s6lad Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Would anyone know if it would be possible to buy a replica of the Master Cutler name plate? I think this would look great on my kitchen wall (not told the missus yet). I've Googled my enquiry but not had much luck. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks S6lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Would anyone know if it would be possible to buy a replica of the Master Cutler name plate? I think this would look great on my kitchen wall (not told the missus yet). I've Googled my enquiry but not had much luck. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks S6lad Try this site http://www.newtonreplicas.com/ then click on the Headboards link. Not cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Try this site http://www.newtonreplicas.com/ then click on the Headboards link. Not cheap Headboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Try this site http://www.newtonreplicas.com/ then click on the Headboards link. Not cheap Not mentioned on this linked site but many steam traction engines which have been restored have had to have new nameplates made, mainly because, being made of brass and quite collectable they get nicked. There are specialist tradesmen, like those in Stuarts link who will undertake this type of work. They are expensive not just because of the metal (brass) and the current high price of copper and zinc used to make this alloy but also because the patternmaking to take the casting is skilled, time consuming and expensive. Once the pattern has been made it can be used repeatedly to make thousands of identical castings, - but of course you only want one so the pattern is part of a one off job keeping the cost high. Now if you put in for a job lot of several hundred castings (or several thousand) then the unit price for each one soon comes down. At our steam rallies all the exhibitors are usually presented with a small brass plaque. We had to have these specially made and kept the price down by having a run of about 600 to cover all our exhibitors and using the same pattern with our logo on every year so that once the pattern was made it was used for many years to reduce the cost. However as the plaques had the rally date on (year only) the patternmaker charged a smaller annual fee to alter the pattern to the current year. I am sure he charged us double for this in the year 2000 as he had to alter all 4 digits and not just the last 2 which does of course require double the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s6lad Posted December 5, 2009 Author Share Posted December 5, 2009 Many thanks for the information. That would look great on the kitchen wall. Just need to find a spare 300 quid :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Many thanks for the information. That would look great on the kitchen wall. Just need to find a spare 300 quid :-) and permission from err in doors lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Not mentioned on this linked site but many steam traction engines which have been restored have had to have new nameplates made, mainly because, being made of brass and quite collectable they get nicked. There are specialist tradesmen, like those in Stuarts link who will undertake this type of work. They are expensive not just because of the metal (brass) and the current high price of copper and zinc used to make this alloy but also because the patternmaking to take the casting is skilled, time consuming and expensive. Once the pattern has been made it can be used repeatedly to make thousands of identical castings, - but of course you only want one so the pattern is part of a one off job keeping the cost high. Now if you put in for a job lot of several hundred castings (or several thousand) then the unit price for each one soon comes down. At our steam rallies all the exhibitors are usually presented with a small brass plaque. We had to have these specially made and kept the price down by having a run of about 600 to cover all our exhibitors and using the same pattern with our logo on every year so that once the pattern was made it was used for many years to reduce the cost. However as the plaques had the rally date on (year only) the patternmaker charged a smaller annual fee to alter the pattern to the current year. I am sure he charged us double for this in the year 2000 as he had to alter all 4 digits and not just the last 2 which does of course require double the work. Brass Sheffield Steam rally plaques for 1993 to 2001. During this period we used the rectangular brass plaque My set includes the special 25th anniversary, 25th rally 1997 rally plaque (that will have cost us extra) Note that the 1999 and 2000 plaques are not castings but are printed thin brass sheets (brass cards) and looked better because of the higher finish on the brass as it has not been cast. The cards are much thinner, lighter and cheaper to produce as well as looking better. They were not popular with exhibitors who wanted a "proper brass plaque". So, in 2001 we returned to the original design, having put off that extra pattern changing charge for an extra year or so. Please note, - my scanner is not designed to scan contoured reflective brass castings so some of these images do not look as good as they could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Brass Sheffield Steam rally plaques for 1993 to 2001. During this period we used the rectangular brass plaque My set includes the special 25th anniversary, 25th rally 1997 rally plaque (that will have cost us extra) Note that the 1999 and 2000 plaques are not castings but are printed thin brass sheets (brass cards) and looked better because of the higher finish on the brass as it has not been cast. The cards are much thinner, lighter and cheaper to produce as well as looking better. They were not popular with exhibitors who wanted a "proper brass plaque". So, in 2001 we returned to the original design, having put off that extra pattern changing charge for an extra year or so. Please note, - my scanner is not designed to scan contoured reflective brass castings so some of these images do not look as good as they could. Brass Sheffield Steam rally plaques for 2002 to 2006 In 2002 the design was changed to the shield design instead of the rectangle with the top flange for mounting on a leather strap in the equestrian style of "brass and leather". This would have involved the expense of a whole new pattern having to be made for the casting. There was no Sheffield Steam Rally in June 2007 due to the site being flooded. I resigned my position on the committee of the steam society in 2008 having served since 1993 so I do not have the most recent plaques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Finally, If you are thinking of having a brass plaque or nameplate made there are specialist dealers which will (at a price) undertake such work. Here is the rear of one of my brass plaques with the dealers details on and also a "sample" plaque of another dealers work with his contact details on. A large nameplate like THE MASTER CUTLER would be much more expensive and not the sort of thing they turn out everyday but they may be prepared to give you a quote and undertake the work of making it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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