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In the May 21st 1850 edition of the Derbyshire Mercury there is a notice advertising the Sale of the Estate of Samuel Shaw of Norton Hall.

One of the Many Lots up for Sale is The Lay Rectory of Norton with the Chancel of Norton Parish Church, or such part as belonged to the said Samuel Shaw, thereof and a rent charge of £14 per Annum upon lands in the Parish of Norton in lieu of Rectorial Tythes.

Just out of interest can any one explain how this arrangement worked, ie did the Shaws own the Chancel?

Also any info on the following Lots in the Sale.

A Brick yard with Dwelling House and Brick Kilns thereon at Meadowhead

A well frequented Public House at Norton Woodseats

A Mansion House called Low Fields House half a mile from Sheffield with Gardens, Pleasure gardens,Vineries,Hot Houses, Stables and Out Buildings.

About 13 Acres of Coal in the Township of Coal Aston.

Thanks Southside

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A bit of help req!

In the May 21st 1850 edition of the Derbyshire Mercury there is a notice advertising the Sale of the Estate of Samuel Shaw of Norton Hall.

A well frequented Public House at Norton Woodseats

A Mansion House called Low Fields House half a mile from Sheffield with Gardens, Pleasure gardens,Vineries,Hot Houses, Stables and Out Buildings.

About 13 Acres of Coal in the Township of Coal Aston.

Thanks Southside

The Free Masons Arms was open at that time at Norton Woodseats, not aware of any others ? Anyone else got any thoughts please ?

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A bit of help req!

In the May 21st 1850 edition of the Derbyshire Mercury there is a notice advertising the Sale of the Estate of Samuel Shaw of Norton Hall.

One of the Many Lots up for Sale is The Lay Rectory of Norton with the Chancel of Norton Parish Church, or such part as belonged to the said Samuel Shaw, thereof and a rent charge of £14 per Annum upon lands in the Parish of Norton in lieu of Rectorial Tythes.

Just out of interest can any one explain how this arrangement worked, ie did the Shaws own the Chancel?

Also any info on the following Lots in the Sale.

A Brick yard with Dwelling House and Brick Kilns thereon at Meadowhead

A well frequented Public House at Norton Woodseats

A Mansion House called Low Fields House half a mile from Sheffield with Gardens, Pleasure gardens,Vineries,Hot Houses, Stables and Out Buildings.

About 13 Acres of Coal in the Township of Coal Aston.

Thanks Southside

HI Southside l think the brickyard referred to is lower down than Meadowhead, the old Woodside brickworks on Chesterfield Rd, l think is the one, now Homebase which was the first to be built on that site after the brickworks closed. The Public House would have been the Norton Hotel at Meadowhead or the Abbey at the bottom, having said that the Chantry on Woodseats bottom was a popular watering hole in those days after the haul up from Lowfields both for man and beast. not quite sure on that Regarding the Mansion House at Low Fields that would probably have been the one situated at the bottom of Sharrow Lane.

[Although l had to submit a Property Condition for the Estates Surveyors Dept] on this building, l can't recall its name. Taking a guess at the Coal Aston land, l believe this was where the Holmesdale Estate was eventually built by Redmiles whom l was told the great,great grandfather bought the land for a song with no building rights, till the ban was lifted about a century later. Take this info with a pinch of salt but its not far out.Food for thought anyway. Cheers Skeets.

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Regarding the Mansion House at Low Fields that would probably have been the one situated at the bottom of Sharrow Lane.

Good suggestion skeets, it's a a bit of a puzzler that one,

Mount Pleasant could fit the discription.

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A bit of help req!

In the May 21st 1850 edition of the Derbyshire Mercury there is a notice advertising the Sale of the Estate of Samuel Shaw of Norton Hall.

One of the Many Lots up for Sale is The Lay Rectory of Norton with the Chancel of Norton Parish Church, or such part as belonged to the said Samuel Shaw, thereof and a rent charge of £14 per Annum upon lands in the Parish of Norton in lieu of Rectorial Tythes.

Just out of interest can any one explain how this arrangement worked, ie did the Shaws own the Chancel?

