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MEET Michael Liversidge, founder of the Sheffield Dead Pubs Society. Only joking, but he has just brought out a picture book about them. Time Gentlemen, Please, sub-titled The Demise of the Sheffield Public House, lists well over a hundred. What's more, Michael's had a drink in most of them. We're outside the Tramway Hotel on London Road. He's supped there as well. There are two pictures of it in his book, both of them with trams on. "Pubs are our social history. At one time you'd trust the landlord of your local with your money before the bank. It's getting that way again," he says. Pubs can demise in Michael's book in several ways. They can be demolished like the Rose Inn on Penistone Road, Hillsborough, to make way for a McDonalds, or the Hole in the Wall on Savile Street. Then there was the Enfield on Broughton Lane, Carbrook. "Me and my father had a drink in there and two weeks later I was driving past and it had been demolished. No one had said a word." But at least he had a picture of it. Then there was the White Horse on Malinda Street. "It fell down while being renovated," says the caption. Others are still standing but empty, like The Viaduct on The Wicker, the Shiregreen Hotel on Sicey Avenue, or the Queens Hotel on Scotland Street. And some have been given different uses. The Mill Tavern, also known as the Albion Hotel and Old Mill Tavern, on Earsham Street, Pitsmoor, had one too many for the road and is now an undertakers. The Staniforth arms on Staniforth Road is now a restaurant, while the Old Blue Bell on Worksop Road, which once sold Gilmour's Windsor Ales, is a mosque. The Norfolk Arms on Attercliffe Road has become a sauna. Quite a few have been turned into flats, like the Royal Hotel on Abbeydale Road. Some pubs don't go without a fight. The Talbot on Hoyle Street became Ye Old Toad and then the Good Doctor, but to no avail. It was pulled down. Occasionally a pub does a runner. There's a picture of the old Harlequin on Johnson Street, which has moved round the corner and taken up residence in the former Manchester Arms on Nursery Street. "The book charts the changes and developments of the city," says Michael, who brought out an A-Z of Sheffield Pubs 10 years ago. Then the pictures were postage stamp-sized to make way for the text and he got several hundred letters from readers wanting to see the pictures. "It's taken 10 years but I've done it." Among the dead pubs is the Players Cafe on Attercliffe Common, which is a bit of a cheat as it was a short-lived restaurant. "It sold beer," said Michael, who made sure he had a pint there and who included it for sentimental reasons. "It was my old school, Carbrook Elementary. I was in a pub from five to 11!" n Published by Pickard Communication at £12.99 from local shops or: www.youbooks.co.uk http://www.thestar.co.uk/diary/Spirit-of-t...-pub.4250349.jp
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MEET Michael Liversidge, founder of the Sheffield Dead Pubs Society. Only joking, but he has just brought out a picture book about them. Time Gentlemen, Please, sub-titled The Demise of the Sheffield Public House, lists well over a hundred. What's more, Michael's had a drink in most of them. We're outside the Tramway Hotel on London Road. He's supped there as well. There are two pictures of it in his book, both of them with trams on. "Pubs are our social history. At one time you'd trust the landlord of your local with your money before the bank. It's getting that way again," he says. Pubs can demise in Michael's book in several ways. They can be demolished like the Rose Inn on Penistone Road, Hillsborough, to make way for a McDonalds, or the Hole in the Wall on Savile Street. Then there was the Enfield on Broughton Lane, Carbrook. "Me and my father had a drink in there and two weeks later I was driving past and it had been demolished. No one had said a word." But at least he had a picture of it. Then there was the White Horse on Malinda Street. "It fell down while being renovated," says the caption. Others are still standing but empty, like The Viaduct on The Wicker, the Shiregreen Hotel on Sicey Avenue, or the Queens Hotel on Scotland Street. And some have been given different uses. The Mill Tavern, also known as the Albion Hotel and Old Mill Tavern, on Earsham Street, Pitsmoor, had one too many for the road and is now an undertakers. The Staniforth arms on Staniforth Road is now a restaurant, while the Old Blue Bell on Worksop Road, which once sold Gilmour's Windsor Ales, is a mosque. The Norfolk Arms on Attercliffe Road has become a sauna. Quite a few have been