Malin Bridge, does anyone know...?

[Bayleaf]

Where Stannington Road crosses the Loxley by the old mill, it's carried on 2 arches. But on old pictures it only appears to have one arch. Does anyone know when it was changed, and why?

And in the same vein, why does the bottom of Rivelin Valley Road have two stone arches then a blue girder section? Is it to do with the fact the blue bit bridges the old dam and was perhaps the responsibility of the works, not the Council?

[RichardB]

Where Stannington Road crosses the Loxley by the old mill, it's carried on 2 arches. But on old pictures it only appears to have one arch. Does anyone know when it was changed, and why?

And in the same vein, why does the bottom of Rivelin Valley Road have two stone arches then a blue girder section? Is it to do with the fact the blue bit bridges the old dam and was perhaps the responsibility of the works, not the Council?

Way too early for your query but I bet there were on or two structural changes late on March 11th 1864 !

[mick851]

Where Stannington Road crosses the Loxley by the old mill, it's carried on 2 arches. But on old pictures it only appears to have one arch. Does anyone know when it was changed, and why?

And in the same vein, why does the bottom of Rivelin Valley Road have two stone arches then a blue girder section? Is it to do with the fact the blue bit bridges the old dam and was perhaps the responsibility of the works, not the Council?

bayleaf,

the only bit of info ive got is the bridge was rebuilt and made wider, around the time when the corporation bus service to stannington started in 1936..............any help????

[RichardB]

bayleaf,

the only bit of info ive got is the bridge was rebuilt and made wider, around the time when the corporation bus service to stannington started in 1936..............any help????

A great input Mick, a bit of information is better than none, even if, like so many of my inputs it proves to be flawed, it may lead on to something else.

Not suggesting your information is flawed, Thank you for your input.

[madannie77]

bayleaf,

the only bit of info ive got is the bridge was rebuilt and made wider, around the time when the corporation bus service to stannington started in 1936..............any help????

According to Chas C Hall, a bus service from malin Bridge to Stannington had been operated for over ten years by Henry Thrale when Sheffield Corporation took over the route in 1932. Thrale's small 20 - 24 seat buses which were used for another year until being replaced. If the replacements were bigger, this might be when the bridge was renewed (strengthened/widened?)

And as a bonus for RichardB, Henry Thrale is stated to be the licensee of the Crown and Globe, Stannington. The photograph in the book, also on picture Sheffield is dated 1925. I assume Mr Thrale is the portly gentleman on the left, the others being the bus drivers.

[mike142sl]

I assume Mr Thrale is the portly gentleman on the left, the others being the bus drivers.

Could he be the first Fat Controller?

[Bayleaf]

bayleaf,

the only bit of info ive got is the bridge was rebuilt and made wider, around the time when the corporation bus service to stannington started in 1936..............any help????

Thanks Mick that's very useful. There was a vague suggestion is was to do with trams but they never went to Stannington did they?

[madannie77]

Thanks Mick that's very useful. There was a vague suggestion is was to do with trams but they never went to Stannington did they?

Indeed. Trams never went beyond the Malin Bridge terminus at the end of Holme Lane. This doesn't mean that extensions to Stannington weren't contemplated at some time. Many schemes were contemplated over the years, which never made it to parliamentary bills, let alone being authorised. One plan in the early part of last century involved trolleybuses running from Malin Bridge along Rivelin Valley Road, and in the twenties Ridgeway Road was built wide enough for a tramway to be laid on a reservation, which never happened.

[Bayleaf]

Indeed. Trams never went beyond the Malin Bridge terminus at the end of Holme Lane. This doesn't mean that extensions to Stannington weren't contemplated at some time. Many schemes were contemplated over the years, which never made it to parliamentary bills, let alone being authorised. One plan in the early part of last century involved trolleybuses running from Malin Bridge along Rivelin Valley Road, and in the twenties Ridgeway Road was built wide enough for a tramway to be laid on a reservation, which never happened.

I guess the Rivelin Valley Road plan was in support of the plan to develop the valley for housing. And I'd often wondered why Ridgeway Road was so wide!

[madannie77]

I guess the Rivelin Valley Road plan was in support of the plan to develop the valley for housing. And I'd often wondered why Ridgeway Road was so wide!

Came in handy seventy years later when they finally got around to building a tramway along Ridgeway Road

Which is of no use to the questions in hand!

Was the Rivelin Valley Road bridge built with the arches and girder, or is the girder section a repair?

[mick851]

Thanks Mick that's very useful. There was a vague suggestion is was to do with trams but they never went to Stannington did they?

bayleaf,

the other bit of info ive just come across about rivelin road bridge is the local water board who owned the land proposed to have the road built, and employed 127 unemployed men to build it.

mick

[Bayleaf]

bayleaf,

the other bit of info ive just come across about rivelin road bridge is the local water board who owned the land proposed to have the road built, and employed 127 unemployed men to build it.

mick

Thanks Mick. There's another thread on here somewhere where it says the Council built the road as a job creation scheme as you say, using money from a surplus held by the Water Board. When the powers that be found out they were ordered to pay the money back, but the road got built anyway. I think at the time the Water Board were part of the Council hence the access to their funds!

There must be some significance in the fact that the 2 arches over the river on Rivelin Valley Road are stone and much the same design as those on Stannington Road, but the bit that's built with a blue girder is over the old dam. Could the owners of the dam have been responsible for that bit and the Council for the 2 arches? Seems a funny way to do it if that's the case.

[mick851]

Thanks Mick. There's another thread on here somewhere where it says the Council built the road as a job creation scheme as you say, using money from a surplus held by the Water Board. When the powers that be found out they were ordered to pay the money back, but the road got built anyway. I think at the time the Water Board were part of the Council hence the access to their funds!

There must be some significance in the fact that the 2 arches over the river on Rivelin Valley Road are stone and much the same design as those on Stannington Road, but the bit that's built with a blue girder is over the old dam. Could the owners of the dam have been responsible for that bit and the Council for the 2 arches? Seems a funny way to do it if that's the case.

or could it be it was easier and cheaper to span that section with girders and not disrupt the dam ( blocking it or rubble falling into it ) ??? :huh:

[DaveH]

... and in the twenties Ridgeway Road was built wide enough for a tramway to be laid on a reservation, which never happened.

But that didn't stop them building a tramway down the middle of it 70 years later in the 1990's did it

Now thats what I call forward planning lol

[mick851]

Thanks Mick that's very useful. There was a vague suggestion is was to do with trams but they never went to Stannington did they?

Bayleaf,

ive just come across another bit about malin bridge, when they were building the new wider bridge, they built a temporary wooden bridge, which ran from new road ( rivelin ) to stannington road. apparently you can still see the entrances to the wooden bridge on both roads.

mick

[Bayleaf]

Bayleaf,

ive just come across another bit about malin bridge, when they were building the new wider bridge, they built a temporary wooden bridge, which ran from new road ( rivelin ) to stannington road. apparently you can still see the entrances to the wooden bridge on both roads.

mick

Thanks Mick that's fascinating. I'll have a look next time I'm down there!