 28) - 7 Angel Street, Sheffield 1871 Census - Elizabeth PARSONAGE (Innkeeper, 39) - Fleur de Lis, 58 Fargate, Sheffield 1881 Census - Elizabeth PARSONAGE (Licensed Victualler, 52) - Howard Hotel, 57 Howard Street, Sheffield John PARSONAGE died on 3 Sep 1868 (age 34) at Park Wood Springs in Sheffield, with "Effects under £3,000". And the following story, sadly, appears to refer to John's father - Isaac PARSONAGE (age 43) - in the Birmingham Gazette, 30 August 1852: "A lamentable suicide took place yesterday morning in Steelhouse-lane. As Police-constable Benbow was passing along Weaman-street, about five o'clock, he was called to the George and Dragon public house, where he found that the proprietor, Isaac Parsonage, had committed suicide by cutting his throat. The unfortunate man, it appears, had been unwell for some time, and it is supposed that temporary insanity led to the commission of the rash act." Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 licence transfer to Hector, Barry and John Parsonage, 1855. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Updated the ones we hadn't already got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ... Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 A few more stitches in the rich tapestry of life: Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette - Thursday 30 November 1843 "London, Wednesday, Nov. 29. London Gazette Tuesday Evening ... BANKRUPTS ... Isaac Parsonage, Birmingham, paper-hanger." Birmingham Gazette - Monday 6 March 1848 "Notices From The London Gazette. BANKRUPTS. From the Gazette Tuesday, Feb. 29. EXAMINATIONS OF INSOLVENTS. March 13. Hector Parsonage, Birmingham. Upholsterer, and broker, County Court, Birmingham." London Gazette - 9 May 1856 "NOTICE is hereby given, that the Partnership heretofore subsisting between us the undersigned, Hector Parsonage Barry and John Parsonage, carrying on business at Sheffield, in the county of York, as Wine and Spirit Merchants, under the style or firm of Barry and Parsonage, is this day dissolved by mutual consent. All debts due to and owing by the said firm will be received and paid by the said John Parsonage, who will in future carry on the said business on his own account.-Dated this 6th day of May, 1856. Hector P. Barry. John Parsonage." Hmm ... and a contested estate to boot ... Leamington Spa Courier - Saturday 4 August 1849 Parsonage (Hector), executor of Emma Parsonage v. Parsonage (Isaac) … An action to recover the sum of about £80. It appeared that the intestate having, by the sale of a house, of which she was tenant in common with her two brothers, come into possession, a short time before her death, of two cheques value £100 each, she made a distribution of the property in the following manner:-£l00 she absolutely gave to the defendant, Isaac Parsonage, who she said had always treated her kindly… With regard to the second cheque of £100, which she also placed in Isaac's hands, she said to him he must deduct from that sum whatever she might owe him, also discharge her funeral expenses from the same source, and her debts ; and as to the residue she said to him, "I should wish it to be divided between your brother Hector and sister, but that I leave to you, and if you like you can give your sister ten or twenty pounds more than your brother … the Judge stopped the case, and ordered the plaintiff to be nonsuited, being of opinion that the whole sum of £200 must be regarded in the light of an absolute gift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ... Posted December 30, 2012 Author Share Posted December 30, 2012 'He was not quite sober at the time' ... Sheffield Daily Telegraph - 24 December 1869: "Turning the Brandy Tap. - Joseph Dobbins, labourer, Mill-sands, was charged with stealing brandy, belonging to Mrs. Elizabeth Parsonage, landlady of the Fleur-de-Lis Inn, Angel-street. A daughter of the prosecutrix stated that on Monday night, the 20th inst., a little before 11 o'clock, she saw the prisoner enter the dramshop. He called for threepennyworth of port wine, which was supplied him. In two or three minutes afterwards the prisoner took up an empty glass from the counter, went to the brandy cask, and turned on the tap. Witness saw him draw about sixpenny worth of the liquor. Before he had time to drink it she promptly snatched the brandy from him. Sergeant Bennett was called in, and apprehended him. He was not quite sober at the time. Mr. Sugg, who defended the prisoner, urged that no theft had been committed. The man was under the influence of drink, and he submitted that the justice of the case was met by the punishment his client had already suffered from being incarcerated in the Town Hall cells. -Dobbins hoped the magistrates would be merciful, in consideration of his having obtained employment as a commission agent by a Birmingham firm. The magistrates fined the prisoner 5s. and costs for being drunk, and refusing to quit the public-house." Probate: "PARSONAGE Elizabeth. Personal Estate £861 8s. 10d. 13 October [1884]. The Will of Elizabeth Parsonage late of Sheffield in the County of York Widow who died 8 August 1884 at Sheffield was proved at Wakefield by Thomas Cocking of 102 Barker's-pool, Sheffield Cabinet Maker one of the Executors." Elizabeth was aged 55 when she died. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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