turned into flats, like the Royal Hotel on Abbeydale Road. Some pubs don't go without a fight. The Talbot on Hoyle Street became Ye Old Toad and then the Good Doctor, but to no avail. It was pulled down. Occasionally a pub does a runner. There's a picture of the old Harlequin on Johnson Street, which has moved round the corner and taken up residence in the former Manchester Arms on Nursery Street. "The book charts the changes and developments of the city," says Michael, who brought out an A-Z of Sheffield Pubs 10 years ago. Then the pictures were postage stamp-sized to make way for the text and he got several hundred letters from readers wanting to see the pictures. "It's taken 10 years but I've done it." Among the dead pubs is the Players Cafe on Attercliffe Common, which is a bit of a cheat as it was a short-lived restaurant. "It sold beer," said Michael, who made sure he had a pint there and who included it for sentimental reasons. "It was my old school, Carbrook Elementary. I was in a pub from five to 11!" n Published by Pickard Communication at £12.99 from local shops or: www.youbooks.co.uk http://www.thestar.co.uk/diary/Spirit-of-t...-pub.4250349.jp
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Thanks a lot everyone for all your help! Sue that's a bit of coincidence my Nan Elsie Rudge was born on Whitworth Lane Attercliffe! Thanks to a mate, I may be making some head way it turns out that some Rudge's on Ancestry have been transcribed as Ridge and Phil found an Ernest aged 12 in 1901 which ties in! Again thanks to all of you, it was really doing my head in this weekend! Andrew
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Driving into Durham the other day my wife was reading aloud to me from "The History of Sheffield High Street", she is, bless her interested in Old Sheffield, Campo Lane, Hartshead, Church Street and particularly High Street and the Market Square of old. As we approached Durham Town Centre her task was to negotiate us round the roundabouts so we could find the daughters new flat. Easy enough except for the no entries and one-way systems that plague us all. There was a silence then she said "I can't find the roundabout !" (A690 - pretty major item) ... <pause> I glanced over and spotting the second of Sheffield's four Town Halls and Virgins Row, I burst out laughing - Yup, she'd got Gosling's 1736 Map, wrong Town and only 272 years adrift ! Were there many "Ye Roundabouts" in Olde Sheffield Towne ?
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Theres a William here. Taken from Treeton web 1861 census note stepson/stepdaughter. Like now we name our children after aunts and uncles, just another avenue to explore 45,33 Mill Lane, Treeton nr Sheffield George Kyte,Head,M,30,,Coal Miner,Employed,Stafford Staffordshire, Mary A Kyte,Wife,M,,39,,,Presteigne Radnorshire, James Rudge,Stpson,S,18,,Coal Miner,Employed,Masbro Yorkshire, Flora E Rudge,Stpdau,,,16,,,Masbro Yorkshire, Annie A Rudge,Stpdau,,,13,,,Masbro Yorkshire, William A Rudge,Stpson,,8,,Scholar,,Coalford Gloucestershire, Lillian L Rudge,Stpdau,,,3,,,Treeton Yorkshire, Jonah Stenton,Lodger,S,28,,Coal Miner,Employed,Wolverhampton Staffordshire Treetonweb 1861 The 1881 family search index looking further afield has a William H Rudge in the Yorkshire area Park Row, Normanton, York, England George RUDGE Head M 42 Cinderford, Gloucester, England Coal Miner Emily RUDGE Wife M 34 Chipstead, Kent, England Elizabeth RUDGE Dau 14 Cinderford William H. RUDGE Son 11 Cinderford Scholar George RUDGE Son 8 London, London, Middlesex, England Scholar Ann L. RUDGE Dau 6 Altofts, York, England Scholar Appaytina RUDGE Dau 4 Normanton, York, England Ernest RUDGE Son 2 Normanton, York, England Florence RUDGE Dau 2 m Normanton, York, England doesnt that fit with the age of your William its a long shot but possable. Sue would you believe it ive found a pudler Windmill Hill N S Cradley, Worcester, England William RUDGE Head M Male 32 Halesowen, Worcester, England Ironworker Pudler Truann RUDGE Wife M Female 33 Cradley, Worcester, England John A. RUDGE Son Male 5 Cradley, Worcester, England Scholar William H. RUDGE Son Male 1 Cradley, Worcester, England Ellen R. RUDGE Daur Female 7 Cradley, Worcester, England Scholar Truann RUDGE Daur Female 3 Cradley, Worcester, England Is this William H is a little too young though?
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Spanner, works, a, the, throwing, into - probably Sheffield map 1849 area is shown as Sted Bank, with a well nearby and Howard House shown, presumably on Howard Street. There is also (up the hill) nearer Dark Lane a place shown as Heavy Gate.
