Sheffield History Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin72 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Haymarket. Building still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 Doh!!! Course it is!! I must have seen it a million times but totally forgot Amazing what buildings we have in Sheffield that we walk past and ignore often too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Ede Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 This looks like the upper floors of the old Brunswick pub, a Whitbread house in the seventies. It was next to Etams on the Haymarket opposite Woolworths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tozzin Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 The photo is of the original The Sun Inn (Old No 12) , there is a date on the high window, I think it has the name Wiley or Willey , people should remember that name as a Wine and Porter dealer. It wasn't the Brunswick, that building is next to the tacky sandwich shop / Cafe that sits on the corner of King Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tozzin Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Further to the Sun Inn, a couple of photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boginspro Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 From REMINISCENCES OF SHEFFIELD by R. E. LEADER QUOTE Johnson: What an institution "Wiley's window" meaning “Old No. 12” was! It was almost a substitute for the daily papers of the present time. All, or nearly all the events of the day were chronicled there - the deaths from cholera, the debates in Parliament, the elections, anything out of the ordinary course. I remember going down daily, during the debates on the first Reform Bill, to get the names of the speakers for my father. Leighton: Mr. Wiley displayed great enterprise, and made wonderful exertions to get his news. Johnson: Yes, when Earl Grey resigned, Mr. Wiley showed his public spirit by having the Sun newspaper express sent to him. The news travelled from London to Sheffield in 14½ hours - a great advance on 1806, when the news of the death of Mr. Pitt took three days to reach Sheffield. Mr. Wiley died October 14th, 1851. UNQUOTE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tozzin Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 hours ago, boginspro said: From REMINISCENCES OF SHEFFIELD by R. E. LEADER QUOTE Johnson: What an institution "Wiley's window" meaning “Old No. 12” was! It was almost a substitute for the daily papers of the present time. All, or nearly all the events of the day were chronicled there - the deaths from cholera, the debates in Parliament, the elections, anything out of the ordinary course. I remember going down daily, during the debates on the first Reform Bill, to get the names of the speakers for my father. Leighton: Mr. Wiley displayed great enterprise, and made wonderful exertions to get his news. Johnson: Yes, when Earl Grey resigned, Mr. Wiley showed his public spirit by having the Sun newspaper express sent to him. The news travelled from London to Sheffield in 14½ hours - a great advance on 1806, when the news of the death of Mr. Pitt took three days to reach Sheffield. Mr. Wiley died October 14th, 1851. UNQUOTE This is how people kept in touch with the news of the day, I think it was the Pheasant down Dixon Lane roughly where the entrance to the Rag n Tag stood, this pub was like a job centre of its day, anyone needing workers put up an advert advertising the fact so the unemployed called in the Pheasant to see if any jobs would suit their particular skills from labourers to grinders, they of course had a pint while perusing the adverts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boginspro Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 From the "SHEFFIELD LOCAL REGISTER 1849" March 12th. Election of Mr. Thos. Wiley, Old No. 12, Haymarket, as Town Trustee, vice Mr. Wm.Battie, deceased. And 1851 14th October . Decease of Ald. T. Wiley, aged 57, of Old No. 12, Haymarket. And White's Directories:- 1845 Wiley Thomas, wine, spirit, and porter merchant, news agent, & vict. Sun, 27 ("Old No. 12") Old Haymarket Sun Tavern, T.Wiley ,27 0ld Haymarket. 1849 Wiley Thomas, wine and spirit merchant & news agent, (Old No. 12,) 25 and 27 Old Haymarket; house Claremont place. Wiley Thomas, 12 Old Haymarket Sun Tavern., T. Wiley, Old Haymarket After his death:- 1852 Sun Tav., A. Wiley, 0ld Haymarket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lysander Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Wasn't the Old No. 12 on Exchange Street near the old Rotherham bus terminus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boginspro Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 3 hours ago, lysander said: Wasn't the Old No. 12 on Exchange Street near the old Rotherham bus terminus? In recent years the Rotherham House pub on Exchange Street was renamed Old No 12 and later renamed again to Market Tavern. I would guess they got the name from the pub we are talking about above. http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;a01403&pos=22&action=zoom&id=102150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKB Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 On 31/03/2018 at 04:03, boginspro said: In recent years the Rotherham House pub on Exchange Street was renamed Old No 12 and later renamed again to Market Tavern. I would guess they got the name from the pub we are talking about above. http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;a01403&pos=22&action=zoom&id=102150 was this the pub that was smashed up in the 40s/50s and made the front page of The Sheffield Star? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tozzin Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 The old number 12 still stands opposite Wilkos, it’s the mock Tudor building across. The clue is here 1845 Wiley Thomas, wine, spirit, and porter merchant, news agent, & vict. Sun, 27 ("Old No. 12") Old Haymarket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKB Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 4 hours ago, tozzin said: The old number 12 still stands opposite Wilkos, it’s the mock Tudor building across. The clue is here 1845 Wiley Thomas, wine, spirit, and porter merchant, news agent, & vict. Sun, 27 ("Old No. 12") Old Haymarket I had heard that The Rotherham House pub was smashed up in the 1940s or 50s and the incident made the front page of The Star... I wonder when the pub was renamed Old No 12 and then Market Tavern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Old No. 12, Old Haymarket Wiley & Co. Advertisement in Illustrated Guide to Sheffield, Pawson and Brailsford 1862. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tozzin Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 On 31/03/2018 at 09:00, lysander said: Wasn't the Old No. 12 on Exchange Street near the old Rotherham bus terminus? No that was the Rotherham House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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