RichardB Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 OK, one isn't a photo, but, bonus, the other one is .... I'd been told the old stones outside the Cathedral were old gravestones, now, sadly the inscriptions won away. But I never knew that they were originally laid down flat, as per the following pictures Well, they did always say Campo Lane was very narrow ! Seems they "stole" a bit off the back of the Churchyard, then "stole" a bit off the front as well. Caused a bit of a stir - I'm sure the kids used to sing a rhyme about it, going up the Broomhall or somewhere to abuse Rev Wilkinson ... Picture Sheffield link : http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/pi...ff.refno=s02186 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 What a fantastic picture that is - I didn't know about the flat gravestones either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted March 13, 2007 Author Share Posted March 13, 2007 Trying again with the second picture ... Picture from Illustrated Guide to Sheffield - Pawson and Brailsford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 less graves on that one So the place must have got busier and busier and ended up with them squishing the poor deceased together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted March 13, 2007 Author Share Posted March 13, 2007 less graves on that one So the place must have got busier and busier and ended up with them squishing the poor deceased together The second "picture" is much earlier, I think its from Pawson's and Brailsfords Illustrated Guide to Sheffield (1862) - notice the military figures walking around the place, may help to date the picture, but, I will check the book. The Campo Lane one, is much later, just how cramped the place was is incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I've blown the first picture up because it's currently my favourite ever picture posted on the site I absolutely love it Picture courtesy of Picture Sheffield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 So what was the pub in the immediate right of picture ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 So what was the pub in the immediate right of picture ? Campo Lane from White's Directory of Sheffield & Rotherham, 1901. I think the 1st road off to the RIGHT is Paradise Street. I reckon it's number 26. The building is between North Church Street and Paradise Street. Regards, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 According to the 1901 census, Thomas Hitchen and wife Alice Mary live at no 26 Campo Lane, he being a Licensed Victualler. No Pub name though! Regards, andyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 Good work there mate.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 No 26 Campo Lane is The Ball. From White's Directory of Sheffield & Rotherham, 1905. Landlord is Thomas Hitchen Regards, andyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 Please review this photo, from PictureSheffield ...http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s16818&pos=1&action=zoom&id=19506 This makes me think the house numbers are lower than those already stated (read the descriptions); also the Elevated view can only have been taken from the top of the Blue Coat Charity school building. Blah, blah, drone, drone, I think the pub is the East Parade Hotel .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tsavo Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Campo Lane from White's Directory of Sheffield & Rotherham, 1901. I think the 1st road off to the RIGHT is Paradise Street. I reckon it's number 26. The building is between North Church Street and Paradise Street. Regards, Andy Andy, do you have the page above for Heavygate Rd? Was born on there and would love to see it if possible. Thanks, (hopefully) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Hello tsavo, Is it the Street listing for Heavygate Road you want 1901? Thats a coincidence... I'm about 50 yards from Heavygate Road and can see the Street while I'm sat here typing. Regards, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tsavo Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I was born at 208. Depending how old you are, you may remember three cottages opposite the bus station. They were demolished some years ago. Later moved to Aldred Rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: The Pub: I was wondering about the odd and even number sides myself. Numbers usually start lowest numbers nearest the Town Hall. My logic here is the road breaks (in italics). The building numbers are working up between North Church Street (not visible on the photo) and Paradise Street which we can see. I thought a road break was only inserted on the side of the street the side road was on. I'll try and find out cos it's got me thinking now. Regards, andyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tsavo Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Thanks for the list, Andy. They made a bit of a bodge with the listings, 208 was just past the top of Greenhow Street, towards Highton Street. It was the only yard with it's original railings from the pre war period. Due to it's closness to the main road, we children had to be protected from the traffic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 George Herbert Sayles at no 163 Heavygate Road is my great great uncle (think I've got that correct). He worked in his mothers shop, my great great great grandmother Emma Sayles (nee Morton). She had a shop at no1 Grouse Street as late as 1911, then aged 73, and may well have run the shop until her death in 1918. Small world. Regards, andyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 No worries tsavo, you're welcome. If anyone else is interested, check out : http://www.historicaldirectories.org/ Tis a bit of a ballache to use, but it is free. Regards, andyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 and then I lived on Greenhow Street, from 1977 till I left Sheffield in 1981, third house down from the junction with Camm Street (now that was a GREAT chip shop, at the far end of Camm Street), number 54 Greenhow Street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neddy Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 According to the 1901 census, Thomas Hitchen and wife Alice Mary live at no 26 Campo Lane, he being a Licensed Victualler. No Pub name though! Regards, andyc Thomas Hitchen had the Golden Ball 1871 moved to the Grey horse Blast Lane 1881 (later became Stoke Street) 1891, Didn't have his address 1901, so thank you, can you see a Alice aged about 12 with the family,cant read her name in the 1891. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Hello Neddy, Complete household at 26 Campo Lane 1901 Census. Thomas Hitchen aged 56, Head of house, married, licensed victualler, born Yorkshire Sheffield. Alice Mary Hitchen aged 39, wife, married, born (looks like) Salop(?) Donnington Wood (difficult to read). Ada Fry, aged 20, servant, single, general domestic servant, born Yorkshire Sheffield. No others, but Alice could have been elsewhere on the night of the census. If you want a copy, PM me an email address. I can't post it here because of copyright. Regards, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neddy Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Hello Neddy, Complete household at 26 Campo Lane 1901 Census. Thomas Hitchen aged 56, Head of house, married, licensed victualler, born Yorkshire Sheffield. Alice Mary Hitchen aged 39, wife, married, born (looks like) Salop(?) Donnington Wood (difficult to read). Ada Fry, aged 20, servant, single, general domestic servant, born Yorkshire Sheffield. No others, but Alice could have been elsewhere on the night of the census. If you want a copy, PM me an email address. I can't post it here because of copyright. Regards, Andy Thanks for that, 1891 has an adopted dau Alice ???? age 2 will have to look elswhere for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tsavo Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Thanks for that, 1891 has an adopted dau Alice ???? age 2 will have to look elswhere for her. Salop used to be the abbreviation for Shropshire. Doesn't help much but ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Hello tsavo, Looks like Alice Maud Sexton aged 2, adopted daughter, on the 1891 census, born Clown (Clowne?), Derbyshire. I can't find an exact match for her 1901, but there is an Alice Saxton, down as 12 year old niece to head of house John Saxton at Long Eaton, Derbyshire. Her place of birth states Derbyshire. There's also another niece listed. A 21 year old Annie Parkin born Ripley, Derbyshire. Dunno if this helps. Regards, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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