History dude Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 A photograph of the women workers of the "Cammal Laird" 60ft workshop dated 1917. The card on the back says Van Ralty, Artist in Portraiture. They had branches in the north in Manchester, Liverpool, Oldam, Bolton, Nottingham and in Sheffield at 37 Fargate, where this picture would have come from. The only woman that I know for certain is my grandmother, Alice Yeardley. She can be seen 2nd from left, she was about 16 or 17 when it was taken. She has dated the picture to 1917, in ink on the back. Does anyone know what they would be doing in the 60 foot workshop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 and I thought it was Cammel Laird he he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 and I thought it was Cammel Laird Topic title changed .. .... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Does anyone know what they would be doing in the 60 foot workshop? Most likely, this .. www.brigantian.force9.co.uk/gallery/Sheffield_Shell_Workers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
History dude Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 Thanks for that info The spelling of the place was correct as that what was written on the back of the photo :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Thanks for that info The spelling of the place was correct as that what was written on the back of the photo Yes but who wrote it? Did they work for Cammell Laird? Did they have something against them? Or the women? After all Camel Laid women could mean something naughty couldn't it! :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
History dude Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 No they just couldn't spell. Education wasn't like today you know. Kids today are treated like they are 10 at aged 21! Back in 1917 at 14 you were 21! As long as you could read the notices saying "danger" nobody was bothered if you couldn't spell if you were working class. They just didn't want you getting stuck in the works. They had to stop production if that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 No they just couldn't spell. Education wasn't like today you know. Kids today are treated like they are 10 at aged 21! Back in 1917 at 14 you were 21! As long as you could read the notices saying "danger" nobody was bothered if you couldn't spell if you were working class. They just didn't want you getting stuck in the works. They had to stop production if that happened. Well, you said it History Dude! Isn't that exactly what I have been saying about Shakespeare for years lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckweed Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Romantic picture but not one of them has their head covered and doubt the clothing would have given them any protection. Doesn't match with any photos I have seen. Far too clean & dust free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
History dude Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Girls two and three seem to have the style of the clothes seen in the picture I posted of some of the girls, though of course none are wearing any head wear. Their faces however look more Pre-Raphaelite than faces of 1917. Some of them are spitting images of Lizzie Siddal and Jane Morris. The artist must have been a big fan of Morris and D.G.R.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lysander Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The ladies involved in munitions production were known as "Munitionettes". As for "protection", accidents were frequently considered to be the fault of the workers involved...although Factory Acts were starting to make illegal some of the worst working practices....Having said that, in my days at school back in the 1950s, my father, who was a foreman at ESC, would rant at the metal-work teacher for the school not providing goggles when we were using grinding wheels.....needless to say, I was the only lad who had a pair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
togger Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 The ladies involved in munitions production were known as "Munitionettes". Am i wrong in thinking they were also called "Canary Girls" too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siren Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 the "canary girls" were the ones who worked with phosphorous. The phospherous poisoned them and turned the skin yellow. Many died from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lysander Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 The "Canary Girls" worked as "shell fillers" and were exposed to the toxicity given off by the high explosives with which the shells were filled. Amatol and TNT( trinitrotuluene) being two of the usual ones. A symptom of such poisoning was a change in skin colour to a yellowish orange...hence "Canary Girls" but loss of hair, or it turning green, chest pains, nausea, skin irritation and infertility were other symptoms ...which lasted much longer than did the War. Eventually, they were issued with masks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterwarr Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I believe no Sheffield shell work included filling. The shells were sent by rail to one of the National filling Factories. (So there was a lot of transportation around the city and beyond. Petrol was scarce, and horse-and-cart was common in Sheffield.) Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterwarr Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Gosh, I see that was Post Number 101. Do I get a Centurion's badge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Keep 'em coming, I'll give you a kiss when you get to 1,000 ... Gosh, I see that was Post Number 101. Do I get a Centurion's badge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lysander Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Almost all of the factories in Sheffield and District engaged in forging and machining shell cases were rail connected to the then extensive national rail network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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