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A true "labour of love", a magnificent effort Ukelele Lady.

The list, with your effort, has become a great resource not only for old-soaks like me but for people looking for family members and for those with an interest in the old boozers of Sheffield in years gone by.

On behalf of everyone - a big Thank you.

Get your cards done and take a break ... who knows what's next !?!

And that's that.

If I've made any blunders I'm sure you'll let me know. then I can correct them.

There are one or two names that are a bit unreadable which I will check on at the library tomorrow

with any other unsures.

I think I'll start making my Christmas cards now. lol

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A true "labour of love", a magnificent effort Ukelele Lady.

The list, with your effort, has become a great resource not only for old-soaks like me but for people looking for family members and for those with an interest in the old boozers of Sheffield in years gone by.

On behalf of everyone - a big Thank you.

Get your cards done and take a break ... who knows what's next !?!

I've just had a rough count of the number of dates I've posted, obviously not the keepers because some stayed for

quite a few years Over 22,000 entries . . . then I lost count. :blink:

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I'm waiing until tomorrow to make sure you've stopped ! I cannot believe we're still at this after five years or thereabouts.

I've just had a rough count of the number of dates I've posted, obviously not the keepers because some stayed for

quite a few years Over 22,000 entries . . . then I lost count. :blink:

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I'm waiing until tomorrow to make sure you've stopped ! I cannot believe we're still at this after five years or thereabouts.

Well I don't suppose it will ever finish. There's oddments that we will still add here and there .

Some need adding and some need taking away [ duplicates ] but that can all be done in the next five years. ;-) :)

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<p class="bbc_indent" style="margin-left: 80px;">Subject to your approval Ukelele Lady, I suggest we close this thread, as successful as it has been. Then I can make best effort to update &quot;my stuff&quot;/and further quality check the A-Z against my lists.</p>

<p class="bbc_indent" style="margin-left: 80px;"> </p>

<p class="bbc_indent" style="margin-left: 80px;">We can always start &quot;Son of Pub Updates&quot; for what I agree will be years more &quot;stuff&quot;.</p>

<p class="bbc_indent" style="margin-left: 80px;"> </p>

<p class="bbc_indent" style="margin-left: 80px;">I'm all for further updates to the A-Z (as and when needed)</p>

<p class="bbc_indent" style="margin-left: 80px;"> </p>

<p class="bbc_indent" style="margin-left: 80px;">I, personally need to draw a line under this thread so I can do what I need to do to catch up. I'd like to say it was 3-4 days or even months, but, it isn't - as we know.</p>

<p class="bbc_indent" style="margin-left: 80px;"> </p>

<p class="bbc_indent" style="margin-left: 80px;">Awaiting your reply.</p>

<p class="bbc_indent" style="margin-left: 80px;"> </p>

<p class="bbc_indent" style="margin-left: 80px;">An awesome contribtion, in the old meaning of awesome - brilliant, breathtaking, superb, impressive, comprehensive and well-researched - the well-researched is the most complimentary from someone who knows - nothing at all to do with OMG and other such nonsense.</p>

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<p class="bbc_indent" style="margin-left: 80px; text-align: center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><span style="font-size: 18px;">Three Cheers for Lady Ukelele Lady - from one and all.</span></span></p>

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These are a few which I've been to check out at the local studies that I had a ? for part of the name.

1900 Old Crown, Owlerton =William Mason

1949-52 The George 50 Boston Street, = Henry Cutts

1889 George & Dragon. Mosborough .= Gamaliel Robinson

1902-3 Old London Apprentice, West Bar = Fred Brock

I must put this one in too because after it was no longer a beerhouse, the old dear who lived there

always let me pick off her tree at Christmas. Although I was too young to remember my brother says there were still

the beer pumps in the " living room "

The Montgomery Hotel . 14-16 Montgomery Terrace Road

1884 , 89, 93, Mrs Harriet Hawthorn

1895, 96, 98, George Briggs

1903, 10, 12, 13, 16, 19, 20, Walter Wostenholm

I promise you that's it until Richard catches up. It will keep him busy over Christmas he he

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The Upperthorpe Road beerhouse/pub seems to have changed over the years from number 137

to 159. eg:

1884 . 137 Upperthorpe Road. George Addy. grocer

1889. 137 Upperthorpe Road George Addy. grocer & victualler

1893. 137 Upperthorpe Road. George Wilby. Upperthorpe Hotel.

