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Christ Church Gleadless, also on Hollinsend Road at its junction with Ridgeway Road

May have posted some of these pictures previously in other topics.

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What a wonderful and nostalgic trip down memory lane I used to live in Gleadless thanks for posting those photos guys and well done ;-)

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What a wonderful and nostalgic trip down memory lane I used to live in Gleadless thanks for posting those photos guys and well done ;-)

Welcome to Sheffield History Thasc and thanks for your appreciation of this thread.

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The middle bedroom appears to be yours, the one directly above the back door into the kitchen. Its that Radio Hallam sticker you use as your avitar that gives it away.

You said once before in the "when we had real snow" thread that this was Morland Close. The house in the picture appears to be at a very angular corner where the Morland Close block (shown in picture?) and a similar block on Leighton Road meet at an angle.

Is the house shown number 21 which is at the most angular corner as it is at a fork point, Morland Close having more terraced blocks than Leighton Road can cater for.

If its not number 21 it must be either number 11, - also on a very angular but not forked corner, or number 1 at a fairly straight, only slightly angular corner. This assumes my house numbering is correct and matches that on the lower part of Morland Road immediately below these blocks.

By the way, I live at Intake and I don't know where this similar housing style is, - do you have a street name for it?

there are some more council-built houses of this style on Fraser walk/ road area in Woodseats, and some similar-ish at Low Edges, with the odd arrangement of the "back" door being placed beside the front door.

As you come along Norton Avenue from the Herdings end, toward the Water tower, and turn down Blackstock Road, there are a few more of that style of house off Constable Road, and below the John o'Gaunt pub, on Blackstock Road itself.

there are also some in Norton Lees/ Warminster Road area, on Brindley Close, and in Greenhill.

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Welcome to Sheffield History Thasc and thanks for your appreciation of this thread.

Thanks Dave ;-)

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there are some more council-built houses of this style on Fraser walk/ road area in Woodseats, and some similar-ish at Low Edges, with the odd arrangement of the "back" door being placed beside the front door.

As you come along Norton Avenue from the Herdings end, toward the Water tower, and turn down Blackstock Road, there are a few more of that style of house off Constable Road, and below the John o'Gaunt pub, on Blackstock Road itself.

there are also some in Norton Lees/ Warminster Road area, on Brindley Close, and in Greenhill.

I did know of another area where there are these houses, but I cannot remember where they are at present, (I plead "blonde", and old-age creeping up on one! haha)

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I did know of another area where there are these houses, but I cannot remember where they are at present, (I plead "blonde", and old-age creeping up on one! haha)

That's it! I remembered!!! The Tithe Barn Lane area of Woodhouse! Yaaay not so blonde after all! hehe

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there are some more council-built houses of this style on Fraser walk/ road area in Woodseats, and some similar-ish at Low Edges, with the odd arrangement of the "back" door being placed beside the front door.

As you come along Norton Avenue from the Herdings end, toward the Water tower, and turn down Blackstock Road, there are a few more of that style of house off Constable Road, and below the John o'Gaunt pub, on Blackstock Road itself.

there are also some in Norton Lees/ Warminster Road area, on Brindley Close, and in Greenhill.

The doors are not exactly next to each other but they are on the same side of the building.

On some 1950's houses on the Jaunty estate the back and front doors are really next to each other but on these houses on the Herdings they are on the same frontage but seperated as my picture in post #37 of this thread shows.

Look at the house on the end of the block

The front door is clearly visible on the left hand side, this leads in to the bottom of the staircase and then through another door into the main living room.

The back door is partially hidden behind that white fencing, being directly below the upstairs window at the top of the stairs landing (the other window alongside it to the right is the bathroom / toilet). The back door lead directly into a utility room and then through another door into the kitchen. The kitchen had a door into the back garden (see some of the other pictures in this thread of the rear of the houses, Markbaby has posted some good ones)

That white fencing divided the "front" and "back" areas of the house, many residents have now had this removed as its initial purpose seemed to be no more than somewhere to hid the dustbin.

