RichardS Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Not quite Sheffield centre, but Totley, Derbyshire, image from 1841 census: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Not quite Sheffield centre, but Totley, Derbyshire, image from 1841 census: Got me beat with both of them. Well found and evidence too; shame about no name for the second one, but, outlying districts may be the way of the future, or indeed the past ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Green Oaks mentioned on here : http://www.silverserviceconsultancy.co.uk/totley_history_group/2008/0807/Full%20Pages/p315Page02.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Greenoak House, Baslow Road, Totley At the time of the photographs (about 1900), rented from Ebenezer Hall of Abbeydale Park, by Athol Capron and family. The house was formerly a Farm and Greenoak Inn. Converted and extended into a family residence in the late c19th. See 'Totley District in Old Photographs', by Brian Edwards, Cat. No. 942.74 S. Mickley Lane, Totley, with a view of the buildings on Baslow Road including Greenoak House (the former Greenoak Inn). The smaller part in the middle was the original Greenoak Inn, built 1812. The extension on the right was added much later when it became Greenoak House. The part on the left was added early 1900's. s11439 The family of Athol Capron (consisting of his wife, 4 children and donkey) moved into Greenoak House in 1899, paying £90 p.a. rent to Ebenezer Hall of Abbeydale Park. Greenoak House from Baslow Road. s06092 Family of Athol Capron in Humber car at Greenoak House, Maurice (front seat), John (behind), Clare (on lap) and Gérard. 1906. s09007 From Donkey Field. Mrs. Capron and Maurice.s06089 Greenoak House from Baslow Road. A. C. Capron, Maurice (son) and Roy (dog) with village boys.s06087 Mr and Mrs Athol Capron with children, Maurice (with Roy the dog) and either John or Gerard in pram. s06088 In the yard, Greenoak House, Mr and Mrs Athol Capron with children- Gerard? in Father's arms. Maurice with the garden boy and Roy the dog.s06090 Mr Athol Capron, Maurice (son) and Roy the dog. 1906.s06091 General View of Greenoak and Heatherfield, Totley, leading to Main Avenue, before houses were built.s11438 Early construction of Heatherfield Estate, Baslow Road, Totley Rise. The Crescent, left. Greenoak Toll House is behind the telegraph pole. y01872 Photographer: R Sneath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 This map may help to identify the other public house recorded on the 1841 Census. Plan of estates situate in the townships of Totley and Dore belonging to E. Hall. 1879. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc06557&pos=8&action=zoom&id=105407 Copied from the Ordnance Survey by George Sampson and Son, Beauchief Abbey, Sheffield. Marked; Oldhay Brook, Akley Bank, Hillfoot [Hill Foot], Crown Inn, Totley, Cross Scythes Hotel, The Folds, Fleur de Lys, Greenoak House, Greenoak T.P. [?Turnpike] [Green Oak Road], Totley Brook, Grove Cottage, Grove Lodge, quarry, mill pond, Rolling Mill, Clay Wood, Abbey Dale Road [Abbeydale Road], River Sheaf, sluice, Westview Cottage, fish pond, Brinkburn Grange, Poynton Wood, and Woodlands [house] Abbeydale Road. It is possible it could be the "Crown Inn" "Cross Scythes" "Fleur de Lis" or one of the cottages around the Rolling Mill. Viewing the pages either side of the entry and the "enumerators walk" would probably be helpful. Perhaps the 1851 Census would help further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Green Oak House, Totley History Group. https://www.totleyhistorygroup.org.uk/life-in-totley/places/greenoak-house/ What lovely memories John T Capron recalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 The other public house was probably Cross Scythes. Information from Sheffield History A-Z Public Houses. Cross Scythes. Baslow Road, Totley Rise. Open 1818. 1818 Samuel Hopkinson 1828/29 Samuel Hopkinson 1833 Samuel Hopkinson 1836 Thomas Fisher Census1841.... Thomas Fisher 1846 John Thorpe 1854 John Wagstaff 1856 John Wagstaffe 1865 Job Green 1868 Thomas Brown 1876 James Bonn 1879 Thomas Brown 1883 Thomas Brown 1888 Thomas Brown 1889 Thomas Brown 1890 Thomas Brown 1891 Thomas Brown 1893 Joseph North 1895/6 Matthew Shepherd 1896 James William Marples 1898 James William Marples 1900 James William Marples 1901 George Johnson 1902 George Johnson [ Old Cross Scythes ] 1903 George Johnson 1905 Thomas Carrington 1907 Arthur Thorpe 1910 W. H. Holder 1911 George Reeves 1912 George Thomas Reeves 1913 George Thomas Reeves 1916 Edward Sheridan 1917 Mrs Gertrude Swallow 1919 to 1923 Mrs Gertrude Swallow 1923 Mrs Gertrude Swallow 1924 William Sidney Hall 1925 William Sidney Hall 1929 to 1933 Charles Frederick Scott 1936 to 1939 Charles Frederick Scott 1944 John Fearnley 1948 Joseph Fearnley 1951 William Edwards Cross Scythes Hotel, Baslow Road, Totley. At the time of this photograph, the pub sign is 'The Old Cross Scythes Hotel' Date Period. 1900-1919w00300 Cross Scythes Hotel, Baslow Road, Totley. 1979. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s21593&pos=2&action=zoom&id=24192 Further info: In 1956 a Roman Catholic Mass centre was establised at the Cross Scythes Hotel and used until a chapel of ease, dedicated to the English Martyrs, was opened in 1966! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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