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Where were the following districts of Sheffield please
RichardB replied to RichardB's topic in Sheffield History Chat
Longstone Lane ?? -
Which narrow lane, a nest of filth and iniquity, was "improved off the face of the earth". (Assortment of clues : There was a Pub on there; I firmly believe a thoroughfare of the same name exists to this day, Central, i.e. part of Sheffield Town; no more than 300 yards from the Cathedral; Eadon; Westbar Green)
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Has anyone got any information etc on when the housing in that area of Sheffield was built, and by who. The area is private housing and a combination of detached, semi-detached and bungalows. It is quite a large area stretching from Abbey Lane upto the borders with Bradway, inc Westwick Road, Crescent. Old Park Road, Avenue, Cockshutt Road, Crescent etc. Any info would be welcome
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Sheffield Cafe's Of The Past
RichardB replied to Sheffield History's topic in Sheffield History Chat
Kelly's 1925 Cafe Listing Gambit Cafe, refreshment rooms Commercial Street John Arthy Cafe Manager 42 Peveril Road Mrs Della Berry Cafe Psalter Lane Arthur Davy & Sons Ltd. Victoria Café Proprietor 40 Fargate Kosie Kabin Cafe Sheaf Street William Stephenson Exchange Restaurant & Cafe 20 Castle Street Albert Surfleet Cafe manager 56 Roach Road Sidney Waterfall Cafe proprietor 31 Chapel Walk; h. 17 Wiseton Road Sidney Waterfall Proprietor, Japanese Kiosque Cafe 31 Surrey Street -
Sheffield Cafe's Of The Past
RichardB replied to Sheffield History's topic in Sheffield History Chat
1919 White's Cafe Listing John Arthy Cafe manager 42 Peveril Road William Bashford Secretary, Tontine Cafe Co. Limited, refreshment rooms 2 Dixon Lane Arthur Davy & Sons Ltd. Victoria Café Proprietor 40 Fargate Reuben Freeman Manager St Philip's Cafe 69 & 71 Penistone Road Gambit Cafe ((Sheffield) Limited) Commercial Street King's Cafe (Birmingham) Limited, Registered Office 33 Gainsford Road, Darnall Pickard & Rooke Proprietors, Haymarket Cafe and Hotel Haymarket & King Street Thomas Robson Manager, Wentworth Cafe Pinstone Street William Stephenson Exchange restaurant & cafe 20 Castle Street; h. 10 Victoria Road Tea For Two Cafe (in connection with the YMCA Settlement) Oxford Street, St Philip's Sidney Waterfall Cafe proprietor 31 Chapel Walk; h. 17 Wiseton Road Sidney Waterfall Proprietor, Japanese Kiosque Cafe 31 Surrey Street Charles Joshua Whitehead General Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd., cocoa & coffee house house proprietor Johnson Lane Ye Campo Cafe 24 Campo Lane I like Ye Campo !!! -
Sheffield Cafe's Of The Past
RichardB replied to Sheffield History's topic in Sheffield History Chat
White's 1911 Cafe Listing Arthur Davy Propietors & Sons Limited (Victoria Café) 40 a Fargate Misses Moore & Stewart Cafe 31 Chapel Walk Miss Mary Ellen Moore (& Stewart) Cafe proprietor h. 91 Rock Street Frederick William Robinson Cafe manager 73 Broomspring Lane William Stephenson Exchange restaurant & cafe 20 Castle Street; h. 10 Victoria Road William Summers Cafe 161 Neill Road Charles Joshua Whitehead Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. h. 10 Favell Road, Brookhill Can't help feeling there should be a lot more entries than this ... -
Sheffield Cafe's Of The Past
RichardB replied to Sheffield History's topic in Sheffield History Chat
Kelly's 1893 Cafe listing (Surname order) Charley Henry Ball Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 26 South Street, Moor John Henry Banks Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. Wentworth Cafe, 12 Pinstone Street M Bark Manageress, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 6 Market Street Walter Bland Proprietor St Philip's Road Cafe 49 Upper St Philip's Road William Brown Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 266 Moorfields Miss Florence Cooke Manageress, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. Albany temperance hotel, Fargate Miss F M Cooke Manageress, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. The Albany Hotel, Fargate William Ellis Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 360 Savile Street Alfred Furniss Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. Wostenholm Hall, Queen Street Henry Hill Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 23 Exchange Street Arthur Jones Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 417 Attercliffe Road Jacob Maltby Manager Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 765 Attercliffe Road Joseph Maltby Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 765 Attercliffe Road William Henry Middleton Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 3 Broad Street, Park Samuel Middleton Branch Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. London Road George Murfitt Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 30 & 32 High Street C Robertshaw Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 33 Arundel Street Frederick Robinson Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 15 Eyre Street Frederick Robinson Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 17 Howard Street Thomas Robson Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 3 & 5 Mowbray Street Charles Simpson Secretary, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. Great Northern Chambers, Fargate Joseph Smith Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 153 Porter Street Henry Smith Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 29 Haymarket Henry Smith Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 34 Castle Street Joseph Smith Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 54 Sylvester Street Henry Smith Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 59 West Bar Henry Smith Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. The Lawson Cocoa House, 59 West Bar Henry Warrington Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 105 Devonshire Street Charles J Whitehead Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 1 Bank Street Charles Joshua Whitehead General Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. Johnson Lane, Wicker John Wright Manager, Sheffield Cafe Co. Ltd. 55 & 57 Wicker (A first name for M Bark and C Robertshaw would be nice !) -
The book in which I came across this picture of King Street ( Pudding Lane ) claims that the white building on the right was the debtors Goal BEFORE it moved to Scotland Street in 1818.!
