hackey lad Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 08/04/2020 at 10:45, Sheffield History said: I think the council finally managed to get the owners to see sense (or forced them), so it should be developed nicely now.. This hasn't aged well . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 This is probably out of date as I understood they were going to finish the course for students. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Sheffield University, Department of Archaeology. Sheffield Castle: the story so far https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/archaeology/sheffield-castle/history Sheffield University, Department of Archaeology. Sheffield Castle. https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/archaeology/sheffield-castle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-68277444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tozzin Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I remember in the fifties a portion of the castle sticking out of a concrete incline, this was removed in the sixties I believe, in the photo the portion of the wall it was situated just a yard or so before the shown bus stop with the timetable attached, I sure there's a photo of the portion of wall but no mention of it's connection to the castle on picture Sheffield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 A Plan of the Tenements, etc., on the Castle Hill in Sheffield demised by the Duke of Norfolk to John Waite. 1769. Surveyor: William Fairbank. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc03422&pos=1&action=zoom&id=98686 The Castle Site showing the Bowling Green and surrounding tenements, with a steep precipice to the Don on the northern side; measurement of the whole; Tenants' names. Also Marked: A Common Foot Road; Pump; Gravel bed; Gardens; Bowling Green occupied by John Nelson; ? Balm; Cheshire Heaton; Widow Blythe, Joseph Manners; Matthew Ward; John Wilson; Wade Burley; Wm Hayffer; John Hurt; Saml Green; John Crowshaw; John Smith; Joshua Wainwright; Saml Wainwright; Saml Shore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Plan of Sheffield Castle about 1700 drawn in the 1930s. Showing the Bowling Green. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;y09509&pos=467&action=zoom&id=64229 Site of Sheffield Castle as shown on Ordnance Survey Map 294.8.12. 1890. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;y06789&pos=383&action=zoom&id=6125 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 There are so many different buildings from different ages to excavate if anything remains of them. Cottages, Court No. 1, Castle Hill at the rear of Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd., Norfolk Castle Refreshment Rooms, Castle Hill, 1913/14. s25746 Information with the photograph: Taken from No.32 Properties to be demolished (Sheffield Local Studies Library: 914.274 SQ). Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd, Norfolk Castle Dining Rooms were 23, Exchange Street and are shown on photograph y00265 as 2nd floor property at the junction of Castle Hill and Exchange Street. Exchange Street and corner of Castle Hill (left), 1913-1914, No. 15 Exchange Street, William Anson, umbrella manufacturer; No. 17 Maurice Argyle Heathcote, grocer and No. 23 Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd., Norfolk Castle Dining Rooms. y00265 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadFarmer Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I went on an interesting history talk of the castle last night. Wessex archeology are holding tours of the castle site this year, I've booked myself a place. They are also taking bookings for p[eople to join in with the excavation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 An article in the Tribune: How a Medieval Castle Became a modern City 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Castlegate Park https://youtu.be/ZANKdDXaVuA?si=ef3B1ivvGNH85dkJ https://youtube.com/shorts/WZk0KcNE9II?si=yvyxTfivQCxOD0bQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ponytail Posted Friday at 14:54 Share Posted Friday at 14:54 Undocumented steelworks unearthed at Sheffield Castle Site. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-68899320 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted Friday at 18:32 Share Posted Friday at 18:32 I'm not sure that the steel furnace was undocumented. The insurance map from 1896 shows a 40 foot cementation cone on the premises of R and J Smith Brothers. This photo appears to be the same cone although the PictureSheffield notes say it's in the Wicker area. ( R and J Smith Brothers Cone ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted Friday at 19:04 Share Posted Friday at 19:04 55 minutes ago, Edmund said: I'm not sure that the steel furnace was undocumented. The insurance map from 1896 shows a 40 foot cementation cone on the premises of R and J Smith Brothers. This photo appears to be the same cone although the PictureSheffield notes say it's in the Wicker area. ( R and J Smith Brothers Cone ) Checking on the above photograph, it's Picture Sheffield No. u00917 R and J Smith Brothers Ltd, 51 Bridge Street, photographed by City Engineers Department. Information would more than likely be written on the original photograph, from which the information could have been obtained. Bridge Street, would I think come into the "Wicker" area on the Street Map used to reference the location. Further Information recorded as addition information with the image came from Mark Brocket, "I believe that this company were a wholly owned subsidiary of William Rowland Ltd., certainly around 1938 and were metal processors." Certainly, it would be good to investigate this image further. A check of Street Directories would be useful. I would have thought the Archaeologists had consulted the map previously, perhaps the BBC needs to clarify their report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted Friday at 19:10 Share Posted Friday at 19:10 Advertisement for R. and J. Smith Bros. Ltd., iron merchants and metal agents, Castle Hill. 1889. y11912 Image from Sheffield and Neighbourhood (page 39) (printed and published by Pawson and Brailsford, Sheffield, 1889) (Sheffield Local Studies Library: 914.274 S). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted Friday at 20:07 Share Posted Friday at 20:07 This Map covers the area in question. Sheffield - Wain Gate, Castle Folds, Hay Market and Dixon Lane, c. 1790. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc04278&pos=27&action=zoom&id=105920 Also marked are River Sheaf, Hospital Bridge, River Don, Ladies Bridge and Chandlers Row. Marked: John Ashmore, John Wilkes, William Green, Joshua Wigfull, and Luke Gray. Plan of Castle Hill area showing position of buildings and streets, surveyed 1889. y00870 Taken from 'Sheffield Castle Excavations', by J.B. Himsworth, Local Studies Ref: 914.274 SQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted Saturday at 08:16 Share Posted Saturday at 08:16 Here's another photo of the furnace in context with the surrounding buildings ( Circa 1900 Castle Hill ) In 2016 Wessex Archaeology excavated part of the site ( 2016 Excavations ) Their Trench 1 which included part of the cone site found pieces of ‘crozzle’, (residue produced from furnace lining made from wheelswarf) and pieces of ganister, providing evidence to support the proximity of Trench 1 to a furnace. They stated that "No [documentary] evidence of steel production by R. & J. Smith could be found and it seemed likely that the furnace shown on Goad’s 1896 map was decommissioned and possibly later demolished during R. & J. Smith’s tenure of the site." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted Saturday at 16:03 Share Posted Saturday at 16:03 This seems to be a different furnace, though still on Smith Brothers' premises. from Sheffield Daily Telegraph 30th March 1915: ANCIENT FURNACE ON SITE OF SHEFFIELD CASTLE The Sheffield Corporation workmen engaged on the construction of the new road from the Great Central Station have unearthed on Sheffield Castle site the lower part of a steel furnace. It stands in what was formerly the yard of Messrs Smiths' Steel Works. The furnace is solidly built of rubble stone with a strong course of heavy gritstone, and is in shape a square truncated mound. The structure has four firing holes, and was built probably about the year 1800. It is not likely that its origin is earlier because the older engravings of the locality do not show the furnace. The building, however, is indicated in a sketch of Lady's Bridge which appears in Mr. Thomas Winder's work "T'Heft an Blades o' Shevvield" Incorporated in the masonry are slabs of the old stone from the castle. Among the ancient relics which the workmen have found have been an iron door crank, and a piece of glass from the castle windows, possibly 400 years old. These, along with portions of dressed stone and door moulds, are being taken care of by the Corporation. Later excavations may be carried out on what was the castle moat with the view of searching for objects of antiquarian interest. This photo appears in other places but with dubious dates attributed to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Russell Posted Saturday at 23:08 Share Posted Saturday at 23:08 My Great & 4 Grandad, Joseph Turner, and his Father John Turner, had premises on Castle Hill in the early to mid 19th Century. He later grew the business and moved to John Street in the 1870s. This was his card. I'd be interested if anyone can tell me where exactly these premises were on Castle Hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysanderix Posted Sunday at 09:06 Share Posted Sunday at 09:06 R&J Smith Bros. was a going concern during the 1960s. At that time ,they never produced an ounce of steel ,being purely steel stockholders and merchants …as the advertisement Ponytail provided indicated. They were taken over by another merchant and, like so many other similar companies ,closed for ever during the decline of Sheffield as a steel centre! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted yesterday at 08:51 Share Posted yesterday at 08:51 "Supposedly" the walls of the approach road to the Victoria Station were largely built with stone from the castle, and there are hundreds of them bearing masons' marks. One to add to my list of walks during my next visit to Sheffield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
History dude Posted yesterday at 15:58 Share Posted yesterday at 15:58 6 hours ago, Edmund said: "Supposedly" the walls of the approach road to the Victoria Station were largely built with stone from the castle, and there are hundreds of them bearing masons' marks. One to add to my list of walks during my next visit to Sheffield. I can't see that happening. Since the castle site would have been built over by the time the station was built. The approach road would have taken loads of material to fill it up. They could have taken that from material roundabout, say something from the river - old stones and gravel, but it would be for infill. The facing stones and walls would have been brought in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted yesterday at 20:02 Share Posted yesterday at 20:02 Another view of the furnace, around 1825, in a picture of the River Sheaf and Shrewsbury Hospital (unknown artist, ArtUK website) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Castle Hill: Britain from Above 1921. The construction of Exchange Place is under way. The Sheaf culverted over and on the location of the Alexander Theatre(demolished 1914) the yet to be built Alexander Hotel. Castle Folds Lane running down from Exchange Street to Chandlers Row, rear of the shambles. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?action=printdetails&keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;y10037&prevUrl= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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