Guest Yorklancs Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Sheffield and Hallamshire Veterans Guild I am researching the above Guild that I believe was set up in Sheffield in 1892 by Public Subscription. Sometimes known as the Indian Mutiny and Crimean Veterans Association it lasted I think till the early 1920s when the last of the Veterans passed away. Round about the 1890s there was a public outcry at the way the old Mutiny and Crimean Soldiers were treated. Many had taken to begging on the streets and there were calls in Parliament for pensions to be raised. In Sheffield following various public meetings I believe the above Guild was set up by Sir John Bingham and public subscription was set up to raise funds to supplement their annual pensions. They had an Annual Dinner and round about November each year they marched to Ranmoor Church for their Annual Service. At one time they had about 130 Pensioners receiving support from the Guild and by the time of the 1901 Dinner the numbers had dropped to 53. By the time of Private Peter Melville’s Funeral in June 1916 it was reported that just 14 were left. I have managed to acquire one of the insignia for the Guild and I enclose details. These apparently were worn with a sash. I enclose a picture of Melville with his sash and medals. The President was Lt Col J E Bingham (later Sir J E Bingham, Bart), R Colver , treasurer and C Partington Secretary I would like to hear from any members of the forum who have any details of this group and in particular if any photos still exist . Any information will be gratefully received. I am intending to research this group and naturally I did not want to go over old ground. Below is a picture of Melville wearing this Insignia Yours sincerely Andrew Grantham Private Peter Melville.doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Sheffield and Hallamshire Veterans Guild Insignia. Large cast gilt metal badge comprising a laurel wreath surmounted by the Royal Crest; within the wreath a title strap; the centre with representation of Royal Shield, rifles, anchor, star etc. Suspended below the badge, the figure of St, George and Dragon. Reverse, with replacement pin pitting, inscribed 'Lt. Col. J.E. Bingham, President. RC Colver Esq, Treasurer, C. Partington Hon Sec.' City of Sheffield 1983 letter States they have a similar medal awarded to Trop Sergeant-Major Francis Dickinson, 17th Lancers who survived the Charge of the Light Brigade. Colonel Bingham commanded 1st W, York RE Volunteers, his 1915 obituary states his great interest in the welfare of old soldiers and in the 1892 Crimean and Indian Veterans Association. Bosleys have recorded another one of these medals, awarded to Pte C Partington 1st Rl Dragoons, appeared at auction with his Crimean Medals in 1996. http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/sheffield-and-hallamshire-veterans-guild-insignia-1-c-dbc2165f53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yorklancs Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Thanks for replying Richard You have identified where I bought it from Regards Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Shows I looked, if nothing else ! I was hoping to find more ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emo924 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I believe the Hallamshire Veterans Guild was introduced by Sir John Bingham reflecting the services of Sheffield men in both the Crimean and Indian Mutiny campaigns. Does anyone have any information at all about the badge that was awarded to veterans or know if there is a list of thsoe so awarded. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayleaf Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Have you had a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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emo924 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Many thanks for the information provided - very much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yorklancs Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Have you seen one of these before? I bought it because I thought it might have something to do with the Crimean & Indian Mutiny Veterans but I need help please to confirm. The QV image is around about the time the association was active (late Victorian/old queen head 1893-1901). I have included an image of the reverse. It looks like a more recent production but why have other than a reigning monarch image? There is nothing else on the back except the manufacturers name. Any help gratefully received Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 The manufacturer seems to have been based in Birmingham until 1905 when a London office was opened, so may help date the badge. (from information on auction house website here: https://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archive/special-collections/foreword.php?specialcollection_id=104 and from this website: http://sculpture.gla.ac.uk/view/organization.php?id=msib1_1240323821 Located at 5 Denmark Street, London 1900 - 1951 This was the address of Edward Thurkle, Swordmakers, which Gaunt took over in 1897. According to company records the premises were given up in 1904, however there are references to this address in the London trade directories between 1900-51 Showroom located at 53 Conduit Street London 1905 - 1918 and this site: http://www.angelfire.com/wa/dianaspage/BritishButtonBackmarks.html states that Gaunt used the London location on the rear of buttons from 1884-1889 so that confuses the issue again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yorklancs Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Many thanks Edmund This is really is really helpful. I was keen to note that Gaunt used the J R Gaunt London mark to 1899. That would fit nicely with what I had hoped for a badge with QV portrait. HAS anyone seen one of these badges before please??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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