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Black Five (Steam Loco) through Sheffield (& Barnsley ) 29th June 08
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Have to agree - Very Good shot indeed Busman! I saw it in Sheffield station at around 10am, when I was driving out of Harmer Lane with the Sheffield Regent V! -
Thanks for that Dunsbyowl. What we saw could not have been the colliery which your map shows to be in the area which is now Dunmow Rd and the bottom of Popple St and Robey St ( only a short distance from where I was born on Hinde House Lane) . Its a really interesting map as it shows a tramway going up the back side of Wincobank hill. I think some of what was the colliery area is now a Council Depot ( or was when I lived in Sheffield 30 years ago) ! At present I am transcribing Grimesthorpe School admission records from the early 1920's for Sheffield Indexers so the road names are very familier ! John
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The Nook and Barber Nook are not the same thing. The Nook is a cul-de-sac on the left side of Barber Road going up. Barber Nook, which is much older, is on the other side near the co-op. It was there as a farm/hamlet in the middle of fields before anything else around it was built (including Barber Road). It still contains the old house (18th century or earlier?) which was the home of the BARBER family. Sheffield Local Register 22 Aug 1840 Decease of Mr. Wm. Barber, of Barber Nook, cattle dealer, aged 62. A little later there was a Miss Barber (daughter?) who gave land for the creation of Barber Road. 1851 Ordnance Survey Map Crookesmoor Road at bottom right. Commonside a little way off the map at top left. I think that Barber Road is a bit to the left of the line of 'Barber Nook Lane'. Hugh
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Assume you mean Broughton Lane. Broughton Rd is in Sheffield 6. That gives us a bit more to go on.
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In the list above...are they all Coal mines? I know that around Sheffield there was quite a few 'Gannister' mines. This was some sort of clay used to make bricks for kilns. If you go to Archer Road and turn up towards Hutcliffe Wood Cemetery there is a random section of wall on the left hand side......this is all that remains of the Gannister mine that was there.
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When I left school in 1974, I worked at Brookhouse pit for 4 years, which isn't mentioned on this list. It may have been confused with Beighton, but as I understand it Brookhouse was a totally different pit, it was situated between Beighton and Swallownest, and is now under the Rother Valley Country Park.
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Cheers fellas, Rawmarsh is out in the sticks towards ladybower? As for the Devon connection Richard B spot on John Searle, Francis John Mills Searle's Dad was born in Dawlish Devon about 1809. Went to archives today and found his burial plot, I can see why people got almost addicted to this stuff! Interesting about the Stubbin too, I'm from Firth Park originally and there's a Stubbin Lane, does Stubbin mean something? The employing 14 men bit I think had summat to do with 'brass turning' and he lived on St Mary's Road at the time, last I saw was he lived at Balby Hexthorpe Donny! Cheers for looking I appreciate it anymore leads would be great! Andrew
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More of a hint towards "who was the man that gave his name (incorrectly spelled) to the Street that is The Lane that used to be White House Lane that has these White Houses on it at some undetermined point in the past ?" which is quite some question he he
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Hi all Does anyone have any clue as to the period when the photograph of the old Whitehouses, Bramall Lane, Sheffield, might have been taken. The photograph is located on the Picture Sheffield.com site. http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/pi...ff.refno=s05913 Thanks Leipzig :blink:
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Oh right that makes sense cos there's a Pit Lane near there. Always assumed they'd be Pits in Pitsmoor obvioulsy cos of the name. My 3xGreat Grandad was a clay/coal miner lived in Attercliffe, guess it was used for the steelworks
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All the tunnels & shafts are probably still there ! When my sister bought a house in Pitsmoor the survey referred to the possibility of subsidence from mineworkings. I understand the Brightside pit was where the town gas plant ? was on Holywell Road.
