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Hello everybody!

My name is Edgar, I'm from Voronezsh, Russia.

I'm interested in the ancient things, for example carpenter tools. I have an interesting one, plane.

There is a inscription on it's part: "Z4 IK KENYON SHEFFIELD AH". Nothing else.

Maybe anyone knows any information about it?

Will be thankfull for any requests!

I haven't any your coin, so I put usual mobile phone for understandig plane's size.

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Hello everybody!

My name is Edgar, I'm from Voronezsh, Russia.

I'm interested in the ancient things, for example carpenter tools. I have an interesting one, plane.

There is a inscription on it's part: "Z4 IK KENYON SHEFFIELD AH". Nothing else.

Maybe anyone knows any information about it?

Will be thankfull for any requests!

Hi Edgar

Welcome to the site.

Do you have a photo of this plane and also of the inscription.

You can either post the photo in a reply post or email it to sheffieldhistory@gmail.com

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Hi Edgar

Welcome to the site.

Do you have a photo of this plane and also of the inscription.

You can either post the photo in a reply post or email it to sheffieldhistory@gmail.com

Hello, Stuart, here are them now in a first post.

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Hello everybody!

My name is Edgar, I'm from Voronezsh, Russia.

I'm interested in the ancient things, for example carpenter tools. I have an interesting one, plane.

There is a inscription on it's part: "Z4 IK KENYON SHEFFIELD AH". Nothing else.

Maybe anyone knows any information about it?

Will be thankfull for any requests!

I haven't any your coin, so I put usual mobile phone for understandig plane's size.

Hello Edgar and welcome to Sheffield History.

Some information for you here.

John Kenyon & Co. file manufacturer,

address - Hollis Croft, Sheffield.

Found in Pigot's directory, year 1828-1829.

John Kenyon & Co. steel & edge tool manufacturers,

address - Millsands, Sheff:

Kelly's directory, 1881.

John Kenyon & Co.

merchants & manufacturers of; steel, files, saws & edge tools.

address, Millsands Steel Works, Millsands, Sheff:

Trade Mark ..

Whites's directory, 1901.

& Kelly's directory, 1925

Edited by SteveHB
1925 added

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Link to an undated photograph .. picturesheffield.com

showing;

Rear of John Kenyon and Co., Millsands and River Don looking towards Sheffield Forge and Rolling Mills Ltd., Millsands Works with Exchange Brewery (extreme left)

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1871

Trade Directory entry

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's worth noting that the plane (wooden body) was probably not made by Kenyons.

Kenyons would just be the blade manufacturers. ??

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"Records of John Kenyon and Co., manufacturers of saws etc., formerly of Millsands, Sheffield. The 1828 directory lists John Kenyon and Co. twice, firstly as saw manufacturers of Willey Street and secondly as merchants and manufacturers of saws, files, bar and sheet iron and steel of Hollis Croft. White's directory of 1833 makes it clear that these were two branches of the same firm. An advertisement in White's directory of 1876 describes the firm as founded in 1710 and as manufacturers of cast, sheer, bar, spring and sheet steel, saws, files, edge tools, machine knives etc. but by the 1920s the firm was making only saws, files and edge tools, the biggest trade by far being in saws.

These records were deposited by Mr Leonard Davison who joined the firm in 1924 to put in a new costing system and remained with it until 1930 when he was appointed receiver to wind up the business and who supplied the following notes on the firm. The firm had a large eastern European trade which at first was entirely with Russia through ARCOS, the Russian co-operative, but when ARCOS closed down, the trading was done via the Engineering and Mercantile Co. in London which built up business in Latvia, Estonia and Poland. The Engineering and Mercantile Co. was bought out by Cookson Produce and Chemical Co. and in 1930 with the onset of the depression, Cookson's decided to wind up John Kenyon and Co. Eventually everybody was paid in full and the factory which only a few years previously had been employing 200 people was closed. The business was transferred to Sanderson Brothers and Newbould and the name John Kenyon and Co. (Sheffield 1930) Ltd. survived as a subsidiary of Sanderson Kayser Ltd"

SHEFFIELD ARCHIVES

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SHEFFIELD, 22nd June, 1865.

P. L. SIMMONDS, Esq., London.

SIR, Referring to our application of 14th, for an

extension of the space granted to us previously in the

Oporto Crystal* Palace, we should be very glad to learn

by return that it has been successful, as we are venturing

to proceed with the preparation of our show cases, in the

hope that such may be the case.

