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Stuart0742

I called in at my local newsagents today to buy a copy of The Star.

Expecting to see a pile of them on the counter, but there were not, the lady pointed to the shelves near the door.

The reason The Star was not on the counter was because it is now classed as a "Morning Paper".

For some bizarre reason they can't have morning papers on the counter.

So a city the size of Sheffield no longer has a Evening Paper!

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Stuart0742

mmm, The Late Final edition of the morning paper, makes no sense.

Late Night Final is a term now banished to history in Sheffield

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If I remember rightly it's now published at 11 am and printed in Barnsley.

When I were nobbut a lad at my Gran's on a Saturday, the seller came round shouting 'Green or White'.

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Sorry, I was looking at a copy from 1943 ...

Late Night Final is a term now banished to history in Sheffield

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Has the world gone mad ? Barnsley ?

If I remember rightly it's now published at 11 am and printed in Barnsley.

When I were nobbut a lad at my Gran's on a Saturday, the seller came round shouting 'Green or White'.

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Ours arrives with the morning paper anytime from 7am - 8.15am. And has done for quite a while. Just not the same somehow.

Lyn

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Late Night Final is a term now banished to history in Sheffield

There used to be several editions of The Star daily, Morning Star, Evening Star and City Late depending on the time of day and also district editions like the Chesterfield Edition and Worksop Edition, probably a Barnsley Edition as well.

Now ot looks like like we are down to just one edition per day

Newspapers are becoming a thing of the past very rapidly and it is becoming increasingly difficult to sell them as most people can get news more conveniently on the Internet, and most papers have their own websites.

I say a news article on TV recently that said The Star, and several other newspapers, were part of the Johnsons Group of papers and they had run into financial problems which would affect newspaper production and that ultimately some newspapers would disappear altogether.

It could be the beginning of the end for The Star :(

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Ours arrives with the morning paper anytime from 7am - 8.15am. And has done for quite a while. Just not the same somehow.

Lyn

When I was a newspaper lad on the Arbourthorne in the late 60's - early 70's nobody had a morning Star.

Morning papers were a mixture of address specific deliveries of various National newspapers, magazines, kids comics, womens magazines etc. If anyone did have a local morning paper delivered, it wasn't The Star, it was the Telegraph.

Evening deliveries consisted of only 1 paper, about 50 - 60 copies to deliver and that was The Star, City Late edition.

On Saturdays we did a seperate round to deliver pre-ordered copies of The Green 'Un, but took extras out as we were often stopped in the street by blokes wanting to buy a copy off of us.

On Sunday mornings we took out just Sunday papers like News of the World etc, there was no local Sunday paper. Unfortunately for us the Sunday papers, due to extra suppliments, were big and heavy and frequently did not fit through peoples letterboxes without getting mangled up a bit.

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hilldweller

When I was a kid in the 1950's we used to walk down to Hillsborough Corner to listen to Tommy Lunny the newspaper seller.

He used to stand outside the Hillsborough Inn in his long white coat shouting "Late Night Final".

If sales were a bit slack he would shout nonsense items such as "Silent Explosion at Hillsborough" and "Unconscious Skeleton found at Rivelin".

He had a female relative who used to stand outside the corn mill at Malin Bridge selling papers. She was supposed to be his mother but didn't look any older than Tommy.

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ukelele lady

Ours arrives with the morning paper anytime from 7am - 8.15am. And has done for quite a while. Just not the same somehow.

Lyn

You can get the Star anytime after 7am now, it's been getting earlier and earlier for the past year obviously all planned

for the one morning edition.

When I worked in a newsagents some years ago there were the dinner time Star which arrived at the shop at 12 pm

Then the tea time Star which came at around 4 pm and then you got the late night final .

The paper boys and girls used to come straight from school to collect their bag of papers, how many of them are out of a

job now? There's not many of them too keen on the morning shift. :rolleyes:

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The paper boys and girls used to come straight from school to collect their bag of papers, how many of them are out of a

job now? There's not many of them too keen on the morning shift. :rolleyes:

Got out of school at 10 to 4, had to be at paper shop by half past, papers generally arrived around quarter to five.

Usually just done my round by about half 5 / quarter to six.

Morning papers you were expected by half 7 to quarter to 8.

Paper boy was the best job I've ever had, loved it, even in bad weather.

Did Mornings, Evenings, Green 'Uns and Sundays.

All for about £1.05 to £1.25 a week! (or 21/- to 25/- as it was at the time)

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There used to be several editions of The Star daily, Morning Star, Evening Star and City Late depending on the time of day and also district editions like the Chesterfield Edition and Worksop Edition, probably a Barnsley Edition as well.

Now ot looks like like we are down to just one edition per day

Newspapers are becoming a thing of the past very rapidly and it is becoming increasingly difficult to sell them as most people can get news more conveniently on the Internet, and most papers have their own websites.

I say a news article on TV recently that said The Star, and several other newspapers, were part of the Johnsons Group of papers and they had run into financial problems which would affect newspaper production and that ultimately some newspapers would disappear altogether.

It could be the beginning of the end for The Star :(

What a sad day that will be when you can't go down to the corner shop and buy a newspaper! I can't think of anything worse than reading the news from a screen on your lap or in the back room of your house hunched over your pc with your morning coffee. And imagine being snuggled up in bed reading Tolstoy or Dylan Thomas from a Kindle. Sacrilege!

The computer has its place, I'm using one now. But why do we allow them to take over and deprive us of some of the simple pleasures of life. Not me, I've drawn my line in the sand and no form of artificial intelligence will cross it.

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Times do change - Our newspaper 'boy ' is 70+ and does about 3 rounds. They just can't get the young staff nowadays.

