Calvin72 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Where George Orwell stayed with the Searle family from 2nd to 4th of March 1936 whilst researching 'The Road to Wigan Pier'. Where was this area that Orwell describes i wonder? "One particular picture of Sheffield stays by me. A frightful piece of waste ground (somehow, up here a piece of waste ground attains a squalor that would be impossible even in London), trampled quite bare of grass and littered with newspaper, old saucepans etc. To the right an isolated row of gaunt four room houses, dark red, blackened by smoke. To the left an interminable vista of factory chimneys, chimney behind chimney, fading away into a dim blackish haze. Behind me a railway embankment made from the slag of furnaces. In front, across the piece of waste ground, a cubical building of dingy red and yellow brick, with the sign, 'John Grocock, Haulage Contractor'." Orwell said some complimentary things about Sheffielders but was of course disparaging about the City! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neddy Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Sheffield Indexers, John Grocock, Coal dealer & greengrocer Sorby Street & 15 Ellesmere Road Kelly's 1893 Grocock, John (, Fruiterer, Furniture Remover & Coal Merchant). Residing at 15 Ellesmere Road; yard, Sorby Street, Sheffield in 1905. Recorded in: Whites Directory of Sheffield & Rotherham. Grocock, John (, Fruiterer & furniture remover). Residing at 15 Ellesmere Road & Yard, Sorby Street, in 1911. Recorded in: Whites Directory of Sheffield & Rotherham - 1911. John Grocock, Fruiterer, carting contractor & furniture remover, 15 Ellesmere Road; yard, Sorby Street White's 1919 GROCOCK, John (~, Fruiterer). Residing at 15 Ellesmere Road; Yard, Sorby Street, ~ in 1925. Recorded in: Sheffield & Rotherham Kelly?s Directory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Assuming Grocock's yard was Sorby street, the works would likely have been the Cyclops Works. But I can't see any railway or embankment in the area. Maybe literary licence? Sorby Street area in 1935: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Hobbs on Orwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dunringill99 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 My mother was born on Wallace Road. Number 88 i think. Parents were violet and william lycett. I remember her saying something about george orwell staying there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dunringill99 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Wallace road was on the parkwood springs. Must have been near the railway as she said she used to go and stand on the bridge and wait for the steam trains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughW Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 23/03/2014 at 16:01, Calvin72 said: Where George Orwell stayed with the Searle family from 2nd to 4th of March 1936 whilst researching 'The Road to Wigan Pier'. Where was this area that Orwell describes i wonder? "One particular picture of Sheffield stays by me. A frightful piece of waste ground (somehow, up here a piece of waste ground attains a squalor that would be impossible even in London), trampled quite bare of grass and littered with newspaper, old saucepans etc. To the right an isolated row of gaunt four room houses, dark red, blackened by smoke. To the left an interminable vista of factory chimneys, chimney behind chimney, fading away into a dim blackish haze. Behind me a railway embankment made from the slag of furnaces. In front, across the piece of waste ground, a cubical building of dingy red and yellow brick, with the sign, 'John Grocock, Haulage Contractor'." By the 1930s the haulage depot had moved to Worthing Road Attercliffe/Darnall 1934 Telephone Directory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughW Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Adverts and directory entries do not give a clue as to where on this road, but I believe it is this location, on the 1954 map. (Top coner has Effingham Road between the canal and the Don) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughW Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 "To the right an isolated row of gaunt four room houses, dark red, blackened by smoke. " Looking to the right on the map: Lovetot Road. The pub is the Woodbourn Hotel. I think the pub and 1 or 2 of the houses (now part of the pub) are still there, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughW Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 This 1950 aerial photo, grainy because much enlarged, shows the pub and houses. The white line is 'marking-up' for editing by the firm that took the photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughW Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 From the same 1950 photo, the depot itself with lorries in the yard, the canal in front and Worthing Road behind. The big factory beyond Worthing Road wasn't there in 1936. Note the dark building fronting onto Worthing Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughW Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 That builing is still there... "In front, across the piece of waste ground, a cubical building of dingy red and yellow brick, with the sign, 'John Grocock, Haulage Contractor'." Red and yellow brick. Looks as though it has just been renovated. (Google Street View) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughW Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 "Behind me a railway embankment made from the slag of furnaces. " The building above is just to the right of the words 'Lynne's Cafe'. The depot yard is filled up with a factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughW Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 As an aside the earlier home/office of the Grocock family was 15 Ellesmere Rd. Here's what happened to it... Number 15 to the left (not much left of it). In the middle under the rubble is Clun Road. The damaged house to the right is number 17. Date is 12 Dec 1940. Picture Sheffield image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughW Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Part of No 17 was salvaged and became the Grocock family's fruit shop 1966 photo Picture Sheffield link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leksand Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 28/10/2020 at 01:30, HughW said: "To the right an isolated row of gaunt four room houses, dark red, blackened by smoke. " Looking to the right on the map: Lovetot Road. The pub is the Woodbourn Hotel. I think the pub and 1 or 2 of the houses (now part of the pub) are still there, The map from the survey completed the year prior to Orwell's visit appears to correlate very well with the description. Reproduced with the permission of the National Library of Scotland and this is what remains of the "gaunt four-room houses" - numbers 3&5 Lovetot Road (I think), since taken in to the Woodbourne. The following questions are now raised in this topic: (As a further aside, does anyone know how there came to be two Lovetots Road in such close proximity? They are, I beleive, similarly aligned but am pretty certain they can never have adjoined or even have been planned to be, unless a new bridge was once envisaged. Was the spur from Attercliffe Road formerly called something else? Or is there a route concealed by the long straight buildings evident on google maps?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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