We remain, Sir,

Yours very truly,

JOHN KENYON & Co.

-----------------------------

JuncGtti, 1865.

Sir Having had some little business in London, I

was deputed by Messrs. John Kenyon & Co., of Sheffield,

to call on you relative to the Portuguese Exhibition.

Messrs. John Kenyon & Co., my employers, have had

space allotted to

them to exhibit,

and I have the

getting up of

the affair.

The space allotted,

tons, 12

ft. long, we pro-

pose to fill with

a vertical case

12 ft. long, 7ft.

and 6 to 12 inches deep ; also a horizontal case, 12 ft. long, 3 ft.

wide, and 12 in. deep. Will these two cases stand together, something like this sketch, the vertical over the

horizontal case ?

Supposing each are separate from the other, will the

upright case stand against a wall I

K

---------------------------------

We want the vertical case to stand about 30 inches

above the floor, if separate from the other. Will the

Exhibition authorities provide proper and efficient support

for the case at that height from the floor, or shall we

have to do that ?

Will you please oblige by answers to the above queries, addressed to

Your obedient Servant,

J. WILDE,

Messrs. J. Kenyon & Co., Sheffield.

P. L. SIMMONDS, Esq.

Source

I've altered one or two of the most obvious mistakes made during the digitalisation.

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"James and Joseph Kenyon were apprenticed in Sheffield in the early eighteenth century. Joseph, founded the firm of John Kenyon & Co. Sawsmiths, formerly of Millsands, Sheffield. The 1828 directory lists John Kenyon and Co. as saw manufacturers of Willey Street and as merchants and manufacturers of saws, files, bar and sheet iron and steel of Hollis Croft."

Source

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THE LONDON GAZETTE, 19TH FEBRUARY 1980

JOHN KENYON & CO. (SHEFFIELD 1930) LIMITED

At an Extraordinary General Meeting of the above-named

Company, duly convened, and held at Attercliffe Steelworks,

Newhall Road, Sheffield on 23rd January 1980, the subjoined

Special Resolution was duly passed:

That the Company be wound up voluntarily and that Donald

James Mant, of 44 West Street, Dunstable, Beds, be and is

hereby appointed Liquidator for the purposes of such windingup.

(306) Norman Hanlon

Edited by SteveHB
Kenyon And Co. Posts split into Topic

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Thank you, guys!! I'm glad,I get more than even expected!

Большое спасибо!

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....The firm had a large eastern European trade which at first was entirely with Russia through ARCOS, the Russian co-operative...

 OK, here is explanation how did this plane appear in Russia. But I still don't know when was it produce..

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Большое спасибо!

Большое спасибо,

Pronounced, I think, "Dopimoeh saseedo"

Translates as "Many Thanks"

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Большое спасибо,

Pronounced, I think, "Dopimoeh saseedo"

Translates as "Many Thanks"

Haha))Noup))Pronounced "Bol'shoe spasibo"

yep, means Many thanks)

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Haha))Noup))Pronounced "Bol'shoe spasibo"

yep, means Many thanks)

Thanks for that 'Peace to you! =),

I never was any good at foreign languages at school, although like practically all British schools we never did Russian.

In the mid 1970's I did my degree in chemistry at Hull University, which being on the east coast had connections with universities in Germany and, what was then the USSR (quite suprising really given the politics of that time)

When I did my final year research project it was on a subject where all the main research had been carried out in Russia and all the research papers were in Russian.

It was not easy getting them translated as even the Department of Russian studies struggled to translate some of the more specialised scientific terms. I had a go at it myself, but having struggled at school with languages I didn't stand much of a chance. I couldn't really cope with that 31 letter cyrillic alphabet where some letters have no sound, and some mean something different in the western alphabet (I seem to remember, mainly from watching Russian cosmonauts on TV, that even "USSR" translated to "CCCP", and that our B was your V) because of this, pronouncing Russian words became a real challenge.

Having said that, you seem to have a good understanding of English.

Apart from the odd gramatical slip your English is очень хорошо.