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Welcome to Sheffield History Thasc and thanks for your appreciation of this thread.

I can only echo Thasc's comments: what a wonderful set of pictures, to remind me of my childhood in Gleadless. I have for many years, if asked where I am from, initially answered Gleadless even though by the time I was born Gleadless was a suburb of Sheffield.

A few thoughts:

re post # 11: the old house in the grounds of Ashleigh School. I recall one wall being held up with wooden struts when I was in the sixth form. Thankfully by then the new sixth form centre had been built and the old house was the sixth from Library. I was always a bit nervous about going in there, given it's rather rickety nature.

It seems very odd when I return to Sheffield, now that both parts of Ashleigh School have vanished. I might not have liked the school that much (too many journeys in the cold and rain between the two buildings didn't help), but I feel as if part of my personal history has gone. At least Gleadless Infant & Junior School still exists (re post # 75), and doesn't seem to have changed much. I don't remember a date stone, but I was always intrigued by the two gates which led onto Hollinsend Road being labelled "Boys" and "Girls" (if I remember correctly). Neither gate was in use when I attended, however, access being via a side entrance along the roadway leading to Hollinsend Park.

re post #53. Also missing from the 1948 map are the Kirkby Estate and the council houses along Jaunty Lane. Ashleigh School and Hurlfield School are also absent, only appearing at a later date.

Regards,

Mad Annie

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I can only echo Thasc's comments: what a wonderful set of pictures, to remind me of my childhood in Gleadless. I have for many years, if asked where I am from, initially answered Gleadless even though by the time I was born Gleadless was a suburb of Sheffield.

A few thoughts:

re post # 11: the old house in the grounds of Ashleigh School. I recall one wall being held up with wooden struts when I was in the sixth form. Thankfully by then the new sixth form centre had been built and the old house was the sixth from Library. I was always a bit nervous about going in there, given it's rather rickety nature.

It seems very odd when I return to Sheffield, now that both parts of Ashleigh School have vanished. I might not have liked the school that much (too many journeys in the cold and rain between the two buildings didn't help), but I feel as if part of my personal history has gone. At least Gleadless Infant & Junior School still exists (re post # 75), and doesn't seem to have changed much. I don't remember a date stone, but I was always intrigued by the two gates which led onto Hollinsend Road being labelled "Boys" and "Girls" (if I remember correctly). Neither gate was in use when I attended, however, access being via a side entrance along the roadway leading to Hollinsend Park.

re post #53. Also missing from the 1948 map are the Kirkby Estate and the council houses along Jaunty Lane. Ashleigh School and Hurlfield School are also absent, only appearing at a later date.

Regards,

Mad Annie

Hi MadAnnie77,

Thanks for your comments about this thread, glad you like the pictures and the information it provides.

When I was in Ashleigh sixth form in 1972 - 74 the old house was out of use and proped up as you describe, the sixth form common room was on the top floor at the far left hand end, nearest the pig styes and directly above the school library. One of the deputies was always complaining about the noise from the music we played at the time. We were allowed to decorate the common room and some A level art students painted a giant Union Jack on one wall, full height from skirting board to ceiling, much to the dismay of our fellow student Dominic Sandivaski who, being Italian, wanted an Italian flag. He described the Italian flag as "Red, White and Green, vertical stripes" followed by "The same flag that Ireland has" (not quite right as Ireland has orange in place of red) at which point he was ridiculed with "Fancy having a country that has to SHARE a flag with someone else!!"

The Hollinsend Road entrance to Gleadless Nursery & Infant School on Hollinsend Road has the seperate BOYS and GIRLS entrances in common with many other Victorian schools and these stones date back to then. The Junior school is a much more modern building on the other side of Hollinsend Road directly opposite the Nursery / Infant school.

As you say the main entrances were rarely used, except for the main gate which gave delivery vans direct access to the school yard and building. Students usually used the one on the lane into the park for the infant school or an entrance on Ridgehill Avenue near the caretakers house for the nursery. The nursery is frequently used as a Polling Station for elections and this Ridgehill entrance is used to go and vote.

