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I'd like to bet you wouldn't want to wear the uniform either, have you looked at S09380 ? :(

HD

That long smock, with my current hair loss male pattern baldness would make me look like a monk or Friar Tuck rather than a teacher.

About a week ago I was invited to a halloween fancy dress party by some friends at work (younger teachers). My wife got me a grim reaper outfit with a similar black smock, a faceless hood and a sythe. So I could turn up in dress to see if anyone recognised me when I knocked on their door with the sythe blade and the faceless hood on I drove to the party wearing the smock (but not the hood as its face is meshing and difficult to see out of (impossible to see into so "faceless"). On thw way I got lost and couldn't find my friends address but I came across a large funfair and was able to flag down 2 local Police officers to get directions. No problem with this, but my wife later found it hillarious that I had approached and questioned 2 policemen as the grim reaper.

My life gets more like that of Victor Meldrew every day.

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As HD & Steve say St Maries this was in the triangle of land as described, the one accross the road was Duchess Rd School, in later years when my brother went there the entrance was on the corner of Shoreham St.

But as Steve says there was a second St Maries, the discovery of this has solved a long standing mystery

But not yet the mystery of where exactly that coal hole is.

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When built in 1878, the school was warmed and ventilated by 'Haden's System'

According to Wikiwhatsits Haden specialised in warm air heating systems. If they were as efficient as the system fitted in a bungalow we bought a few years ago, then the lads must have had to run on the spot in winter to keep warm. It lasted about a month before we had it ripped out and replaced with a wet system. HD

George Haden is a well known and well documented Victorian engineer.

His expertise was with steam engines (the stationary types used to power factories), woolen mills (the sort you get in west Yorkshire) and warm air heating systems (the sort currently being discussed)

The heating system which bears his name was a good system and was installed in many large public and administrative buildings, most notably the Houses of Parliament.

I don't know the technical details of his system but given his background in steam I suspect it was an early form of what we would call "central heating". Burn coal to boil water and then pump the hot water through a network of pipes and metal radiators within the building.

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But not yet the mystery of where exactly that coal hole is.

The St. Marie's House was at number 7 Edmund Road, not Clough Road that I quoted in error.

The coal hole is on Edmund Road but can only be seen as a rear view from Sheaf Gardens on Streetview.

I'll correct my previous post.

Sorry :wub:

HD

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George Haden is a well known and well documented Victorian engineer.

His expertise was with steam engines (the stationary types used to power factories), woolen mills (the sort you get in west Yorkshire) and warm air heating systems (the sort currently being discussed)

The heating system which bears his name was a good system and was installed in many large public and administrative buildings, most notably the Houses of Parliament.

I don't know the technical details of his system but given his background in steam I suspect it was an early form of what we would call "central heating". Burn coal to boil water and then pump the hot water through a network of pipes and metal radiators within the building.

I used to own a wonderful old textbook dating from the late Victorian era which had details of central heating systems of the time. Many of them seemed to use high pressure steam with radiators in covered boxes to prevent burns. There were few gravity circulation hot water systems mentioned.

The book also covered early electrical installations with hints on how to run wiring in redundant lead gas piping. It also instructed in the correct ways to go round corners with wooden "capping and casing", a lot of which was still around when I started out in the "sparks" game.

I loaned the book to my brother-in-law and it never came back. I can't ask him about it (well not without the aid of a medium), since he unfortunately passed away a couple of years ago.

HD

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Hi peeps

Has anyone used the 1911 census to find a location / house.

What info is available on the census?

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The St. Marie's House was at number 7 Edmund Road, not Clough Road that I quoted in error.

The coal hole is on Edmund Road but can only be seen as a rear view from Sheaf Gardens on Streetview.

I'll correct my previous post.

Sorry :wub:

HD

1911 Census..

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I was always led to understand that the HN stood for "Henry Duke of Norfolk"

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I was always led to understand that the HN stood for "Henry Duke of Norfolk"

Regarding which post or topic please ?

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For the Record my last one was the old midland bank now the bankers draft , however this one is still live:

You are right it is Sheffield & Hallamshire and it is a boundry marker

So what does the B stand for then ?

Could this be SHEFFIELD & HALLAM BIERLOW BOUNDARY

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think the 'B' on bus mans marker stands for 'Borough'

-Sheffield Hallamshire Borough-

to do with council constituency boundaries.

The 'W' on my marker could be 'Ward'

as in ward boundary.

East Ward or Ecclesall Ward B'dry ?

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This is not on a building but as near as dam it, but where?

Edited by SteveHB
post moved from Date Stones topic

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From THIS post in 2009

I noticed the gates were open and this long line of vans, so it looks as though something might be happening

A 4 year "Then and Now"

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Unless their presence there is something to do with the long low building seen in this view.

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From THIS post in 2009

I noticed the gates were open and this long line of vans, so it looks as though something might be happening

A 4 year "Then and Now"

attachicon.gifThen-now-Hole.jpg

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Unless their presence there is something to do with the long low building seen in this view.

attachicon.gifHole 2013.jpg

The "long low building" is part of the Goodwin Sports Centre complex..

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From THIS post in 2009

I noticed the gates were open and this long line of vans, so it looks as though something might be happening

A 4 year "Then and Now"

Proposed car park, with local objections .. The Star December 2012 - The proposal was withdrawn - Spring 2013..Greens celebrate victory at "Harcourt Hole" sheffieldgreenparty.org.uk

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It certainly has become a little oasis over the years that it has been left undeveloped.

I must say that it would be a shame to spoil it. If it is to be left as a natural site, I think they should create a couple of clear views so that people can appreciate it without having to enter the site.

View of the hole from the access road. (Can you spot the rebar sticking out of the ground)

Down the access road

Up the access road

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This is not on a building but as near as dam it, but where?

Can we have a clue please.

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attachicon.gifcity of sheff.jpg

Can we have a clue please.

Two Fat Ladies, Legs Eleven, Doctors Orders.

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Right its near a bingo place then :-)

That narrows it down

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Odeon, Flat Street ? Based on the 1958 date on the plaque.

HD

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Odeon, Flat Street ? Based on the 1958 date on the plaque.

HD

Spot on Hilldweller, I did clean it up somewhat, removed the weeds and brushed away nearly all the accumulated dirt with my little 1" brush I carry with me for such occasions. I bet people are not aware that if they have a fall that there may be a case they couldn't pursue

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This is my brother larking about with his wooden ladder when he should have been painting and decorating.

The picture was taken in 1963 but can anyone guess where it was taken?

There's a clue in the background.

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This is my brother larking about with his wooden ladder when he should have been painting and decorating.

The picture was taken in 1963 but can anyone guess where it was taken?

There's a clue in the background.

attachicon.gif1963 -.png

Top of Whitehouse Lane, Walkley?

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