Salmon Pastures coal depot

[roy1942]

This bridge or tramway brought coal into the depot from the Nunnery Colliery, I managed to find the tunnel entrance on Worthing Rd, an abutmentto the bridge on the canal tow path across from the pallet yard and a stone pier on Effingham Rd opposite the gate to the pallet yard. Would welcome any info or pics of the structure.

[Guest Falls]

this bridge or tramway brought coal into the depot from the nunnery colliery,i manage to find the tunnel entrance on worthing rd ,an abutmentto the bridge on the canal tow path across from the pallet yard.and a stone pier on effingham rd opposite the gate to the pallet yard.would welcome any info or pics of the structure.

Hi,

The tramway alignment is clearly shown crossing Effingham Road and the River on Map #68 .

There was steel bridge across Effingham Road, then an abutment before the second bridge spanning the river.

The abutment between the two bridges was on the East end of a piece of property that was part of Davy Brothers (later Davy United) Park Iron Works. Davy's sold the works to Tempered Spring Co. in 1957.

Very little appears to have changed at that end of works site since I last worked at Park Iron Works in 1956. At least that was my impression when I took the Five Weirs Walk in Oct. 2006.

Regards

[Stuart0742]

Hi,

The tramway alignment is clearly shown crossing Effingham Road and the River on Map #68 .

There was steel bridge across Effingham Road, then an abutment before the second bridge spanning the river.

The abutment between the two bridges was on the East end of a piece of property that was part of Davy Brothers (later Davy United) Park Iron Works. Davy's sold the works to Tempered Spring Co. in 1957.

Very little appears to have changed at that end of works site since I last worked at Park Iron Works in 1956. At least that was my impression when I took the Five Weirs Walk in Oct. 2006.

Regards

These photos are described as Nunnery Colliery Railway, looks quite steep, is this the tramway

Picture Sheffield - Construction work

Picture Sheffield - Talbot Inn, with entrance to railway on right

[RichardB]

This bridge or tramway brought coal into the depot from the Nunnery Colliery, I managed to find the tunnel entrance on Worthing Rd, an abutmentto the bridge on the canal tow path across from the pallet yard and a stone pier on Effingham Rd opposite the gate to the pallet yard. Would welcome any info or pics of the structure.

Also :

J A King (& Co. Ltd.) specialists in ferro-concrete Salmon Pastures Yard, Attercliffe Road Kelly's 1925

http://www.sheffieldrecordsonline.org.uk/

[Stuart0742]

Hi,

The tramway alignment is clearly shown crossing Effingham Road and the River on Map #68 .

There was steel bridge across Effingham Road, then an abutment before the second bridge spanning the river.

The abutment between the two bridges was on the East end of a piece of property that was part of Davy Brothers (later Davy United) Park Iron Works. Davy's sold the works to Tempered Spring Co. in 1957.

Very little appears to have changed at that end of works site since I last worked at Park Iron Works in 1956. At least that was my impression when I took the Five Weirs Walk in Oct. 2006.

Regards

Here is an extract from SteveHB's 1920 Bacon Map

The tramway is shown going from Nunnery Colliery down to Salmon Pastures and also to Blast Ln Depot

[Guest Gramps]

Yes - I believe it's one of the maps I passed on to RichardB, but the date of it is questionable. It shows the tramway as entirely overground down to Salmon Pastures coal yard, - except for a small tunnel under the GCR line. It even crosses Lumley street on the surface, either via a bridge or a level crossing. What this map doesn't show is the great mass of GCR sidings that were built alongside Lumley street.

These sidings and engine shed are shown on the 1905 OS map which obviously suggests the Bacon map predates 1905, or is at least based on an OS map of earlier date - perhaps the large scale 1896 version ?

I have never seen any close-up photos of the bridges that carried the tramway over the canal and river. There are however two 1930 aerial photos on Picture Sheffield which show these bridges - search for s12380 and s12378. If you download the zoomed photos and enlarge them even further the bridges are quite clear.