...and it has allowed us to communicate information about your Kenyon tools

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John Kenyon merchant Holles Croft Gales & Martin 1787

John Kenyon saw maker Universal 1791

John Kenyon Merchant Hollis Street Holden's 1811

John Kenyon (& Co.) merchants, saw, file, bar & sheet iron & steel manufacturers Hollis Croft Baine's 1822

John Kenyon Merchants and saw file, bar and sheet iron and stell manufacturer Hollis Croft Gell's 1825

John Kenyon Saw manufacturers Willey Street, Wicker Gell's 1825

John Kenyon File Manufacturers (& Co.) Hollis Croft Pigot's 1828-9

John Kenyon (& Co.) Merchants, steel, converters & file Mfrs. & saw & edge tool mfrs. Hollis Croft & Willey Street White's 1837

John Kenyon (& Co.) merchants and manufacturers of steel, files, saws, edge tools 4 Sheldon Row Rodgers 1841

John Kenyon (& Co.) file manufacturers Willey Street Pigot's 1841

John Kenyon (& Co.) merchants, factors & manufacturers Willey Street Pigot's 1841

John Kenyon (& Co.) saw manufacturers Willey Street Pigot's 1841

John Kenyon (& Co.) steel converters & refiners Willey Street Pigot's 1841

John Kenyon File Manufacturers (& Co.) Willey Street Slaters 1846

John Kenyon Merchants, factors and manufacturers Willey Street Slaters 1846

John Kenyon Saw manufacturers Willey Street Slaters 1846

John Kenyon Steel converters and refiners Willey Street Slaters 1846

John Kenyon (& Co.) merchants & steel, file, saw, edgetool &c. manufacturers & rollers, 4 Sheldon Row & Middlewood Works White's 1849

John Kenyon (& Co.) merchants and steel, file, saw, edgetool &c. manufacturers and rolle 4 Sheldon Row and Middlewood Works White's 1852

John Kenyon (& Co.) Rollers, tilters and forgers Middlewood, Oughtibridge White's 1871

John Kenyon (& Co.) manufacturers & mechants Mill Sands White's 1871

John Kenyon (& Co.) Steel & Edge Tool manufacturers Millsands Steel Works, Millsands Kell'y 1881

John Kenyon (& Co.) manufacturers & mechants Mill Sands Kelly's 1893

John Kenyon (& Co. (Sheffield) Ltd.) merchants & manufacturers of steel, files, saws, edge tools Millsands Steel Works, Millsands White's 1901

John Kenyon (& Co.) Merchants & manufacturers of steel, files, saws, edge tools & c. Mill Sands Steel Works, Mill Sands White's 1905

John Kenyon (& Co. (Sheffield) Ltd.) merchants & manufacturers of steel, files, saw, edge tools Millsands Steel Works, Millsands White's 1919

John Kenyon (& Co. (Sheffield) Ltd.) merchants & manufacturers of steel, files, saws, edge tools Millsands Steel Works, Millsands Kelly's 1925

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Thanks for that 'Peace to you! =),

When I did my final year research project it was on a subject where all the main research had been carried out in Russia and all the research papers were in Russian.

Hello again! Sorry for a longtime reply

I can imagine how difficult it was for you, nevertheless, you did it! =)

Little correction, 33 letter in alphabet.

Thanks for that, we study english in schools and universities, but we haven't practice. I forget all I new.

Unfortunately I haven't any another Keynon tools, except I've showed one.

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Another interesting thing I have is fascist saw. I don't speak german, can't look on their forums. Sorry for off top.

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Only thing so far is this.

Ewald Schmahl, Wuppertal-Cronenberg - Cup with a star on.

(I presume that will be his Trade Mark.)

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More luck with the sheath

It was made by Bottcher & Renner of Nurnberg.

Amongst other things they also made holsters for the Luger and Walther pistols.

Walther pistol holster

Bottcher & Renner Nurnberg

1937

=============================

German armed forces, brown leather belt marked: " BÖTTCHER & RENNER, NUREMBERG - O. 1936"

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Oh, great! Thank you)

Google maps showed me a little commune "Cronenberg" in a middle of a German, near the Nurnberg. It's population in 2006 was 164))

By the way, only on my photo I saw date on a sheath, 1937. In reality it's hidden from a view!))

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Little correction, 33 letter in alphabet.

I seem to remember that Russian has a few letters in its alphabet which have no sound of their own and work as "accents" on the following letters.

Would this account for me counting them up wrong?

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Yea, you are fully right, nevertheless  they are letters also)

They are " Ь" -"soft sign" and " Ъ " - "hard(solid) sign"

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Yea, you are fully right, nevertheless  they are letters also)

They are " Ь" -"soft sign" and " Ъ " - "hard(solid) sign"

33 letters it is then, including the 2 accent letters which cannot be pronounced.

I was going to add to the previous post -

"I think the missing letters look a bit like the flat sign used in written music to flatten a note"

Looks like I was closer than I thought

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