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  2. Hello Edmund . do you know if that was Sibray Hall & Co Ltd who I think were the successors to Sibray Hall & Co., or was the company re-formed as a Ltd company after this event. EDIT I think I can answer my own question I have just seen a 1908 piece marked Sibray Hall & Co Ltd .
  3. Sibray, Hall, and Company of 111-115 St Mary's Road, silver and electro-plate manufacturers and merchants were put in the hands of the official receiver with unsecured liabilities of £2,614 7s 7d in April 1931. A winding up order had been made in February. In June 1929 they had to take out a loan on their Fitzwalter Works to pay for a loan coming due with Lloyds Bank.
  4. As long as the Route Number and Destination are changed on the model, yes! The nearest the 53 got to the Wicker Arches was Nursery Street/Waingate, unless the driver missed the turn into Nursery Street
  5. Just a thought but I have only seen the Sydney Hall & Co mark shown in two rectangles where as the mark on the scissors is in two lozenges and a rectangle more like the Sibray Hall & Co. mark. I am not sure when Sibray Hall closed or were taken over or also whether that mark was used on silver or just silver plate. Unfortunately I haven't a better picture of the Sibray Hall one, I think this one was taken from a round object so is a bit out of shape.
  6. Yes, we sometimes had that type of bus on the Prince of Wales Circular, route 71.
  7. So in theory that model of the bus could be seen going under the Wicker Arches around 1967? Yes or no anybody?
  8. hi all just to update the bible is back with family in Beverley linda
  9. My memory of the 40's/50's is that the Thorpe Hesley was always the 58 and still was in the 1970 timetable. I also associate Fitzalan Square as its starting point but may be mixing it up with the 29 which served Blackburn (the Wincobank one!). Both those routes were single deck buses. The only places I can think of on Halifax Road where a reversing manoeuvre might have been allowed would be the junctions with Chaucer Road or Cowper Avenue. However this is based on my late 50's early 60's familiarity of the area. At that time the 'B' fleet would operate the longer services beyond Wadsley Bridge. Does this help or cloud the matter more!
  10. Aftermath of a boiler explosion, (1889) Don Works, Doncaster Street. http://www.picturesheffield.com/u10411 http://www.picturesheffield.com/u10412 Southern and Richardson Ltd., (1965) Cutlery Manufacturers, Don Cutlery Works, Thomas Street. http://www.picturesheffield.com/s19921
  11. Thank you SteveHB and Edmund for adding info to this post. Anybody know about the silversmithing? Did Hall & Co have a base in Sheffield or were the silver parts just "bough in" from Birmingham for Sheffield assay? Thanks Kalfred
  12. Fulwood Termius, Canterbury Ave 501 looks brand new in this shot so I’m guessing that means it was taken in the late 40’s.
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  14. More a question than an answer, and from a very vague memory but before the 53 route took over from the tram route was the Thorpe Hesley route not number 53. If so I can't remember what the number was changed to in the 60's. Also did the 53 before going to Parson Cross at some time turn at Grenoside or somewhere close, I seem to have memories of reversing somewhere up Halifax Road or further out.
  15. The Nov 1970 bus timetable shows the 42 Foxhill and 53 Parson Cross jointly working the through route. An undated picture in Chas C Hall's book of Leyland Atlantean 889 shows " One of the first Atlanteans being inspected by the Mayor and other officials...." the front indicator shows the number 53 and 'Private'. This was one of a batch with fleet numbers 881-899 Leyland PDR1/1 MCW bodied 78 seaters received in mid-1959.and with WJ registration letters after the fleet number. At the time of publishing the book (1977) no disposal dates are shown for any of that batch. The model (I think) came out in the early 90's made in China for EFE (Gilbow (Holdings) Ltd -Hemel Hempstead).Model No. 16506. it carries no Registration Plate details, front or rear, but has the other decals. Daimler Fleetline versions used the same chassis.
  16. Southern and Richardson was formed in 1828 by Francis Southern and Samuel Richardson, their partnership being dissolved in February 1869 and Mr Richardson continued alone, at their Don Works in Doncaster Street. In 1928 Samuel Gray Richardson retired as Chairman after 60 years, and serving as Master Cutler in 1889.
  17. White's directory, published 1911. Kelly's 1957.
  18. Hello is I was trawling through Ebay’s scissors looking for a scissorsmith when I saw the scissors shown below. I was intrigued and I had to have a bid, all be it, ultimately unsuccessfully. I felt I must post a photo, as these grape scissors are certainly “Sheffield”. These mixed metal scissors are easy to date using the date letter associated with the hallmark on the silver finger holes. The unembellished letter “o” without a Monarch’s head, together with the crown (for Sheffield) indicates the assay at the Sheffield Assay Office in 1931. The maker of the silver part of the scissors is indicated by the “S.H.&Co.” but I will reference that later. We can see from the rear pivot area of the scissors that the blades are made of Sheffield England stainless steel and from the pivot front we a clear pictorial probable trademark with lettering below it. The “nest” with eggs in was the trademark of Sheffield’s Southern & Richardson and I think you will be able to “fill in the spaces” to confirm that makers name. These cutlery makers were known at the “Don Cutlery Works” from the middle of the 19th century and there are several images of knives spread around the forum. One of these did suggest the trademark was a “thistle” or has this been a mis-interpretation of the image on a much older and tarnished knife compared to these 20th century scissors. From a reference I think I read on line, technically, the grape scissors may not have been made by “Southern & Richardson” as in the 1920s that named company had been incorporated into a larger Sheffield concern and the latter continued with the trademarks. Hopefully the “forum” can clear this up. Returning to the “S.H.&Co.” maker’s mark now. The website www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk that I always confidently use for identifying British silversmiths, identifies the silver finger parts as having been made “probably, by Sydney Hall & Co”, and gives them an address of “Birmingham”. If there is other information regarding the maker please enlighten us, as there will be would be many interested to know. I hope there are others on the forum, like me, who like and wish they owned the grape scissors. Kalfred
  19. Yes, not sure of the exact dates but I remember it was one of the first Atlantean buses in the area. Used to catch it roughly where the new Asda is today.
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  21. Was the 53 Bus to Parson's Cross running between 1966 to 1969? There's a model of one and I'm trying to pin it down
  22. 25 years ago today Supertram was officially opened by Princess Anne. A plaque was unveiled on Park Square, anybody know where it is now? Nigel L
  23. After leaving school at 15 l worked in the tool room as apprentice diesinker & toolmaker from early1963 till about late 1966.I remember most of the men in the tool room Allen Warren (apprentice) Trevor Stone, Graham? Harry ? (Toolmaker) Tony Damms (apprentice) & and one we called Mad Mountain sorry forgot his real name.Those men & women that work in the forge making the knifes really had a hot,dirty job & were on piecework so had to work hard to earn a living,but they all seemed a good crowd
  24. That's something I never would have though of Adrian , it certainly looks like it would do the job of stylus with a thin braille slate. I thought of a tracing stylus, if that is the correct term, for tracing patterns using carbon paper, but for both purposes it would be a bit cumbersome to use and there would only be a very small market for one on a knife. But Richards seem to have been a very forward thinking company who were always looking for new ideas / marketing techniques.
  25. Hi boginspro,about my two (pen)knives ,the one that unscrews to take a birow ink pen is the S/S one but the other faux m.o.p one doesn't unscrew but the pen end looks solid steel,Was wondering if anyone knows if it could have been used to write brail for blind people or would that be totally out of the question.?
  26. I haven't found any maps that seem to show exactly the same field boundaries or tree lines. so went for that location only because I can't see anywhere else it could be.
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