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Students usually used the one on the lane into the park for the infant school or an entrance on Ridgehill Avenue near the caretakers house for the nursery. The nursery is frequently used as a Polling Station for elections and this Ridgehill entrance is used to go and vote.

Went down there last Thursday to vote in the EU elections.

They were expecting a poor turn out as a protest vote against the latest ministers expenses fiddling scandal but it was nothing of the sort.

Busy when we got there, people walking up and down the road coming to vote. At the desk plenty of names already struck through, commented to the staff how busy it was and she said it had been like it all day (Went down after work and tea about 7pm)

Ballot paper was like a length of toilet paper, - 12 candidates. If after voting you folded the paper just in half it wouldn't fit through the hole in the Ballot Box, girl at the desk said I could fold it more than once (I didn't think you were supposed to do that). That makes more work for some poor tally clark down the town hall who has to unfold them again to count them.

Seems to have been a fairly successful election, just hope the best candidate for the job gets through. NONE of them seemed to go canvassing this time and some of those 12 parties were so minority I hadn't even heard of them never mind their policies.

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Christ Church Gleadless, also on Hollinsend Road at its junction with Ridgeway Road

May have posted some of these pictures previously in other topics.

I notice on the two photos of the church that new pinnacles have appeared - they look a bit odd, given the rest of the stone work wasn't cleaned. During my time in Sheffield the church was pinnacle-free, as shown on this image from Picture Sheffield, whereas originally the church did have pinnacles, as seen here

My recollection is being told that the original pinnacles were removed after becoming unstable in high winds sometime in the late sixties/early seventies. This might be completely wrong, however.

Also to note is the clock on the tower (or not, on the oldest photograph). This was erected in memory of Reverend Crossland, vicar of Gleadless from 1887 to 1920.

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I notice on the two photos of the church that new pinnacles have appeared - they look a bit odd, given the rest of the stone work wasn't cleaned. During my time in Sheffield the church was pinnacle-free, as shown on this image from Picture Sheffield, whereas originally the church did have pinnacles, as seen here

My recollection is being told that the original pinnacles were removed after becoming unstable in high winds sometime in the late sixties/early seventies. This might be completely wrong, however.

Also to note is the clock on the tower (or not, on the oldest photograph). This was erected in memory of Reverend Crossland, vicar of Gleadless from 1887 to 1920.

Yes those very new pinacles appeared only within the last 2 years, although I do remember the previous pinacles which they replaced.

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A view over the Gleadless Valley taken from Myrtle Springs.

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A view over the Gleadless Valley taken from Myrtle Springs.

Another view from a similar location showing more detail in the distance and covering a bigger pan angle.

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The site of the missing tower block

In the 1950's build 3 tower blocks on top of Herdings hill,

They become a prominent landmark visible for miles around and out into north Derbyshire

Then in the 1990's demolish one of them for no apparent good reason and do the other 2 up.

This is the site of the missing tower block

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Between the shops, the missing demolished tower and the park is the old Herdings farm house which dates back centuries. In recent times the building has been home to the local youth club. Sadly a recent fire has now almost destroyed this historic building and it is boarded up awaiting its fate. Also sadly. I never took a picture of it in 1971 when it was still in good condition. This building has been the subject of one of my mystery locations in the "only the gateposts are left" thread as the original gateposts to the entrance are still there.

...And Now The Good News

It looks like the old farm house is being repaired rather than demolished as it seems to be getting a new roof.

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The other half of Ashleigh school was on Gleadless Road.

This was built in 1960 as the new "Central Technical School" to replace the one in Leopold Street in town which became the Education Offices. It became comprehensive in 1969, combining with the old Hurlfield Girls School, half a mile away across the field to become Ashleigh Upper School, housing years 4 & 5 (or 10 & 11 as they are now) and the sixth form. It also had specialist areas for science and music. The building remained as Ashleigh school even after the demolition of the lower school but sadly this building too has been demolished, at some time around the turn of the century, to be replaced with yet another small housing development.

