New Era Square off London Road - what used to be there?

[Sheffield History]

 

 

Have a look at this video..

What used to be there before all of this was built?

[southside]

Wasn't Denby Street somewhere in that location?  I remember meeting some mates in a pub on Denby Street on the way to the Lane in the early 60s.

[SteveHB]

24 minutes ago, southside said:

Wasn't Denby Street somewhere in that location?  I remember meeting some mates in a pub on Denby Street on the way to the Lane in the early 60s.

That pub would have been The Spotsman

 

[southside]

That's the pub SteveHB:  Found this photograph of the place on Picture Sheffield and it's location on this forum map link.

https://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/uploads/monthly_09_2008/post-188-1221039677.jpg

 

[Ponytail]

Derelict properties, Denby Street (formerly New Thomas Street) and Arley Street junction. 1937.

s14851   Estates Surveyors Dept

Nos 18-22, George Lane, Highfield looking towards Arley Street junction. Court Nos 3 and 5 at rear of these properties. September 1938.s16228   Estates Surveyors Dept. 

 

Nos 3-7, Arley Street (formerly Cross George Street) at junction of Nos 49-51, Hermitage Street. September 1938.

s13025

 

Nos 17-23, Arley Street at junction of Sheldon Street. Nos 21-23, August 1943. Premises of Philip Sunderland, Silver Plater. Court No. 9 (Boston Street) at rear of houses on left. 23 Arley Street was the Grey Horse Inn.

u00962   City Engineers Dept. 

 

Angler's Rest, No 50, Boston Street (formerly New George Street), at junction of Arley Street. Nos 44-46, prior to demolition, right. Back to back houses already demolished. August 1939. 

u02480  Estates Surveyors Dept

 

T.C. Harrison, commercial vehicle repairers, Arley Street. May 1975. 

s34864

Joseph Smith (Sheffield) Ltd, haulage, demolition and plant hire, Arley Street frontage. May 1975.s34840

Matthias Spencer and Sons Ltd, mining machinery manufacturers, Arley Street. May 1975.s34863

 

H. L. Nowlin and Son Ltd, surgical instrument manufacturers, Boston Street at the junction with Arley Street. May 1975.s38017

 

See Picture Sheffield for more images of the area. 

https://www.picturesheffield.com

 

[Ponytail]

28 minutes ago, southside said:

That's the pub SteveHB:  Found this photograph of the place on Picture Sheffield and it's location on this forum map link.

https://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/uploads/monthly_09_2008/post-188-1221039677.jpgFetching info...

 

 

The Sportsman public house, No. 10 Denby Street. May 1975.s21750

 

https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;t13700&pos=4&action=zoom&id=108195

 

Derelict site on Denby Street showing (right) No. 14 The Sportsman public house. 

https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;t14506&pos=33&action=zoom&id=152492

 

 

[Ponytail]

Area around New Era Square in earlier times showing proposed streets. Note some streets changed names. 

Little Sheffield (London Road) Completed layout of the streets in Rowland Hodgson's land, c. 1818. 

https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc04154&pos=17&action=zoom&id=104100

Marked: William Stratford, William Cooper, Samuel Johnson, James Richardson, Samuel Mather, William Staley, Henry Lester, John Reaney, Thomas Burton, Henry Hewitt, John Cadman, Thomas Hounsfield, George Carnall, William Flockton, Catherine Younger, William Staley, Robert Marples, Jackson Frow, Michael Butler, David Craven, William Bunting, John and William Bridgens, Thomas Booker, T. Worstenholme, James Bowen or Bower, Robert Green, William Steadman, John Webster, William Cooper, William Beardstall?, Roger Brown and Sons, Jos. Garlick, George Turton, John Richardson, William Ashall, James Merryweather, George Hall, Jno. Gallimore, Joseph Bower, John Jackson, Joseph Hutchinson, Machin and Hall, Jos. Priest, William Hallewell, Young Sick Society, George Wild, Samuel Rogers, John Wright, William Roper, John Shead, Charles Gallimore, John Mayman, John Hewitt, Robert Walker, Joseph Twells, Joseph Bower, and Jno. Sheldon.

Also Marked: River Porter, Little Sheffield; Hermitage Streeet; George Street; Clinton Street. 

 

 

Plan of the late Thomas Booker's leasehold. Properties in the streets between London Road and Brammall Lane (sic) Not dated.

https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc04152&pos=89&action=zoom&id=104092

Shows: Turnpike Road [London Road], Hermitage Street, Clinton Street, George Street, Sheldon Street, Thomas Street, John Street, and Brammall Lane [Bramall Lane].

Refers to the late Rowland Hodgson and the late John Sheldon.

 

Land measured for Rowland Hodgson, with new streets laid out - Hermitage Street, George Street (now Boston Street) and George Lane, 1817. 

https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc04153&pos=1&action=zoom&id=104099

Marked: 1 Samuel Newbould, 2 Samuel Johnson, 3 and 4 Thomas Jacklin, 5 Jonathan Crookes, 6 Jonathan Sherwood, 7 William Needham, 8 Thomas Worstenholm, 9 William Brown and George Carnall; also shows William Smith and Rowland Hodgson's gardens; and River Porter.

