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Stuart0742

Continuing this from my Mystery Location Topic

Can't see Market Tavern in the main entries, was it called the Old No. 12, Henry Pond has suggested this, I seem to think he is correct.

The main entry says the Old No. 12 was Haymarket.

Is this the same place just moved/rebuilt?

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Continuing this from my Mystery Location Topic

Can't see Market Tavern in the main entries, was it called the Old No. 12, Henry Pond has suggested this, I seem to think he is correct.

The main entry says the Old No. 12 was Haymarket.

Is this the same place just moved/rebuilt?

Market Tavern, Old No. 12, Double Six (as my Father knew it) - on our list as Rotherham House, Exchange Street

as ever, I'm more than willing to take comments/constructive critisism, I could be completely wrong.

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Stuart0742

Market Tavern, Old No. 12, Double Six (as my Father knew it) - on our list as Rotherham House, Exchange Street

as ever, I'm more than willing to take comments/constructive critisism, I could be completely wrong.

Rotherham House is new to me, well you learn something every day :)

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Rotherham House is new to me, well you learn something every day smile.gif

http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s15485&pos=1&action=zoom&id=18250

Sure I've seen a better picture than that somewhere, buggered if I can remember where; the other side of the Wimpy Bar was a camping shop - but probably wasn't in earlier times; this PictureSheffield from 1960's.

All comments/memories gratefully received - the list is there as a reference; mistakes, duplicates are inevitable - the list is there partly because it was driving me mad, partly to attract corrections/updates.

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wil this be any help to you; Wiley's was a wine and spirit merchant and their premises was called Old No.12. it started in 1837 at 12 haymarket and in 1862 at 23-25 haymarket.

(the two pictures of the shop fronts may not show up clearly).

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Stuart0742

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So, Steves photo and the PictureSheffield link on Richards post both show Exchange St, where as the main entry and Old No 12's post mention Haymarket.

As Baldrick said in Black Adder goes Forth "When did one State of Affairs, become the other State of Affairs"

ie when did the Old No. 12 move from Haymarket to Exchange St.

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So, Steves photo and the PictureSheffield link on Richards post both show Exchange St, where as the main entry and Old No 12's post mention Haymarket.

As Baldrick said in Black Adder goes Forth "When did one State of Affairs, become the other State of Affairs"

ie when did the Old No. 12 move from Haymarket to Exchange St.

Please update our main list, removing Old No. 12 from this building; make sure it shows Rotherham and Market Tavern (as we have evidence of both).

That leaves the Old No. 12 on Haymarket - is that on the list ? If not, please add it in the appropriate place.

Meanwhile, I'll update my main list - ready for a possible late entrant in the race for the Christmas No. 1 lol

I'll be posting lists by year, showing Pubs with people and a listing of Pubs with no known keeper - then we'll watch the sparks fly.

As stated elsewhere I'm personally only interested up to 1951, however, the biggest bunch of names missing is current/recent keepers - any of those (with a picture if possible) would be most welcome and would reduce our missing % very rapidly.

Criticism is seen as constructive - you notice duplicates/errors, we'll do our best to review them and put them right - this list will never be perfect, what is important, is that it is a good list and with your input and further research - getting better.

You never know Santa might even bring you the full list as I currently have it - but only if you're good and eat all your greens :wacko:

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Please update our main list, removing Old No. 12 from this building; make sure it shows Rotherham and Market Tavern (as we have evidence of both).

That leaves the Old No. 12 on Haymarket - is that on the list ? If not, please add it in the appropriate place.

Meanwhile, I'll update my main list - ready for a possible late entrant in the race for the Christmas No. 1 lol

I'll be posting lists by year, showing Pubs with people and a listing of Pubs with no known keeper - then we'll watch the sparks fly.

As stated elsewhere I'm personally only interested up to 1951, however, the biggest bunch of names missing is current/recent keepers - any of those (with a picture if possible) would be most welcome and would reduce our missing % very rapidly.

