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Hi ,

I'm in the process of tracing my wife's family and have found that her great grandfather was Patrick Mooney. After being released from Wakefield Prison (described as 'inmate' in 1891 Census) he was shown to be living with his sister-in-law (Marry Ann Mooney - widow) at 23 Corporation Street, Sheffield in the 1911 Census. This was described as a 'Public House' and stated that she was the 'Publican' - does anyone know the name of the pub?

Thanks in anticipation.

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Hi ,

I'm in the process of tracing my wife's family and have found that her great grandfather was Patrick Mooney. After being released from Wakefield Prison (described as 'inmate' in 1891 Census) he was shown to be living with his sister-in-law (Marry Ann Mooney - widow) at 23 Corporation Street, Sheffield in the 1911 Census. This was described as a 'Public House' and stated that she was the 'Publican' - does anyone know the name of the pub?

Thanks in anticipation.

Hi and welcome AndyS.

The Pub with no name?

Corporation Street.

Steelhouse lane

17 Women's Hostel.

23 Corporation Street Ellis, Son & Paramore, surgical instrument makers.

Spring street

White, Walker & Co, timber mers.

Water street

37 George W Johnson. victualler.

39 Bower William Ivany, foreman

Fidler James Ltd. contractors.

from Kelly's dir: 1925

Corporation Street.

Steelhouse lane

17 William Smith, (Beerhouse).

19 Benjamin Moor, shopkeeper.

21 Solonon Brody, cabinet maker.

23 Corporation Street, Mrs. Mary Ann Mooney (Beerhouse).

Spring Street

White, Walker & Co timber mers.

Water street

37 John Henry, victualler

Edward Cave, timber merchant.

from White's dir: 1901

Link to picturesheffield 23,Corporation Street,

on the L/H side looking up Spring Street,

looks like it could have been a PH at one time.

Link to 1950's OS map #03

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All taken from our A-Z of Public Houses,

not a lot of help I'm afraid,

better wait for the experts to log on.

:)

New Bridge

Corporation Street

Open 1901

Closed Span

Comments

Earlier 1901 Mrs Caroline E Hutchinson

Industry Inn /"T'Swarf Oil"

Corporation Street

Open Closed Span

Comments

Earlier

Carlton

17 Corporation Street

Open 1871 Closed Span

Comments

Earlier

1871 Edwin Grayson (Beerhouse)

1881 Charles Norton

Corporation Hotel

37 Corporation Street, S3

Open 1871 Closed Span

Comments

Earlier

1871 James Firth

1881 James Firth

1901 John H Freeman

1905 William Wilkinson

1911 William Johnson

1925 George W Johnson

1948 Harry Billingham

1951 Chas. Larder Brown

Golden Ball

Spring Street

Open 1774

1774 Paris Justice

Blue Pig/Blue Boar (before ~1833)/Oxford (after ~1884)

6/22 Workhouse Lane & 41/43 Spring Street

Open 1822 Closed Span

Comments

Earlier

1871 (White's) Edward Parkin, victualler, Blue Pig (22 Workhouse Lane)

1879 (White's) Thomas Saynor, victualler, Blue Pig (41 Spring Street & 22

Workhouse Lane)

1905 (White's) Henry Bingham, victualler, Oxford (22 Workhouse Lane)

1911 (Census) Henry Bingham, Licensed Victualler (22 Workhouse Lane)

1911 (White's) Henry Bingham, victualler, Oxford (22 Workhouse Lane)

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Thanks SteveHB,

Yes the photo from the 50's does appear to show a building sporting a pub frontage and the description of 25 Corporation Street (Mrs Mary Ann Mooney) as being a 'Beerhouse' tends to make the point.

I'm not sure if I'm right but I remember my grandparents referring to some pubs as being 'Three Ale Bars' which I think meant that they only had a licence to sell beers or porter and not spirits - I was wondering if the term 'Beerhouse' meant the same or if it had some different connotation?

I may have to visit the Sheffield Archives and look through their magistrates records to see if there was a licence granted to Mary and if so this may hopefully provide the pub's name.

Thanks once again for your valuable info.

AndyS

Hi and welcome AndyS.

The Pub with no name?

Corporation Street.

Steelhouse lane

17 Women's Hostel.

23 Corporation Street Ellis, Son & Paramore, surgical instrument makers.

Spring street

White, Walker & Co, timber mers.

Water street

37 George W Johnson. victualler.

39 Bower William Ivany, foreman

Fidler James Ltd. contractors.

from Kelly's dir: 1925

Corporation Street.

Steelhouse lane

17 William Smith, (Beerhouse).

19 Benjamin Moor, shopkeeper.

21 Solonon Brody, cabinet maker.

23 Corporation Street, Mrs. Mary Ann Mooney (Beerhouse).

Spring Street

White, Walker & Co timber mers.

Water street

37 John Henry, victualler

Edward Cave, timber merchant.

from White's dir: 1901

Link to picturesheffield 23,Corporation Street,

on the L/H side looking up Spring Street,

looks like it could have been a PH at one time.

Link to 1950's OS map #03

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Beerhouse, 1911, Mrs Mary Ann Mooney, 23 Corporation Street (White's Directory of 1911).

George Stamp, Beer retailer, 23 Corporation Street (Kelly's 1893)

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The 'not very accurate'

'A Pub on Every Corner' by Wilf Banks - Maps,

shows the corner of Spring St & Corporation St as number 77, the London Prentice PH.

081_e.pdf

Link to 'A Pub on Every Corner' by Wilf Banks Maps from original publication.

Data not to be relied on as we have found faults regarding Street numbers/positions before.

For the year of publication it's magnificent - same with Lamb's book, the phrase "I don't know anything about the following Pubs ..." inspired me muchly, Francis Burdett, McCready can't remember the other two - but we know about them now.

Should we redo Bank's maps and make them more accurate with our current data ? Obviously beyond my abilities, but, I'm enthused again.

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For the year of publication it's magnificent - same with Lamb's book, the phrase "I don't know anything about the following Pubs ..." inspired me muchly, Francis Burdett, McCready can't remember the other two - but we know about them now.

Should we redo Bank's maps and make them more accurate with our current data ? Obviously beyond my abilities, but, I'm enthused again.

Sorry Richard,

I should have used the phrase 'not accurate' 'but most useful'

Could have a go at a map update, map number one due for release at Christmas lol

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Sorry Richard,

I should have used the phrase 'not accurate' 'but most useful'

Could have a go at a map update, map number one due for release at Christmas lol

One map a month, could have it sorted by ... whenever, need a link to the names of course

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Hi SteveHB & RichardB,

I've just been to the Sheffield Archives office in order to view the magistrates records for 'Beerhouse' at 23 Corporation Street. It shows it as 'Corporation Stores' and that the beer supplier is 'John Smith's - Tadcaster' . The licence was 'confiscated' for some unstated reason on the 13th Dec 1913.

Rgds,

AndyS

One map a month, could have it sorted by ... whenever, need a link to the names of course

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Hi SteveHB & RichardB,

I've just been to the Sheffield Archives office in order to view the magistrates records for 'Beerhouse' at 23 Corporation Street. It shows it as 'Corporation Stores' and that the beer supplier is 'John Smith's - Tadcaster' . The licence was 'confiscated' for some unstated reason on the 13th Dec 1913.

Rgds,

AndyS

Well researched updates always gratefully received, great work.

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