It would be worth calling in to Local Studies to browse the entire collection of local photos as they still have a lot that haven't yet been added to the on-line dataset.

[Guest Gramps]

Thanks to whoever put those picture links in for me - my senior moments seem to be on the increase :rolleyes:

[Stuart0742]

Thanks to whoever put those picture links in for me - my senior moments seem to be on the increase

The tramway is still shown on my 1950's Geographia Streetplan

[Guest Gramps]

The tramway is still shown on my 1950's Geographia Streetplan

Interesting...does anyone know when it was dismantled ? I never got down that area as a youngster.

[roy1942]

while i was on the towpath looking for remains to the bridge, i came across a sign painted on the retaining wall it said,"danger no smoking" which i thought was strange, but looking on the aerial photo s12380 i notice there use to be an oil storage depot along side the cutting! just a bit of added interest.

[roy1942]

found another title,"sheffield canal tramways" by fred hartley.anyone know of it!

[Guest Phil Morecoal]

Hi Chaps, very interested in this area - was out doing a bit of industrial archeology on this last w/e. I would like help with:

Photos of Salmon Pastures at various dates/eras in time – I know it was still being used as a coal stocking-sale yard into the 1980s well after the coking plan & Nunnery had shut down and used to supply concessionary coal to miners well into late 80s

Like to see any pictures of the Nunnery’s railway line as desecribed – particularly pictures of the bridges over Effingham Rd, the Canal & River Don and the tunnel entrances on Lumley St. & near Aston St. I noticed the other day that the bridge abutments still exist at the canal. I think the tunnel entrance under Lumley St. still exists too, but couldn’t quite see – would need to access the Veolia site to see better.

Be interested to know if the line to Salmon Pastures was single or double & was it loco hauled or rope hauled or a combination of the two – I suspect rope hauled given what I imagine would be severe inclines. Was the track standard gauge? were standard main-line Nunnery Colliery Co. wagons used on the line?.

How was the tunnel under the GCR main line constructed? or was it extent prior to the building of the main line, which was maybe built over the top later?

[Guest Phil Morecoal]

The tramway is still shown on my 1950's Geographia Streetplan

Interesting - do you have the map to the immediate east - ie: showing Nunnery Colliery?

[Stuart0742]

Interesting - do you have the map to the immediate east - ie: showing Nunnery Colliery?

Here is a wider view of the 1950's streetmap

[Guest Gramps]

Phil, - there are a couple of items on the 1905 map section below that give us some possible clues.

The building in front of the reservoir looks like a possible 'winding house' for a ropeway system, and the fact that it's labelled as an 'incline' supports this.

Between the colliery branch line and the main line is a small section of culvert. I think much of the tramway was originally in a culvert and it would have been a simple job to convert this to a tunnel when the sidings were put in as it would have needed to be not much more tan 6 foot high.

Just conjecture mind

[Guest Phil Morecoal]

Gramps, Thanks for that - as you say conjecture, but I think you could well be correct based upon those clues. Looks like the tramway from there was single line track and the sidings around the cut-off point maybe where loco's were detached for transfer to the rope haulage

[roy1942]

the tunnel is deftnetly single track,as i said i went down for a closer look at the cutting from the tunnel entrance/exit to the towpath were the bridge started.

[roy1942]

I think i've found a photo of the elusive Nunnery/Salmon Pastures tramway! its on "picture sheffield" under river don page 39 picture s12221 its taken from effingham rd side of the river it shows the bridge columns & part of the lattice girderwork its written up as being at brightside but i think its wrong! ive also study it on the aerial photo s12380.

[Guest Phil Morecoal]

I think i've found a photo of the elusive Nunnery/Salmon Pastures tramway! its on "picture sheffield" under river don page 39 picture s12221 its taken from effingham rd side of the river it shows the bridge columns & part of the lattice girderwork its written up as being at brightside but i think its wrong! ive also study it on the aerial photo s12380.

Thanks for that Roy, good detective work. Appreciate your help.