RichardS Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 A (now dead) chap who knew lots about the history of Intake always said that the house I lived in (now my Father lives in it) many many years ago used to be a pub called the Maltster's Arms, Intake. Found proof at last. Sep 13 1851: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Well found Richard. So where was The Intake Bar exactly ? Somewhere between The Elm Tree and The Noah's obviously but I don't know where. Top of Woodhouse Road ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Well found Richard. So where was The Intake Bar exactly ? Somewhere between The Elm Tree and The Noah's obviously but I don't know where. Top of Woodhouse Road ? It would be interesting to know as vox says, where it was exactly. At present between Elm Tree and Noah's Ark there are, The Ball The Woodthorpe Arms is long gone and is now some new housing The Foxwood, which is behind, but in the same building as, The Embassy Ballroom The Royal Oak Then it's the Noah's Ark and that's about it as the old Sheffield Boundary was at Shire Brook in the bottom of the dip where Intake bus terminus and the Bowling Alley / Squash Club are. At this point Mansfield Road becomes Birley Moor Road and older pubs beyond this point would have technically been in Derbyshire, not Sheffield (..and would have stayed open until 11pm unlike Sheffield pubs which closed at 10:30pm! ) If the Maltsters was on Mansfield Road then as vox says, it must have been somewhere between Elm Tree and Noah's Ark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardS Posted July 17, 2011 Author Share Posted July 17, 2011 The house is joined to 'air' hairdressers, which was Sweeny's previously, opposite and slightly up from the Embassy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 The house is joined to 'air' hairdressers, which was Sweeny's previously, opposite and slightly up from the Embassy. Excellent find RichardS, name, date, premises and I need a map from someone please ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 The house is joined to 'air' hairdressers, which was Sweeny's previously, opposite and slightly up from the Embassy. Hey, I've had my hair cut there a few times. ...and I never knew it was once a boozer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Excellent find RichardS, name, date, premises and I need a map from someone please ... Looks to be number 134 Mansfield Road on the 1950's OS map, numbers could well have differed in previous years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Looks to be number 134 on the 1950's OS map, numbers could well have differed in previous years. So Intake Bar could well have been at the top of Woodhouse Rd. Can't find much mention of it. ----------------------------- Transactions of the Hunter Archaeological Society, Vol 10 "The road into Sheffield near Intake Bar on the Gander Lane Turnpike was repaired with such big pieces of ganister that even the heavy coal carts using it were heavily jolted about." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 James, Joseph. Intake Bar - 1852 ---------------- Burials at St Johns Park POTTS John 20 Nov 1842 Intake Bar 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Looks to be number 134 Mansfield Road on the 1950's OS map, numbers could well have differed in previous years. Could be 134, Google Street Views best guess is 140. I will be going for a haircut within the next 2 weeks when the school holidays start so I will take a closer look for myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 1841 Park House. Intake bar Seaton, Thomas Joseph. Near Intake Bar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 So Intake Bar could well have been at the top of Woodhouse Rd. Can't find much mention of it. ----------------------------- Transactions of the Hunter Archaeological Society, Vol 10 "The road into Sheffield near Intake Bar on the Gander Lane Turnpike was repaired with such big pieces of ganister that even the heavy coal carts using it were heavily jolted about." Not sure vox, but didn't the trams once terminate at that point. Looking at maps from the 1900's, Mansfield Road is not named untill after 1924, prior to 1924 the section of road mentioned (Mansfield Rd) was called Main Road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Not sure vox, but didn't the trams once terminate at that point. Looking at maps from the 1900's, Mansfield Road is not named untill after 1924, prior to 1924 the section of road mentioned (Mansfield Rd) was called Main Road. Did the trams terminate here? It would make sense as the gradients get much steeper beyond this point as the land drops down into the Shire Brook valley, and trams, running with plain metal tyres on smooth rails don't like steep gradients, - up or down. The more usual terminus, used by buses, is as stated earlier down the hill in the bottom of the valley right at the old City boundary. Before 1924 there would be very few people lived down on that last section as the Intake estate was not built until the 1930's and the area had a few farms and was fairly rural so there wouldn't be many people to miss having a tram on that last section and in any case it wouldn't be a massive walk to the tram stop would it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madannie77 Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Did the trams terminate here? It would make sense as the gradients get much steeper beyond this point as the land drops down into the Shire Brook valley, and trams, running with plain metal tyres on smooth rails don't like steep gradients, - up or down. The more usual terminus, used by buses, is as stated earlier down the hill in the bottom of the valley right at the old City boundary. Before 1924 there would be very few people lived down on that last section as the Intake estate was not built until the 1930's and the area had a few farms and was fairly rural so there wouldn't be many people to miss having a tram on that last section and in any case it wouldn't be a massive walk to the tram stop would it. The trams terminated at the junction with Woodhouse Road from April 1902 until February 1935. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 The trams terminated at the junction with Woodhouse Road from April 1902 until February 1935. That's a remarkable statement. I've no reason to doubt it, but, it's impressive all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 The trams terminated at the junction with Woodhouse Road from April 1902 until February 1935. Thanks madannie, I knew it would right but I couldn't put a date to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Unitedite Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 A (now dead) chap who knew lots about the history of Intake always said that the house I lived in (now my Father lives in it) many many years ago used to be a pub called the Maltster's Arms, Intake. Found proof at last. Sep 13 1851: As an aside, there is an interesting report on the same page about the refusal of a license to one Thomas Wostenholme of Woodhouse Mill, [one of my wife's ancestors]. Thomas Wostenholme went on to be landlord of The Princess Royal Inn, Woodhouse Mill, until his untimely demise in 1856, so I suspect that the house mentioned as having "been erected by Mr Hibberd" [whom I also suspect was the landowner - coal mine owner of the Habershon and Hibberd partnership] is very probably The Princess Royal Inn that still exists there today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterside Echo Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 So Intake Bar could well have been at the top of Woodhouse Rd. Can't find much mention of it. ----------------------------- Transactions of the Hunter Archaeological Society, Vol 10 "The road into Sheffield near Intake Bar on the Gander Lane Turnpike was repaired with such big pieces of ganister that even the heavy coal carts using it were heavily jolted about." Number 75 Mansfield Road [another hairdressers ] looks as though it may have been built as a pub. W/E.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Number 75 Mansfield Road [another hairdressers ] looks as though it may have been built as a pub. W/E.. Image courtesy of Google Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 A (now dead) chap who knew lots about the history of Intake always said that the house I lived in (now my Father lives in it) many many years ago used to be a pub called the Maltster's Arms, Intake. Found proof at last. Sep 13 1851: Found one ! Mrs. Elizabeth Handley, Maltster's Arms P.H. Intake, Handsworth. Kelly's 1854 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Well found Richard. So where was The Intake Bar exactly ? Somewhere between The Elm Tree and The Noah's obviously but I don't know where. Top of Woodhouse Road ? Did not 'TP' represent the location of a turnpike gate, if so wouldn't this have been the Intake Bar ? 1854 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 A (now dead) chap who knew lots about the history of Intake always said that the house I lived in (now my Father lives in it) many many years ago used to be a pub called the Maltster's Arms, Intake. Found proof at last. Sep 13 1851: Thank you RichardS in finding this you have given us two new ones that are not on the A to Z. The Maltster's Arms Intake and also The Gate Woodhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Number 75 Mansfield Road [another hairdressers ] looks as though it may have been built as a pub. W/E.. On Norfolk Park they shut down pubs and turn them into churches. On the main route out from City Road they shut pubs and turn them into supermarkets. On Herdings and Charnock they shut down pubs and turn them into Indian restraunts. But at Intake they shut down pubs and turn them into Hairdressers That's the good thing about pubs, they are so versatile! ..Just a pity you can't get a decent drink at any of them any more! :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Did not 'TP' represent the location of a turnpike gate, if so wouldn't this have been the Intake Bar ? 1854 If it is, then it was right where the "new" fire station now stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 If it is, then it was right where the "new" fire station now stands. There could easily have been a pub at that point, It would have been very handy for thirsty miners finishing their underground shift at the old coal mine which was on the same site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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