1895 . 157 Upperthorpe Road , George Wilby

1913. 159 Upperthorpe Road. Walter Colton victualler

1933 159 Upperthorpe Road. Stewart Finegan . Upperthorpe Hotel.

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Just noticed this anomaly

From HERE we have:

8th May 1890
Huber (engineer) versus Cattanagh, landlord of the Maunche Hotel, Action for assault and ejectment. Damages £10.

And also, Commercial Gazette July 1890 says:

Cattanagh W. Ross, Maunche Hotel, Sheffield

Whereas on the Keepers List we have:

Maunche
14 Corn Exchange Buildings

1889 Henry Woods [ manager ]
1890 - 91 Edward Twivey
1893 Edward Twivey

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Hi Vox

I have on the Kelly's 1890 Edward TURVEY but on the Whites 1891 it is Edward Twivey.

I can only post what I find in the directories.

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Of course UkeLass.

Now we have 3 options though, Turvey, Twivey and Cattanagh.

Should we include all three names, showing the anomalies, and giving the references ?

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I believe the Turvey is one of the same [ Twivey] as mostly it is spelt Twivey.

I think we should include the name Cattanagh as well, as it's there in the history news so he must belong

somewhere in there.

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UkeLass

Pigots The Commercial Directory for 1818-19-20 has: The Green Dragon, Fargate, Richard Thirskell.

This is earlier than our first entry, which is 1822.

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The Commercial Directory for 1818-19-20
Pigots - Published1818

Taverns and Public Houses.

Angel, Leonard Cowley, South-st.
Angel, Jonathan Schorah, Westbar-green
Ancient Pine Apple, Thomas Wilkinson,Radford-st.
Anvil, James Goodwin, Sheffield-moor

Ball, Joseph Jowett, Bridge-bouses
Ball, Richard Brannand, Bridge-house*
Ball, William Senior, Broad-lane
Ball, William Warburton, Spring-st.
Ball, Samuel Robins, Jehu-lane
Ball, George Blisset, Grindlegate
Ball, George Chapman, Scotland-st.
Ball, Paul Bibbs, Furniss-hill
Ball, John Bower, Norfolk-st.
Ball, Joseph Bray, Green-lane
Ball, John Woollen, Westbar-green
Ball, Jonathan Beardshaw, Hawley-croft
Ball, John Wright, Sanspavonrs
Ball, Hannah Marshall, Campo-lane
Ball, Antepast Stevens, Campo-lane
Ball, Mar; Petty, Pond-st.
Ball, John Wild, Howard-st.
Ball, John Eyre, Duke-st. Park
Ball, William Squires, Pea-croft
Barrel, Luke Ellis, Pinstone-lane
Barrel, Elizabeth Ashton, Broad-lane
Barrel, Sarah Pinder, Pond-lane
Barrel, John Pearson, Pond-street
Barrel, John Prince, Duke-st. Park
Barrel, John Marshall, Charles-st.
Barrel, Thomas Farmer, Little Sheffield
Barrel, Widow Marsh, Edward-st.
Barrel, Jonathan Hadfield, Hawley-croft
Barley Mow, Jos. Goodlad, Westbar-green
Bay Childers, Joseph Hepworth, High-st.
Bird in hand, William West, Church-st.
Black Horse, Jonathan Gray, Scotland-st.
Black Horse, Ann Meltborp, Howard-st.
Black Jug,John Freeborough,Bridge-houses
Black Swan, William Carter, Burgesa
Black Swan, John Cricb, Snig-hill
Black Swan, Luke Stamford, Pond-lane
Black Swan, Robert Platts, Fargate
Black Rock, William Bramley, Castle-st.
Bine Bell, John Thorp, Jehu-lane
Blue Bell, William Denton, High-st.
Blue Boar, Robert Holland, Westbar
Blue Boy, Joseph Stringer, Shudehill
Bine Pig, Thomas Webster, Spring-st.
Boot and Shoe, Esther Gould, Pinstone-lane
Bridge Inn, James Binns, Bridge-houses
Brittania, Samuel Yates, Trippet-lane
Brown Bear, Michael Crooks, Norfolk-st.
Brown Cow, George Fearn, Radford-st.
Brown Cow, John Haigh, Bridge-houses
Bull's Head, Thomas Turton, Duke-st.
Bull and Oak, Joseph Woolhouse, Wicker