Also: White House Lane (Bramall Lane) 

 

Plan of part of the land of the late John Sheldon between George Street and Sheldon Street showing several encroachment. 1843

https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc04246&pos=95&action=zoom&id=105406

Marked: George Street, Sheldon Street, and Clinton Street; Joseph Prince, William Hallewell, late George Wild now - Webster, late John Wright now Henry Broomhead, late John Sheard? [now?] Michael Butler, Charles Gallimore, John Maynam, and late Mr Sheldon's land.

 

 

A survey of several closes (in their present state) belonging to the heirs of Samuel Sheldon [London Road] 1791. 

https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc03639&pos=31&action=zoom&id=99190

Marked: Turnpike Road from Chesterfield. 

 

Plan of a lot of ground in Sheldon Street intended to be taken for a school. 1838. 

Marked: Sheldon Street; Clinton Street. 

https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc03744&pos=11&action=zoom&id=99357

 

[Stenner]

On 01/03/2024 at 23:45, southside said:

That's the pub SteveHB:  Found this photograph of the place on Picture Sheffield and it's location on this forum map link.

https://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/uploads/monthly_09_2008/post-188-1221039677.jpgFetching info...

 

Diagonally up and across from there was Denby Street Nursery - our son went there for a short time about 1972/3

[Ponytail]

15 minutes ago, Stenner said:

Diagonally up and across from there was Denby Street Nursery - our son went there for a short time about 1972/3

 

Bit earlier than your son's time at the Nursery. 

Denby Street, Nursery School. 1949. 

s06594

David Bocking took many photographs of children at Denby Street Nursery for Picture Sheffield 10th & 12th November 2004. 

Playground, Denby Street Nursery, Highfield. c00480

 

[Ponytail]

Denby Street Nursery School, Sheffield. 

1964-2004.

Admission Registers, Photographs and Misc further material. 

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F202279

 

[Richard Vessey]

A few further photos, looking down Boston Street towards the church, No. 2 Works of Matthias Spencer & Sons Ltd. on the right, also fronting onto Arley Street. Further along Arley Street (between John & Denby Streets) the main offices & works of Matthias Spencer & Sons Ltd.

Is it possible that the H.L. Nowlin & Sons surgical instrument premises, shown as earlier photo, on corner of Boston Street and Arley Street replaced the Angler's Rest pub around 1939, as the pub was about to be demolished?

Also does anyone know where on Arley Street was that photo of TC Harrison's commercial vehicle yard, between which streets and on which side of the road?

[SteveHB]

3 hours ago, Richard Vessey said:

A few further photos, looking down Boston Street towards the church, No. 2 Works of Matthias Spencer & Sons Ltd. on the right, also fronting onto Arley Street. Further along Arley Street (between John & Denby Streets) the main offices & works of Matthias Spencer & Sons Ltd.

Is it possible that the H.L. Nowlin & Sons surgical instrument premises, shown as earlier photo, on corner of Boston Street and Arley Street replaced the Angler's Rest pub around 1939, as the pub was about to be demolished?

Also does anyone know where on Arley Street was that photo of TC Harrison's commercial vehicle yard, between which streets and on which side of the road?

 

Between Boston Street and Sheldon Street, on the west side of Arley Street, I have maked the area on a section of  this 1953 OS map ...

 

 

 

 

 

[Richard Vessey]

Thanks. Fascinating. The TC Harrison company ended up with much property in this area; the old Brunswick Steel Works in Denby Street in the 50s and old Matthias Spencer buildings in Arley Street in the 80s. As a matter of interest, where can one access 1:1,250 OS maps like that from 1953, as I can't find them in National Library of Scotland. Richard

[SteveHB]

33 minutes ago, Richard Vessey said:

Thanks. Fascinating. The TC Harrison company ended up with much property in this area; the old Brunswick Steel Works in Denby Street in the 50s and old Matthias Spencer buildings in Arley Street in the 80s. As a matter of interest, where can one access 1:1,250 OS maps like that from 1953, as I can't find them in National Library of Scotland. Richard

Hello, most areas are covered by the 1950's OS maps on this site

 

[SteveHB]

Arley Street and Boston Street, 1957 directory.

[SteveHB]

Denby Street, 1957 directory.

 

[southside]

My 5x great grandfather Thomas Cadman sold his pub the Red Lion in Elton Derbyshire and moved to Sheffield with his son Joseph and family to live on Sheldon Street where died in 1837.

4 x great grandfather Joseph Cadman ran a carting business from his home on Sheldon Street, this newspaper article about the theft of a cart from his premises on Sheldon Street is from the 1842 Sheffield & Rotherham Independent.

After Josephs death in 1857 his widow Ann Cadman married George Swindon in 1860, the Sheffield Water Works Inspector,  who gave warning the Dale Dyke dam at Bradfield was about to burst 160 years ago today the 11th March 1864.

 

[Richard Vessey]

Thanks for map link. Very useful. Also thanks for 1957 directory pages for Arley Street, Denby Street, Boston Street zone. Very interesting to confirm that Matthias Spencer & Sons, Wardrobe & Smith, William Cornthwaite & Sons and John Vessey & Sons all still present at that time. All had been crucible steel manufacturers, though that must have been about the last year that steel was made. The John Vessey & Sons Brunswick Steel Works site was sold to TC Harrisons that year and Wardrobe & Smith and Cornthwaites were just dormant companies by then, with all then based with Matthias Spencer & Sons specialising in mining equipment (as all those companies were part of the same holding company). Fascinating period.............