RichardB Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Recently off the phone with Trefcon, he reminded me of a beerhouse missing from our lists (he mentioned it a long time ago when we met in person). So the hunt is on for the "Alderney Cow" beerhouse, Moonshine Lane or thereabouts, year(s) not known. May be mentioned on the back of an Alan Godfrey map of the area. Keepers/location sought. Happy Hunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trefcon Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Hi Richard, its in with the local history blurb on the Sheffield (Hillsborough) 1902 Sheet 288.15 map by Godfrey. 'At Southey Green can be seen the Traveller's Rest, described by the local historian Henry Tatton as the only pub in Sheffield lit by paraffin lamps, and opposite was a beerhouse with the splendid name of the Alderney Cow' Dean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 Via the Travellers in 1901 Census then ... George Bradshaw had the Travellers back then. Ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neddy Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Map age not known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Map age not known. 1855 ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trefcon Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I cant believe that, i've looked at that map over the years, spotted the 'Travellers' all the time but never spotted the words 'Alderney Cow' !! There is an old stone building right on the corner, now a carpet shop, i wonder if that was it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neddy Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Two Publicans in the area,Elijah Staniforth-according to historical directories at the Travellers Inn, backed up by 1851 census, 2335-319-no pub name William Badger publican on 1851 census, 2335-318- no pub name both under Southey. Bill Badger, Ruperts mate lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I cant believe that, i've looked at that map over the years, spotted the 'Travellers' all the time but never spotted the words 'Alderney Cow' !! There is an old stone building right on the corner, now a carpet shop, i wonder if that was it ? <iframe width="562" height="314" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" src="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&layer=c&cbll=53.41848,-1.480636&panoid=Rwp72eilPb4jfhCfbEOMwg&cbp=13,117.68,,1,-3.42&ll=53.416923,-1.480633&spn=0,0.00603&z=17&source=embed&output=svembed"></iframe><br /><small><a href="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&layer=c&cbll=53.41848,-1.480636&panoid=Rwp72eilPb4jfhCfbEOMwg&cbp=13,117.68,,1,-3.42&ll=53.416923,-1.480633&spn=0,0.00603&z=17&source=embed" style="color:#0000FF;text-align:left">View Larger Map</a></small> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 I cant believe that, i've looked at that map over the years, spotted the 'Travellers' all the time but never spotted the words 'Alderney Cow' !! There is an old stone building right on the corner, now a carpet shop, i wonder if that was it ? Is the Travellers the one I have listed as "Southy, Wadsley Bridge" please ? Can't see it being any of the other possibilities. Snig Hill Southy, Wadsley Bridge Thompson Hill, High Green 286 Ecclesfield Common Deepcar 208 High Street, Attercliffe 72 Penistone Road, Wadsley Bridge 784 Attercliffe Road 82 Newhall Street Broomhill Oxspring Wharncliffe Side 67 Scotland Street Vaughton Hill, Stocksbridge 106 Broad Street 135 South Street, Moor 406 Langsett Road, S6, 426 Langsett Road Brightside 535 City Road, S 293 Langsett Road South, Oughtibridge Cricket Road Deep Pits, Intake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 Two Publicans in the area,Elijah Staniforth-according to historical directories at the Travellers Inn, backed up by 1851 census, 2335-319-no pub name William Badger publican on 1851 census, 2335-318- no pub name both under Southey. Bill Badger, Ruperts mate I have Elijah Staniforth down on my list at Travellers, Southy, Wadsley Bridge in 1854 (just for everyone's information) also "E Staniforth" in 1865 - best get looking at 1861 census then. 1851 Census would push back known opening date by 3 years. Plenty of known keepers if it helps, I can list what I've got for Travellers (40 or so keepers- over the years) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trefcon Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Thats the one Steve. Bayleaf is going through the 'Tatton' stuff, wonder if 'Tatton' sketched it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neddy Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I have Elijah Staniforth down on my list at Travellers, Southy, Wadsley Bridge in 1854 (just for everyone's information) also "E Staniforth" in 1865 - best get looking at 1861 census then. 1851 Census would push back known opening date by 3 years. Plenty of known keepers if it helps, I can list what I've got for Travellers (40 or so keepers- over the years) Picture Sheffield Ref No:s07049 Title: Travellers' Rest, Southey Green Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 Some Census images which may, or may not, be relevant sent to Steve via email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl1867 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Some Census images which may, or may not, be relevant sent to Steve via email. There you go Rich down the bottom Brewster Sessions 7 September 1844 A Badger in a Cow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl1867 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 There you go Rich down the bottom Brewster Sessions 7 September 1844 A Badger in a Cow! And refused on 21-7-1844 Southey's always been a bit rough then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Some Census images which may, or may not, be relevant sent to Steve via email. Elijah Staniforth 1861 census, Mary (wife) ???? and Publican, Southey Green. 1851 Essabella (?) (Widow) Naylor, Inn keeper - unknown Elizabeth Staniland (Widow), Inn keeper - unknown William Hammond, Son, 35, Furniss man then ??? Inn ??? Appears to by Southy, pub not known ============================================================= George Turner - pushes this back from 1854 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 There you go Rich down the bottom Brewster Sessions 7 September 1844 A Badger in a Cow! By George, you've cracked it ! A persons name, a date, a premises name and a date - we've got ourselves a new (old) one ! Well done all ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trefcon Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Just to add for interest, just got back from LocaL Studies and they had nowt on the 'Alderney Cow', found a mention of the 'Travellers' though, in the late twenties early thirties the landlord transferred his license to the newly built Magnet across the road. Dean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trefcon Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Another one. There was a beerhouse located in one of the 'Pear Tree Cottages.' These were on the small lane leading to Shire Green Chuch School at the top of Bellhouse road. I'm sure there was an image of the cottage and owners in one of the 'Shiregreen' books. (Dunsby might have these). Looks like the cottages were there in 1902, re Godfrey Longley Sheet 288.16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl1867 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Another one. There was a beerhouse located in one of the 'Pear Tree Cottages.' These were on the small lane leading to Shire Green Chuch School at the top of Bellhouse road. I'm sure there was an image of the cottage and owners in one of the 'Shiregreen' books. (Dunsby might have these). Looks like the cottages were there in 1902, re Godfrey Longley Sheet 288.16 Yes Dean there is - No 4 Pear Tree Cottages on Pear Tree Lane in front of the school and the Co-op Laundry- can't see reference to a name or a keeper though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 Fork Making at Shiregreen Pear Tree Lane mentioned here, possible leads regarding street names/people ... From Sheffield Indexers site (Elaine from Sheffield Indexers has recently been in touch (via email), we used to banter a bit online at Sheffield Indexers some years ago; nice to hear from her again - maybe we can help each other along; I've sent a link to the Sheffield Scrapbook for her amusement). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I have Elijah Staniforth down on my list at Travellers, Southy, Wadsley Bridge in 1854 (just for everyone's information) also "E Staniforth" in 1865 - best get looking at 1861 census then. 1851 Census would push back known opening date by 3 years. Plenty of known keepers if it helps, I can list what I've got for Travellers (40 or so keepers- over the years) Come on then Richard , share the rest of the known keepers with us because we only have twenty something on the A to Z. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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