Canal Tavern, Thomas Patterson, South-st. Broad-st. Park
Cannon, Joseph Jackson, Scotland-st.
Castle, Martha Thackery, Snig-hill
Checkers, Francis Lilley, Hartshead
Checkers, Thomas Alsop, Coalpit-lane
Checkers, Sarah Flather, Meadow-st.
Coach & Horses, W. Swallow, Water-lane
Cock, Mary Cutt, Broad-st. Park
Cock, Thomas Ibbotson, Paradise-square
Cock, Samuel Henderson, 14 Hollis-croft
Coek, Joseph Harrop, Snow-hill
Cossack, Joseph Johnson, Howard-st.
Cricket Player, Mary Hague, Coalpit-lane
Cross Daggers, E. Saunderson, Market-pl.
Cross Daggers, Saml. Shirt, Westbar-green
Cross Keys, Mary Brailsford, Shudehill
Crown, William Hutchinson, Pinstone-lane
Crown, Joseph Bennison, Little Sheffield
Crown, Elisabeth Evans, Old-st. Park
Crown, Mary Law ion, Duke-st. Park
Cutler's Arms, Joseph Green, Cheney-sq.
Cutler's Inn, Anthony Scbofield, Fargate

Dog & Partridge, T. Bramley, Trippet-lane
Dog & Partridge, E. Middleton, Coalpit-la.
Dove and Rainbow, B. Turton, Hartshead
Duke Wellington, W. Cockla, Coalpit-lane

Elephant, Wm. Fisher, bottom Norfolk-st.

Feathers, John Mason, High-st. Park
Fig Tree, Thomas Hardwick, Figtree-lane
Fleur-de-lis, George Slack, Angel-st.
Fountain, John Richards, Townhead-st.
Fox & Duck, John Woodcock, Bridge-hill
Fox and Duck, J. Shirtcliffe, Broad-lane

Gate, Benjamin Hartley, Hollis-croft
George & Dragon, J. Greaves, Westbar-gr.
George & Dragon, W. Cooper, Bank-st.
Globe, Francis llully, Porter-st.
Granby Head, Zachariah Bowjing, Harts-head
Golden Ball, Sarah Morton, Carver-st. -
Golden Ball, George Saville, Bnrgess-st.
Grapes, Enoch Beale, Trippet-lane
Grapes, Josiah Finney,'Church-st. .
Green Dragon, Richard Thirskell, Fargate
Grey Horse, James Clark, High-st
Greyhound, William Husband, Gibraltar-st

Hague Tree, Joseph Wilson, Shudehill
Hawk, John Saynor, Pea-croft Wfe
Hammer and Anvil, Jas. Simpson, Snig-hill
Hare and Hounds, Martha Davy, Wicker
Harrow, John Bennett, Broad-st. Park
Hen and Chickens, J. Kinder, Castle-green
Hope & Anchor, Benj. B«et, Bridge-houses
Horse & Carter, T. Crownshaw, Water-la.
Horse & Groom, W. Holmeshaw, Water-la.
Horse and Jockey, Wm. Hepple, Barns-st.
Horse & Jockey, T. Shippam, Tenter-st.
Hussar, S. Cornthwaite, Scotland-st. ..

King's Arms, Joseph Scholfield, Fargate
King's Head, Saml. Pearson, Neepsend
King & Miller, George Mosley, Norfolk-st.

Lamb and Flagg, J. Little wood, Bnrgess-st
Lancashire House, William Nightingale,Church-st.
London Apprentice, Joseph Townsend, Westbar-green
London Apprentice, J. Beadle, Spring-st.