Lyn

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Times do change - Our newspaper 'boy ' is 70+ and does about 3 rounds. They just can't get the young staff nowadays.

Lyn

I'm not quite 70 yet, but if it wasn't for other work with longer hours and correspondingly better pay I would still be happy to be a paper boy.

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What a sad day that will be when you can't go down to the corner shop and buy a newspaper! I can't think of anything worse than reading the news from a screen on your lap or in the back room of your house hunched over your pc with your morning coffee. And imagine being snuggled up in bed reading Tolstoy or Dylan Thomas from a Kindle. Sacrilege!

The computer has its place, I'm using one now. But why do we allow them to take over and deprive us of some of the simple pleasures of life. Not me, I've drawn my line in the sand and no form of artificial intelligence will cross it.

There is of course the environmental issues.

Paper production requires large areas of land taken up with slow to mature trees in order to provide us with vast quantities of the stuff

The inks and methods used in newsprint are toxic and messy

Then there is the problem of disposing of large amounts of waste old newspapers

Not exactly environmentally friendly, even though some people prefer the physical commodity of having "a paper" rather than its online virtual equivalent.

Likewise computers contain a lot of environmentally unpleasant materials and do run on electricity, which can be generated in both environmental and polluting ways.

Looks like this is "progress" and is the way things are going.

It's the same with recorded music.

Like everyone of my generation and older I was brought up on gramaphone records, be it 78, 45 or 33 and a third

I was begrudgingly forced to move, briefly, to tape cassette, which never sounded as good

Then, along came the CD, we had to use that as records and tapes disappeared from the shops, but it was good and eventually my CD collection grew to be larger than my record collection ever was, - as one friend once said to me "thanks to the CD there is more 60;s music available now than there was in the 60's!!! :unsure: "

But now to obtain music by digital download where there is no physical object associated with the music, - I don't like that idea at all.

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muddycoffee

Years ago I regularly got a newspaper, but nowadays I can't read any of the nationals because they tend to specialise in celebrity guff, as there is no need to report news with so many live news outlets. As for the star, it only has one possible reason to carry on and that is to report local issues. However you can get all those stories as they happen on local forums, and as bad as these local forums are, the spelling and grammar is frequently better than the star.

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I have a Kindle and I like it very much. When we go away I always take something to read, and with my Kindle I can take a whole library, so there's always something to suit my mood, and I don't finish everything by the third day!

I can also load up the old Sheffield books I've downloaded from t'internet and read them on my lap like a book rather than have to sit in front of my pc.

But I still enjoy having the real thing as well. Particularly the old stuff on Sheffield I get from eBay or a second-hand bookshop. I know I'm getting old, but I don't find modern books as satisfying to handle, they don't have the same feel somehow.

For me, local papers have missed the boat. They can't keep up with all the more immediate sources available nowadays, but I would have thought they could instead provide more in-depth coverage of matters of local concern. But interviews are few and far between, if at all, and instead of a challenging interview with a local politician, holding them to account, we get something apparently written by the politician, with no comment, questions or editorial input.

Even the letters column in the Telegraph is 50% letters from local councillors sniping and backbiting at each other. I do still read the Sheffield Telegraph, but I gave up on the Star a long time ago. Unlike my Gran and my Mum, I've never been interested in the "Hatched, matched and dispatched"!

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ukelele lady

Years ago I regularly got a newspaper, but nowadays I can't read any of the nationals because they tend to specialise in celebrity guff, as there is no need to report news with so many live news outlets. As for the star, it only has one possible reason to carry on and that is to report local issues. However you can get all those stories as they happen on local forums, and as bad as these local forums are, the spelling and grammar is frequently better than the star.

I must disagree with you there muddycoffee, if your paper is full of "celebrity guff " then you are buying the wrong newspaper.

The spelling and grammar better on the forums than the Star?? Wow. Have you ever been on Sheffield Forum?

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I must disagree with you there muddycoffee, if your paper is full of "celebrity guff " then you are buying the wrong newspaper.

The spelling and grammar better on the forums than the Star?? Wow. Have you ever been on Sheffield Forum?

My splling iznt better fhan The Star on fhis fhorum, an am supossed to be a teecher lol

(I think it's the late night posting after marking and consuming alcohol (for my nerves / stress levels / mental health) that has this effect on my spelling though.)

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My splling iznt better fhan The Star on fhis fhorum, an am supossed to be a teecher lol

(I think it's the late night posting after marking and consuming alcohol (for my nerves / stress levels / mental health) that has this effect on my spelling though.)

Come now Dave, teachers don't know the meaning of stress, the head of Ofsted says so. (Has there been a head of Ofsted since its foundation that wasn't a total (insert expletive of your choice) ?)

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Come now Dave, teachers don't know the meaning of stress, the head of Ofsted says so. (Has there been a head of Ofsted since its foundation that wasn't a total (insert expletive of your choice) ?)

Ministers of particular Government departments never seem to know much about the department they are in charge of do they.

Although its name has changed the "Department of Education and Science", known as the D.E.S. was always referred to by teachers as the "Department of Excitement and Suspense" because you never knew what rubbish they were going to come out with next.

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Stuart0742

I have the Star from 6th May 1960 in front of me (just arrived, will have to have a word with our paper lad)

it has the horse racing results for the 4:30 race at Kempton in it.

Now that's an evening paper :rolleyes:

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Take it back to your newsagents, see how long you can keep a straight face while you complain about the delivery times.

Then in a week or so you'll be able to take back the 1935 Green 'Un.

I have the Star from 6th May 1960 in front of me (just arrived, will have to have a word with our paper lad)

it has the horse racing results for the 4:30 race at Kempton in it.

Now that's an evening paper :rolleyes:

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