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[Guest Gramps]

Which well-known Christmas carol was written by a Sheffield journalist ?

[dunsbyowl1867]

Which well-known Christmas carol was written by a Sheffield journalist ?

This one

http://www.hymnsandcarolsofchristmas.com/P...ds_anointed.htm

[dunsbyowl1867]

This one

http://www.hymnsandcarolsofchristmas.com/P...ds_anointed.htm

Though I've never come across that one so it must be this!

http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/a/f/afrglory.htm

[siren]

Dunsbyowl

Thanks, always been one of my favourites, now even more so now I know the Sheffield connection

[DaveH]

When my son was at Gleadless Juniour School the headmaster, Mr. New, who was very keen on promoting music in his school had the kids singinging a version of a well known Christmas Carol which he referred to as "The Sheffield Version" which had an extra verse about ringing bells and a different musical arrangement to the one you normally hear.

Trouble is, I can't remember which Carol it was, I think it was "While shepherds watched their flocks by night (Sheffield Version)"

Has anyone else ever come across this?

[Guest Gramps]

Though I've never come across that one so it must be this!

http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/a/f/afrglory.htm

That's the one, I didn't know until it was referred to as the Sheffield carol on the radio, - I've never heard of that one you linked to first either.

[dunsbyowl1867]

When my son was at Gleadless Juniour School the headmaster, Mr. New, who was very keen on promoting music in his school had the kids singinging a version of a well known Christmas Carol which he referred to as "The Sheffield Version" which had an extra verse about ringing bells and a different musical arrangement to the one you normally hear.

Trouble is, I can't remember which Carol it was, I think it was "While shepherds watched their flocks by night (Sheffield Version)"

Has anyone else ever come across this?

There is in fact old very old and fine traditional of South Yorkshire/Sheffield Carols I know are sung in the pubs around Ecclesfield and Grenoside (and Derbyshire) - has anyone been to any of these "sessions"?

http://www.villagecarols.org.uk/

http://www.folk-network.com/events/2002/carols.html

http://www.folk-network.com/miscellany/chr...k-visiting.html

[dunsbyowl1867]

And Kate Rusby has just released an album of "Carols" - "Sweet Bells" a few samples on here.

http://www.fishrecords.co.uk/reviews/sweetbells.htm

[DaveH]

There is in fact old very old and fine traditional of South Yorkshire/Sheffield Carols I know are sung in the pubs around Ecclesfield and Grenoside (and Derbyshire) - has anyone been to any of these "sessions"?

http://www.villagecarols.org.uk/

http://www.folk-network.com/events/2002/carols.html

http://www.folk-network.com/miscellany/chr...k-visiting.html

Thanks Dunsbyowl,

This seems to be the collection of "Sheffield versions" of old Carols that my sons Junior School headmaster seemed to be working from.

Nice to know someone in our schools was passing on local traditions even if I didn't realise it at the time.

[ukelele lady]

There is in fact old very old and fine traditional of South Yorkshire/Sheffield Carols I know are sung in the pubs around Ecclesfield and Grenoside (and Derbyshire) - has anyone been to any of these "sessions"?

http://www.villagecarols.org.uk/

http://www.folk-network.com/events/2002/carols.html

http://www.folk-network.com/miscellany/chr...k-visiting.html

Some years ago where I live they use to start 6 weeks before Christmas with the old carols, every Sunday lunch and also in the evening. There were many a fallout with the landlords as to who booked the local choirs first.

It did fill the pubs but after 6 weeks of Sweet Bells you were glad to hear a few traditional carols.

If you were not local you wouldn't know the words, so song books were sold.

It is not as popular as it use to be as the young landlords or the young customers don't want it.

[Guest plain talker]

When I lived in Stocksbridge, my very elderly neighbour (she'd have been 103 next month, bless her) used to sing a local carol which went something about "Hail Shiny (Smiley?) Morn!"

There was a tradition of going round the numerous pubs in the area, Bolstertone etc, and having a singing competition amongst the clientèle.

[dunsbyowl1867]

When I lived in Stocksbridge, my very elderly neighbour (she'd have been 103 next month, bless her) used to sing a local carol which went something about "Hail Shiny (Smiley?) Morn!"

There was a tradition of going round the numerous pubs in the area, Bolstertone etc, and having a singing competition amongst the client�le.

Was it this one ?

HAIL SMILING MORN (an Easter Carol)

(Reginald Spofforth)

Hail, smiling morn, smiling morn,

That tips the hills with gold (2)

And whose rosy fingers open wide

the gates of heav'n (2),

And whose rosy fingers open wide

the gates of heav'n!

And all the green fields,

That nature does enfold,

All the green fields,

That nature does enfold,

At whose bright presence,

Darkness flies, darkness flies away,

Flies away! Flies away!

Hail, Hail, Hail, Hail,

Hail, Hail, Hail, Hail!

note: I don't know much about it. I'm told it's an

Easter Carol. We sing it on Easter pilgrimages

to Walsingham (Norfolk, England), along with

other seasonal stuff. Those pilgrimages have

gone on since 1947, and the song was already

known then, but it's probably much older. CB

from "A Set of Six Glees" 1810 MD

@religion @seasonal

[Guest plain talker]

I'm sure it must be the same one, Dunsby.

[madannie77]

There is nothing quite like resurrecting a very old thread 😀

Documentary on BBC Radio 3 this evening about the traditional carols from South Yorkshire. I enjoyed it very much.

"Elizabeth Alker explores the ancient tradition of South Yorkshire carolling. Originally sung in churches by musicians and choirs, the carol tradition in the Victorian era suffered what must have appeared to some as a huge reverse. Carols, it seemed, had failed the Victorian humour test and all but a few were driven out of churches. They found a new home, however, in pubs around Sheffield and South Yorkshire, where they found favour and sometimes a licentious edge. They flourish there today where the tradition has survived intact and according to the international carol singing expert, the musicologist Dr Ian Russell, Professor Emeritus of the University of Aberdeen, the movement is proving increasingly popular, spreading across county lines to other part of the UK and abroad. And the tradition of carol composing is still evolving there too - there are over 30 charted versions of While Shepherds Watched, for instance, including revivals of once lost examples. Elizabeth Alker sets out in search of lost carols, a thriving and binding social phenomenon, speaking with Dr. Russell, local punters for whom these carols serve an important social function and folk musicians like Kate Rusby, brought up on the pub carolling tradition and one of the vast array of musicians who are enabling this hidden tradition to flourish."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001thbn

[Lysanderix]

When I lived in Loxley it seemed all the areas pubs had carol services singing the old traditional areas carols and tunes. Money was collected for charity and the services extended throughout Advent. I seem to recall there was an LP of the carols.

[Ponytail]

Dungworth and Sheffield Carols.

 

[Ponytail]

Stannington Brass Band and Carols in the Pub 2011.