Mermaid, Joseph Hinchcliffe, Orchard-st.
Mermaid, Matthew Carnell, Bailey-lane
Murrey's Arms, John Morton, Queen-st.
Mitre, John Poole, Orchard-street
Nag's-head, Thos. Bleake, Nag's-head-yd.
Nelson, John Taylor, Westbar-green
Norfolk-arms, Robert Smith, Shudehill
Nursery Inn, Samuel Blackwell, Nursery .
Old Armitage, Wm. Farmer, Little Sheffield
Old Bay Horse, S. Crawshaw, Westbar-gr.
Old Black Bull, James Wilson, Hollis-croft
Old Coach & Horses, J. Tnrner, Hay market
Old Coach and Horses, Francis Chambers,Water-lane
Old Cherry-tree, J. Sykes, Gibraltar-st.
Old Crow, Thomas Wing, Scotland-st.
Old Green Man, T. Nicholson, Cheney-sq.
Old Harrow, Joseph Machin, Harvest-lane
Old Green Man, J. Ellis, Broad-st. Park
Old Nag's-head, G. Greaves, Paradise-sq.
Old Ring of Bells, W. White, Pea-croft
Old Tontine, Richard Childs, Scotland-st.
Old Turk's-head, E. Priest, Scotland-st
Old White Lion, William England, Wicker
Orange-branch, Joseph Allen, Hollis-croft
Oxford Blue, Saml. Lindley, Burgess-st.

Packhorse, William Law, Westbar
Parrot, Wm. Flint, Sheffield-moor
Pheasant, John Smith, Park
Prince of Wales, J. Cadman, Sycamore-st.
Punch-bowl, John Yielding, Sonth-st.

Queen's-head,J.Taylor,Crook'8-croft,Park
Queen's-head, W. Travis, Castle-st.
Queens-head, Wm. Wilson, Campo-Iane

Red Lion, Stephen Gray, Hartsbead
Red Lion, Samuel Allen, Charles-st.
Red Lion, John Beck, Duke-st. Park
Red Lion, Ralph Dodsworth, Smithfield
Rising Sun, Ebenezer Jubb, Sheffield-moor
Robin Hood, John Goulder, Duke-st. Park
Rose and Crown, R. Brown, Brown-st.
Rose and Crown, William Slack, Waingate
Rose and Crown, Wm. Fearnley, Silter-st.
Royal Oak, William Taylor, King-st.
Royal Oak, Benjamin Armitage, Pond-st.
Salutation, Mary Bramley, Silver-st. head
Seedling, Francis Newton, Bailey-field
Shades, Samuel Turner, Hartshead
Shakespear, Samuel Scott, Gibraltar-st.
Shakespear and Crown, William Hawkes,Sycamore-st.
Sir Francis Burdett, S. Beeley, Pond-st.
Sir John Falstaff, Wm. Willey, Wicker
Spread Eagle, Jacob Cook, High-st.
Sportsman, William Norman, Westbar
Stag, William Tarlington, Lambert-st.
Stag, George Marples, Carver-st.
Star, Thomas Hawksworth, Pea-craft
Star, John Thorp, White-croft
Star, Samuel Waterfall, Gibraltar-st.
Stationer's Arms, P. Dawes, Coalpit-lane
Swan, Robert Lomas, Cheney-square
Swan, Benjamin Carrington, Furnival-st.

Tankard, Thos. Crooks, Pond-lane
Tankard, C. Haslehurst, Broad-st. Park
Tiger, Thomas Matthewman, Retford-row
Three Cranes, John Smith, Bank-st. -
Three Stags, Thos. Outram, Pinstone-Iane
Three Tuns, Francis Bagshaw, Bridge-st.
Three White-smiths, W. Darling, Bridge-st
Twelve o'clock, J. Ellis, Walk-mill, Pickle

Union, Joseph Taylor, Fnrniss-hill
Union, Saml. Golding, Cross Burgess-st.
Union, John Harrott, Bridge-houses

Waggon & Horses, J Appleyard, Arundel-st
Waterloo, Joseph Ashby, Watson's-walk
Wellington, Ralph Wilkinson, Shales-moor
Well run Dimple, J. Allison, Barkers-pool
White Bear, Charles Grimes, High-st.,
White Horse, Thomas Holt, Solly-st.
White Horse, John Keighley, 43 Copper-st
White Swan, John Marsden, Silver-st.
White Swan, Simon Wilson, Silver-st.
White Swan, Joshua Gregory, Westbar
Woodman, Joseph Marshall, South st.
Wortley's-arms, G. Rogers, Barker's-pool

Yellow Ball, Thomas Felsten, Wicker
Yellow Lion, John Shaw, Coalpit-lane
Yellow Lion, Wm. Wright, Haymarket

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If, and only if, it was published in 1818 then I would go with 1818.

