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Cravens of Darnall had a long and proud history of supplies bodies for railway vehicles and bus bodies world wide

The last bus to be bodied by Cravens was a Bedford supplied to Sheffield Transport: this bus was purchased for the rail replacement service which would run when the Hope Valley line was closed.

The chassis for this bus was delivered to queens road from Bedford and was shortened before bodying hence reports in some publications that there were two vehicles. In order to avoid further confusion this is NOT the committee coach which caused so much controversy either.

The line didn't close and the bus was sold to King Ecgbert School at Dore and then passed to Greenthorpes the garage people who used it as a family run about. The photo below shows the bus in their ownership

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Cravens of Darnall had a long and proud history of supplies bodies for railway vehicles and bus body’s world wide

The last bus to be bodied by cravens was a Bedford supplied to Sheffield transport this bus was purchased for the rail replacement service which would run when the hope valley line was closed.

The chassis for this bus was delivered to queens road from Bedford and was shortened before bodying hence reports in some publications that there were two vehicles. In order to avoid further confusion this is NOT the committee coach which caused so much controversy either.

The line didn’t close and the bus was sold to king ecgbert school at dore and then passed to greenthorpes the garage people who used it as a family run about the photo below shows the bus in there ownership

...as i have just posted on the "Greenthorpe" thread - although it is a bit of an "ugly duckling" ,i cant believe this bus was'nt bought for preservation due to its infamous local connections! :(

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An advert for Cravens in the Institution of Locomotive Engineers Journal for July-August 1949:

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I well remember going past the Cravens factory on the train (to Retford I think) many times & seeing carraige units freshly painted, often looking quite colourful to be shipped around the world in the 50's . Shame its gone.

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Don't forget the TV program tonight on BBC 4 at 9 o'clock,

Some of the trams shown are in Sheffield, I believe it's been on before but worth a second viewing.

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Cravens of Darnall had a long and proud history of supplies bodies for railway vehicles and bus body’s world wide

The last bus to be bodied by cravens was a Bedford supplied to Sheffield transport this bus was purchased for the rail replacement service which would run when the hope valley line was closed.

The chassis for this bus was delivered to queens road from Bedford and was shortened before bodying hence reports in some publications that there were two vehicles.

The line didn’t close and the bus was sold to king ecgbert school at dore and then passed to greenthorpes the garage people who used it as a family run about the photo below shows the bus in there ownership

Lets not forget that the Bedford was used by the STD band, occasionally it would be pressed into service due to bus shortages before its disposal in the early 70s. W/E.

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To highlight what bus man put in the first post of this topic about Cravens' business being world wide:

From 1959

cravens 1959 Vol 49.jpg

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And more locally, from a 1929 Corporation tram & bus timetable

cravens advert 1929.jpg

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Diesel Multiple Units built by Cravens.

Class 106 introduced 1956. Motor Brake Second

Class 105 - 1957 - M.B.S.

Class 105/2 - 1957

Class 105/1 - 1957. & 1958 Motor Composite

Class 105/2 1959 Motor Brake Second

Class 141 1956 & 1958 Driving Trailer Composite

 

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Cravens also built the three members of class 129, the single car parcels units in 1955, and the class 311 electric multiple units for use in the Glasgow area.

Not sure about the class 141's, they were a lot later and built by British Leyland from bus parts

 

Nigel L

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4 hours ago, Lemmy117 said:

Cravens also built the three members of class 129, the single car parcels units in 1955, and the class 311 electric multiple units for use in the Glasgow area.

Not sure about the class 141's, they were a lot later and built by British Leyland from bus parts

 

Nigel L

According to railcar.co.uk the DTCLs built for what became the Class 105 & 106 units were originally given the class number 141 when TOPS was introduced in the early 1970s, as listed above by HistoryDude. There were also some TCLs (for the three car sets) classified as 170s. I was unaware of those designations until HistoryDude's post, but I am now enlightened thanks to railcar.co.uk, where there is also a list of the class numbers allocated to all of the first generation DMU vehicles.

Cravens also built the Class 112 & 113 DMUs (50 cars of each type in total). These were built in 1960 and all withdrawn from use by the end of 1969.

 

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More about the Ro-railer here and here (pdf file)

It appears to have been a failure, working for only a few weeks before a front axle failure put it out of service on the rails for good.

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It doesn't sound as if the class 112 and 113 trains were very successful either, if they had a working life of under ten years. What was wrong with them?

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On 04/01/2017 at 08:26, Athy said:

It doesn't sound as if the class 112 and 113 trains were very successful either, if they had a working life of under ten years. What was wrong with them?

The carden shaft would shear a lot apparently, one sheared that baldly that it ruptured the fuel tank causing a fire, while it was in a tunnel! The resulting fire was really intense. 

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In the early 1950's I lived on Littledale and my bedroom looked out across some fields into Darnall Depot and Cravens. Anything interesting and it was a swift trot before school to "kop" it. Probably the finest thing I ever saw at Cravens was a full train set of coaches destined for some royal potentate somewhere in Asia.

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If l may ask something slightly.off line has anyone any info ss to their Ww2 activities?

A good friend of ours had the newsagents on Barber Road about no.36 or 38.l think.from at least 1930.on. About 1936 he moved to Scarborough as as hotelier. All.was well till.someone thoughtlessly dropped a bomb on it followed shortly by an instruction (Direction of Labour Regulations) to return at once back to Cravens in his trade as a jig and tool maker.which he did till 1946. The Ministry obviously found  him after several.years and  conveniently his mother still lived opposiite the works.

He was remarkably reticent about what he did and rather oddly only ever would admit to making ta fixtures for the Westland Lysander, hardly a fighting machine.  So please can anyone tell me what did go.on in the war? Was it buses still or what?  Anything top secret? Somebody will.know

 

 

 

 

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