I'm willing to accept a second opinion, but I think it works like this.

Before the Dissolution of the Monasteries, Beauchief Abbey provided the clergy at Norton Church. In return they would receive the tithes of the parish (i.e. 1/10th of the produce). After the dissolution, a member of the local gentry will have purchased the Rectorship and the associated tithes. The upkeep of the chancel was the responsibility of the church authorities, (in this case Samuel Shaw) whereas the nave was often the responsibility of the parishioners. He wouldn't have been a clergyman, but would have the right to appoint the rector. At some stage, the right to the tithes was given up in return for an annual payment of £14.

All this was a disposable asset, hence the above Lot.

Comments anyone?

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Harold Armitage, in Chantrey Land (page 9 in my version), states

"Mr Pearson was patron of the living, for he had purchased the advowson from Cavendish Nevile, who sold the rectorial tithes to the Shores and other land owners"

Throughout the book, Harold Armitage refers to the Shore family of Norton Hall (as opposed to Shaw). Cavendish Nevile was Vicar of Norton from 1710 to 1750.

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Harold Armitage, in Chantrey Land (page 9 in my version), states

"Mr Pearson was patron of the living, for he had purchased the advowson from Cavendish Nevile, who sold the rectorial tithes to the Shores and other land owners"

Throughout the book, Harold Armitage refers to the Shore family of Norton Hall (as opposed to Shaw). Cavendish Nevile was Vicar of Norton from 1710 to 1750.

Thanks Madannie, I think that fits?

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A Mansion House called Low Fields House half a mile from Sheffield with Gardens, Pleasure gardens,Vineries,Hot Houses, Stables and Out Buildings.

Good suggestion skeets, it's a a bit of a puzzler that one,

Mount Pleasant could fit the discription.

One house that comes to mind that stood in the Low Fields area

was Fieldhead House, not sure when the house was built but it was there in 1860.

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Found this from Sheffield Forum

Same with Lowfield. The house of that name stood in the triangle formed by London road and Abbeydale road behind the Royal Hotel, - now occupied by Batt street.

Maybe someone can find it on an old map?

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A bit of help req!

In the May 21st 1850 edition of the Derbyshire Mercury there is a notice advertising the Sale of the Estate of Samuel Shaw of Norton Hall.

One of the Many Lots up for Sale is The Lay Rectory of Norton with the Chancel of Norton Parish Church, or such part as belonged to the said Samuel Shaw, thereof and a rent charge of £14 per Annum upon lands in the Parish of Norton in lieu of Rectorial Tythes.

Just out of interest can any one explain how this arrangement worked, ie did the Shaws own the Chancel?

Also any info on the following Lots in the Sale.

A Brick yard with Dwelling House and Brick Kilns thereon at Meadowhead

A well frequented Public House at Norton Woodseats

A Mansion House called Low Fields House half a mile from Sheffield with Gardens, Pleasure gardens,Vineries,Hot Houses, Stables and Out Buildings.

About 13 Acres of Coal in the Township of Coal Aston.

Thanks Southside

Thank you for your replies A bit more help required please with the location of two more Lots from The Shore Estate Sale.

Woolley Vale Works &

Trout House Heeley

The Location of The Brick Kiln and The Ouarry on Meadowhead are shown on this OS image from around 1840,also Photograph of Cobner Wood Quarry as is today.

Thanks Southside

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Found this from Sheffield Forum

Same with Lowfield. The house of that name stood in the triangle formed by London road and Abbeydale road behind the Royal Hotel, - now occupied by Batt street.

Maybe someone can find it on an old map?

Flash Earth

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Thank you for your replies A bit more help required please with the location of two more Lots from The Shore Estate Sale.

Woolley Vale Works &

Trout House Heeley

The Location of The Brick Kiln and The Ouarry on Meadowhead are shown on this OS image from around 1840,also Photograph of Cobner Wood Quarry as is today.

Thanks Southside

Trout House stood next to the Little London Dam (wheel)

on the Derbyshire side (south side) of the Meers Brook,

in this area .. Flash Earth

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