Guest agenge Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Hi, I am hoping someone may be able to help my curiousity for Barnes Hall, Grenoside. I have inherited a dinning room table from my Grandad (Richard Stoney-Smith) who my mother tells me lived at Branes Hall. The table was commissioned by Hon. Robert Hancock for Barnes Hall and I think may have been the person to have built Barnes Hall. The table was to become Robert Hancocks downfall (My GrandFather's Uncle Bob) he died after hitting his head crawling under the table and bleeding to death. I am curious about any history anyone may have of Barnes Hall, if anyone has any information about the place I could probably get a good few story's and history from my mother about the place. Apparently it was another relative (uncle of uncle I think) who owned a substancial place nearby, which went on to become a hospital. It maybe possible to drill down thorugh my Grandfathers Notes to find more details about this place if I knew this places name or any details. I am interested in any details or happy to share if anyone is interested. Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Hi, I am hoping someone may be able to help my curiousity for Barnes Hall, Grenoside. William Smith Solicitor (S. & Hinde) h. Barnes Hall (White's 1852) Francis Patrick Smith, Barnes Hall, Grenoside (Kelly's 1893) Philip Gatty Smith, Solicitor & commisioner for oaths (S.S. & Fielding) h. Barnes Hall, Grenoside (White's 1911) Philip Gatty Smith, Solicitor & Commissioner for Oaths (S S & Fielding) h. Barnes Hall, Grenoside (White's 1919) William Mackenzie Smith, Solicitor & Commissioner for Oaths & Clerk to the Commissioners of Taxes, Meetinghouse Lane; h. Barnes Hall, Grenoside (Kelly's 1925) That'll be the Smiths then; Good Luck ! and Welcome to Sheffield History Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Hi, I am hoping someone may be able to help my curiousity for Barnes Hall, Grenoside. Elliott Lane ?? Is that the place; built 1824? (Never heard of it, but then ...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Elliott Lane ?? Is that the place; built 1824? (Never heard of it, but then ...) Re-built 1824; previously the Seat of Sir Richard Scott ... apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest agenge Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Many thanks for the fast reply, I am wondering if Francis could be "uncle Frank" from my grandfather's notes. He would have been his great uncle. My Grand Father (born 1901) ""I was taken to stay with his brothers, great uncles and their families. These were elderly country squires living in nice houses with park-like surroundings such as you find in yorkshire. They had made thier money in business, the chief family concern that I know of being "the Don Brewery" in sheffield with which uncle Frank still had connections when I was a boy."" I think I am starting to make sense of these notes and family history. I think my dinning room table was not commissioned at Barnes hall but was craeted by Hon Robert Hancock who married Hon Mrs Hancock (I have no name) Thier daughter Edith Anne emestone Hancock Married Col. Herbert Stoney-Smith who must have been the brother or Francis Patrick Smith. Sorry for the long winded notes which are probably hard for anyone to understand but I think the Branes hall history is from my great grandfathers family side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miked Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Theres early stuff in Hallamshire book/s and recently saw a postcard on Ebay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 See pages 411 - 416 for Barnes Hall history: History of the Parish of Ecclesfield - Eastwood 1862 plus many other odd references to it throughout the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 More information here: bibliography of sheffield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lakin Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 2 Maps from 1637 & 1790. Uploaded by T.Hey On the 1637 Map it shows that Sir Richard Scott owned lots of land. On the 1790 Map i have put a red ring round Barnes Hall. Your comment "Apparently it was another relative (uncle of uncle I think) who owned a substantial place nearby, which went on to become a hospital." I do remember many years ago knowing about an hospital very near to Barnes Hall. & it is within the lands owned by Sir Richard Scott on the 1637 Map. I remember seeing it from the road side. It had a very long driveway. I never went up to it because i was always told it was a mental hospital & they would chase you & try to kill you. So as a kid we never went up their. I think it as been knocked down now but i will find out & pin point it on a map for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 y01769 The first Barnes Hall, Chapeltown, Seat of Sir Richard Scott, prior to construction of present house which was built 1824 The family of Scott and Watts lived at Barnes Hall in the early 1500's, and it was inherited by a descendant, Henrietta Horton (1790-1827), who sold it to William Smith of Cowley Manor in 1823. He married Miss Parkin of Mortomley Hall, and rebuilt it in 1824. s05323 Barnes Hall, off Elliott Lane, Chapeltown. Built by William Smith The home of Col. W. Mackenzie Smith and Lady Mabel Smith https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s05715&pos=23&action=zoom&id=9128 https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;v00781&pos=21&action=zoom&id=42584 Barnes Hall 5th May 1953 https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s05321&pos=4&action=zoom&id=8774 Stone inscription at Barnes Hall, off Elliott Lane, Chapeltown. Reads; 'As the hovre doth pas, so doth the life of man. His tearme is set and pas it no man can. Wisdome crieth at the gates at the entry of the city at the coming in at the dore.' https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;y01760&pos=8&action=zoom&id=49233 The sundial overlooking the kitchen garden at Barnes Hall, off Elliott Lane, Chapeltown. The sundial was probably the work of Samuel Walker, who was engaged by Sir William Horton and bore the inscription 'DISCE DIES NUMERARARE TUOS.' 1738. Restored. Photograph dated 25th May 1957. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;y01758&pos=6&action=zoom&id=49231 https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;y01759&pos=7&action=zoom&id=49232 Stable Block. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;y01762&pos=10&action=zoom&id=49235 Window dated 1825 and old gas lamp over the stable block doors at Barnes Hall, off Elliott Lane, Chapeltown https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;y01761&pos=9&action=zoom&id=49234 Gardens of Barnes Hall. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s09691&pos=24&action=zoom&id=12857 Barnes Hall Lodge, Elliott Lane. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;t01548&pos=20&action=zoom&id=32350 Barnes Hall Lodge, July 1989. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s36798&pos=1&action=zoom&id=73115 s08943 Smith Family, believed to be taken at Barnes Hall, Chapeltown. y10574 Boer War: Lieutenant Stephen Alexander Smith, Imperial Yeomanry, the third son of Mr F. P. Smith, of Barnes Hall, and the grandson of the Late William Smith, and also of the venerable vicar of Ecclesfield, Dr Alfred Gatty. He had previously been in the Yorkshire Dragoons, and was one of the foremost to volunteer for the front. Smith was appointed as Lieutenant in the 11th Company, 3rd Battalion Imperial Yeomanry (Yorkshire Detachment) which left Liverpool in the Winifredian, on the 28th January, 1900. He was educated at Uppingham School: is a fine athlete, and has made himself very popular in local cricket circles. Image from Sheffield at the Front (page 42) (Printed and Published by The Sheffield Independent Press Limited). Ref: Sheffield Local Studies Library: 968.2 SF y10575 Boer War: Lieutenant Leonard Kirk Smith, Barnes Hall, Sheffield (Royal Scots). Smith is also the son of Mr F. P. Smith, of Barnes Hall. He holds a commission as 1st Lieutenant of the 2nd Battalion Royal Scots. When the Government decided to have mounted infantry in South Africa, he was selected, together with a number of men. He left England in the Cephalonia, on October 24th, 1899, and eventually joined General French's command. Took part in the operations around Colesberg and in the subsequent advances made by General French on Bloemfontein. His chief work has been scouting. He was very successful at Charterhouse and Sandhurst Schools, and is well known in the cricket field. He received his commission in 1897. Image from Sheffield at the Front (page 42) (Printed and Published by The Sheffield Independent Press Limited). Ref: Sheffield Local Studies Library: 968.2 SF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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