Criticism is seen as constructive - you notice duplicates/errors, we'll do our best to review them and put them right - this list will never be perfect, what is important, is that it is a good list and with your input and further research - getting better.

You never know Santa might even bring you the full list as I currently have it - but only if you're good and eat all your greens :wacko:

Entry Rotherham House updated.

I have the following questions

1. Was this place ever called the Old no.12?

2. Was it ever a Berni Inn?

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Entry Rotherham House updated.

I have the following questions

1. Was this place ever called the Old no.12?

2. Was it ever a Berni Inn?

The Old No. 12 was also known as The Double Six - a nickname; Berni Inn - no idea.

You wait 'til you cop the Full Monty list see if it does your head in !

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http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/pi...ff.refno=s15485

Sure I've seen a better picture than that somewhere, buggered if I can remember where; the other side of the Wimpy Bar was a camping shop - but probably wasn't in earlier times; this PictureSheffield from 1960's.

I think that's a pic of the 'new' Rotherham House, here's a pic of the old one

http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s15477&pos=1&action=zoom&id=18243

It was re-built at some stage, perhaps in the 1920s ?

How I remember Exchange street - http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s15480&pos=1&action=zoom&id=18245

Imagine double decker trams trundling down there now, frightening all the pigeons laugh.gif

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I think that's a pic of the 'new' Rotherham House, here's a pic of the old one http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/pi...ff.refno=s15477

It was re-built at some stage, perhaps in the 1920s ?

How I remember Exchange street - http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/pi...ff.refno=s15480

Imagine double decker trams trundling down there now, frightening all the pigeons he he

Hello,

I'm new to this site and I haven't lived in Sheffield, or England for that matter, since 1974. So please give me a little

latitude. I do; however, make frequent visits to Sheffield but can't keep up with every change.

The The Market Tavern refered to in the photo was the Rotherham House in my day. It probably got its name because the

Rotherhman tram service used to start right outside the front door. (actually in the middle of the street).

Somebody also mentioned the Old No. 12 as being at the same location. I can't comment on a later move to Exchange

Street; however, I do recall that the Old No.12 first came to life in the late 1940's in Haymarket. It was above Wiley's wine

shop. The shop was located between the old Arthur Davy shop (at the corner of Haymarket & Castle Street) and the other

Davy shop/Mikado Restuarant. The building had a sort of mock- tudor frontage.

Regards

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The Old No 12 is clearly shown to be in Haymarket on this map.

Is there any evidence that Rotherham House was ever know as Old No 12 ?

Like Stuart0742 asks in post # 9

'was Rotherham House a Berni Inn ?'

Yes it was a 'Berni' Inn around about 1971/3,

I well remember going in the place at the time,

though I can't fully remember it's name ..

that's when it was most likely called the 'Old No 12'

I think!

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Stuart0742

Like Stuart0742 asks in post # 9

'was Rotherham House a Berni Inn ?'

Yes it was a 'Berni' Inn around about 1971/3,

I well remember going in the place at the time,

though I can't fully remember it's name ..

that's when it was most likely called the 'Old No 12'

I think!

Cheers Steve,

It makes sense if they changed it to a Berni Inn then, they might also rename it "Old No. 12" would have been as good as anything.

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Cheers Steve,

It makes sense if they changed it to a Berni Inn then, they might also rename it "Old No. 12" would have been as good as anything.

I have just found it mentioned in one of Admins Topics Here scroll down his list to eight from the bottom.

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Sheffield History
21 hours ago, Hopman said:

March 6th 2021.

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The sooner that area is finished the better eh!

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DaveJC

If the reasons that classic buildings such as this were as long lasting as the fabric of them we still might have a city centre worth visiting. The names of the license holders were as well known as the pubs that they ran, they were well respected members of the community, whilst still being larger than life characters, you can’t have a good pub without the services of a good landlord/landlady.

 

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