The Commercial Directory for 1818-19-20
Pigots - Published 1818

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Done the A's and B's but I have some questions for anyone brave.

Angel, Leonard Cowley, South-st. – is this new?

Ball, Joseph Jowett, Bridge-bouses - Can't find - is this new ?

Ball, Richard Brannand, Bridge-house*- Can't find - is this new ?

Ball, Samuel Robins, Jehu-lane – Is this new ?

Ball, George Chapman, Scotland-st. (also lists Ball, George Blisset, Grindlegate)

Ball, John Wright, Sanspavours - is this new ?

Ball, Hannah Marshall, Campo-lane (also lists Ball, Antepast Stevens, Campo-lane)

Barrel, Sarah Pinder, Pond-lane - I've added this to Barrel - Little Pond St - Same surname, Pinder. Or Is this new ?

Barley Mow, Jos. Goodlad, Westbar-green - is this new ?

Black Jug, John Freeborough, Bridge-houses - is this new ?

Black Swan, John Cricb, Snig-hill – Can’t edit the listing.

Black Swan, Luke Stamford, Pond-lane – Is this the Little Pond Street one? (Stamford/Staniforth)

Blue Boy, Joseph Stringer, Shudehill (Is it the Allen Street one, which also has a Joseph Stringer)

Brittania, Samuel Yates, Trippet-lane – is this new ?

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Angel, 14 Button Lane/18-22 South Street, Moor, Leonard Cowley there 1818-1829

Ball, 23 Oborne Street/2 Orborne/23 New Field Street/23 Newfield, Bridgehouses, Joseph Jowett 1818-1823

Ball, Richard Brannand, Bridge-house*- Can't find - is this new ? - Name not on my lists, unknown status

Not Done

Ball, Samuel Robins, Jehu-lane – Is this new ? Most likely Blue Bell, 13 Jehu Lane/Commercial Street, known to be open in 1820.

Ball, George Chapman, Scotland-st. (also lists Ball, George Blisset, Grindlegate) - that is what I have, both names in 1818, though George Chapman is named 1821-1823 on my data.

Ball, John Wright = Norfolk Arms, 18 Sands Paviours, Bow Street on my data there from 1822-1834.

Edit:

All above addressed apart from Richard Brannand

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Ball, Hannah Marshall, Campo-lane (also lists Ball, Antepast Stevens, Campo-lane) - mmm, complicated

Ball, 26 Campo Lane, Antepast Stevens (actually Antipas) on my lists 1818-1828

but also Ball, 28 Townhead Street, Hannah Marshall 1818-1828, though listed with Henry Marshall in 1825

One to discuss further methinks, or wait on UKL and another opinion.

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Barrel, Sarah Pinder, Pond-lane - I've added this to Barrel - Little Pond St - Same surname, Pinder. Or Is this new ? I have Sarah Pinder 1818 and Thomas Pinder from 1822 onwards, seemingly for forever.

Barley Mow, Jos. Goodlad, Westbar-green - is this new ? - it is on my list

Black Jug, John Freeborough, Bridge-houses - is this new ? - it is on my list

Black Swan, John Cricb, Snig-hill – Can’t edit the listing. - John Crich

Black Swan, Luke Stamford, Pond-lane – Is this the Little Pond Street one? (Stamford/Staniforth) - yes, 1 Little Pond street, or 15 or indeed maybe number 60, Staniforth is the spelling from 1822 onwards.

Blue Boy, Joseph Stringer, Shudehill (Is it the Allen Street one, which also has a Joseph Stringer) - Shudehill and Allen Street seem quite some distance apart.Stringer definately at Blue Boy Street/Allen Street based on other data. Personally I would need a bit more convincing that there was a Blue Boy on Shudehill. Already have Golden Lion at number 2, Cross Keys, number 4, Lion and Lamb number 6 and the French Horn, number 7.

Brittania, Samuel Yates, Trippet-lane – is this new ? It is on my list with Samuel as only named keeper (mine has an entry headed 1818-1820)

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