The picture shows the view from the top floor of the building, taken in May 1973, looking out over the Gleadless Road entrance, over the Gleadless Valley to the Herdings estate beyond, instantly recognisable with those 3 tower blocks on the top of the hill.

Minox quality picture of Ashleigh upper school taken from Gleadless Road. Photo from 1984

It was from the third floor of this building, somewhere in the middle (Doctor Richardson's chemistry lab) that the photo in the quoted post was taken from.

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Minox quality picture of Ashleigh upper school taken from Gleadless Road. Photo from 1984

It was from the third floor of this building, somewhere in the middle (Doctor Richardson's chemistry lab) that the photo in the quoted post was taken from.

Also found this

The Ashleigh School official school photograph of the sixth form 1973

Anyone know anyone in this picture (I know some but not all)

...and as skeets would have said "...not a bad looking lad...."

(a sort of Spot DaveH contest)

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Also found this

The Ashleigh School official school photograph of the sixth form 1973

Anyone know anyone in this picture (I know some but not all)

...and as skeets would have said "...not a bad looking lad...."

(a sort of Spot DaveH contest)

Am I allowed to guess at this one

Dave do you know the name of the lad on the middle row 2nd in from the right, sure I know him.

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Am I allowed to guess at this one

Dave do you know the name of the lad on the middle row 2nd in from the right, sure I know him.

NO! you are NOT allowed to "guess" as you already know the answer. You are BARRED from this one!

Second from the right middle row,

Is that the one with the glasses, moustache and tie that looks like he's wearing a disguise so as not to be recognised?

If so, I don't recognise him, - or at least I can't remember his name.

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NO! you are NOT allowed to "guess" as you already know the answer. You are BARRED from this one!

Second from the right middle row,

Is that the one with the glasses, moustache and tie that looks like he's wearing a disguise so as not to be recognised?

If so, I don't recognise him, - or at least I can't remember his name.

no the lad next to the end dark jacket glasses wavy hair

Is that Macom Flude on the back row?

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no the lad next to the end dark jacket glasses wavy hair

Is that Macom Flude on the back row?

OK got him, - still don't know who he is either.

The lad immediately behind him is indeed the old ex-Norfolk student of our aquaintance Malcolm Flude.

Sadly Malcolm is no longer with us and I still find the way his untimely death at 45 was reported by the news and another popular Sheffield based TV series quite upsetting so I will not go into the details here.

There are 3 ex-Norfolk students in this Ashleigh picture

Myself, Malcolm Flude, and if you look at the girls on the front row you may be able to pick out Janet Clark who was in our class at Norfolk.

This is the 1973-4 photo taken at the start of my final (upper sixth) year.

Malcolm was a year older than us but stayed on to get an extra Drama qualification. I didn't see a lot of him as arts subjects were on the other lower school or "Hurlfield Girls" site while sciences were on the Gleadless Road or "Central Technical" site.

When I went up to Ashleigh in 1972 there were only 3 of us from our year went up, me, Janet Clark and Pat Taylor (also known as Pat Chalkum, - another very tragic tale). Pat did only 1 year at Ashleigh and then got a job at the Education Offices in Leopold Street so she is NOT on this picture. I think Susan Atkinson and Sheena Hukin were interested in going to Ashleigh at the time but I don't know what happened to them (well I do, Sue is a doctors receptionist and Sheena Ryder is a deputy head of a school in Hampshire, - but I don't know which route they took after leaving Norfolk)

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MALCOLM FLUDE 1954 - 2000

Memorial for Malcolm

Sadly missed.

Poor quality picture from my personal collection, taken on 120 roll film this time in October 1968 in moggy Matthews science lab.

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OK got him, - still don't know who he is either.

Myself, Malcolm Flude, and if you look at the girls on the front row you may be able to pick out Janet Clark who was in our class at Norfolk.

Is Janet 3rd in from the left front row?

Does the name Tim Toulson ring any bells?

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