RichardB Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 I'll go along with that, I've found one or two myself in this way in which it says it's a beer house but under more scrutiny it turns out to have a title to the house but whether it's licenced as such . . ? Any and all such are acceptable to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 As those are the only named pubs in the beerhouse listing from the 1845 Whites, is the cross referencing of address' enough proof of an owner? For instance (just at random): Lyall Thomas, 8 Sussex street is listed. If I search the index for '8 Sussex' I find: Gas Tank Inn Address 8 Sussex Street Open Thoughts? Thank you, updated to A to Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 The Springwood 67 Freedom Street 1862 , 63, 64, 65, James Morton 1876 , 79, 83, Thomas Devereux 1887, 88, 89, 90, 93, 95, 96, 98, Thomas Leadbeater 1902, 03, 05, 07, Joseph Greaves 1910 , 12, 13, 16, 17, 20, 21, 22 George Shelley Posted to A to Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 312 West Bar - is that 312 Shalesmoor, the one with the tunnels to the River ? 312 West Bar; didn't think/know West Bar had numbers that high ... or am I mistaken ? Sorry, my mistake, should have been Shalesmoor as on A to Z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 The Sportsman Hackenthorpe 1833 John Booth 1865 J Booth 1876 John Bramall 1879, 83, Joshua Binney 1888, 89, 90, Walter Booth 1893, 95, 96, 98, 1902, John Henry Frith 1903, 07, Mrs Caroline Frith 1910, 12, 13, 16, Charles Rippon 1917, 19, 20, 21, 22, Tom Lancaster The Sportsman Town End Stannington 1865, Mrs D Furness 1876, 79, 83, William Fletcher 1887, 88, 89, 90, Squire Elijah Oates 1893, 95, 96, Mrs Sarah Ann Oates 1902 , 03, 07, Wallis Twigg 1912,13, 16, 17, Willis Gray 1919, 20, 21, 22, J Willis Gray. Posted to A to Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 Heres some named ones from White's 1845 (inc some new ones??): Allott Thomas, beerhouse, Milton Arms, Little Sheffield Milton Arms pushed back from 1871 to 1845. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 Heres some named ones from White's 1845 (inc some new ones??): Andrews Charles, beerhouse, Earl Grey, Ecclesall New Road Earl Grey pushed back from 1854 to 1845. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 Heres some named ones from White's 1845 (inc some new ones??): Askham Joshua, beerhouse, Victoria Cottage, Jericho Street Victoria (not previously known as Victoria Cottage) pushed back from 1852 to 1845. Joshua Askham known already at that address.(42 Jericho Street) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 Heres some named ones from White's 1845 (inc some new ones??): Buxton Isaac, vict. Porter Cottage, 68 Porter street Premises known from 1825. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 Heres some named ones from White's 1845 (inc some new ones??): Cooper James, beerhouse, Crown, 23 Blue Boy street Premises known from 1835. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 Heres some named ones from White's 1845 (inc some new ones??): Cundy Jonathon, beerhouse, Horse and Jockey, 14 Sheaf street Premises known from 1825, Joseph Cundy known at Shead Street, Park in 1849. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 Sorry, my mistake, should have been Shalesmoor as on A to Z. I'm watching ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 Heres some named ones from White's 1845 (inc some new ones??): Davies Abraham, beerhouse, Rancliffe Arms, 10 Anson street Lord Rancliffe, 95 or 10 Lord Street - Abraham Davis known here in 1846. So, did Anson Street become Lord Street ? if so, when ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 Heres some named ones from White's 1845 (inc some new ones??): Dean William, beerhouse, Ball, Hillfoot Ball, 23 Orborne Street/23 New Field - William Dean known 1839-1841. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Heres some named ones from White's 1845 (inc some new ones??): Cooper James, beerhouse, Crown, 23 Blue Boy street Premises known from 1835. OS Map 274 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 Heres some named ones from White's 1845 (inc some new ones??): Eyre Elijah, beerhouse, Bull's Head, 24 Cross Smithfield Bull's Head, 24 Cross Smithfield - known from 1797 but only one keeper Charles Fox (1871). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Bull's Head, 24 Cross Smithfield - known from 1797 but only one keeper Charles Fox (1871). The Bull's Head at Cross Smithfield is numbers 29 Cross Smithfield on the A toZ but on the census it is 24-26. My ancester is Charles Fox and on the census / documents is 26 Cross Smithfield. But going back to the Bull's Head and Elijah Eyre , the early Eyre family ran the Red Lion at Smithfields. !845 updated to A to Z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Ball, 23 Orborne Street/23 New Field - William Dean known 1839-1841. Is this the same Ball we are talking about? Oborne Street is Pitsmoor, I've come across the Ball [Old Blue Ball ] at Hillsborough being classed as Hillfoot???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Milton Arms pushed back from 1871 to 1845. Milton Arms Little Sheffield 1845 updated. Ps we had got the dates from 1849 to 1862 RichardB [ I bet you never look at the A to Z ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Earl Grey pushed back from 1854 to 1845. Earl Grey New Ecclesall Road 1845 updated PS . We have got 1833 on the A to Z RichardB, [ I bet you never look at the Ato Z ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Victoria (not previously known as Victoria Cottage) pushed back from 1852 to 1845. Joshua Askham known already at that address.(42 Jericho Street) Victoria Cottage Jericho Street, 1845 updated. PS RichardB we have got Victoria Cottage 1849 [ I bet you . . . . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Premises known from 1825. Porter Cottage 1845 updated to A to Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Premises known from 1825, Joseph Cundy known at Shead Street, Park in 1849. Horse & Jockey 14 Sheaf Street , 1845 updated to A to Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Lord Rancliffe, 95 or 10 Lord Street - Abraham Davis known here in 1846. So, did Anson Street become Lord Street ? if so, when ? Lord Rancliffe Arms , Lord Street, Anson Street, it seems to switch from one to the other. Was it on a corner? 1845 updated.to A to Z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Premises known from 1835. Crown 23 Blue Boy Street 1845 updated to A to Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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