RichardB Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 Shops in Sheffield which have been left empty while a recession-hit redevelopment project is on hold have been filled with works of art. BBC NEWS "Sheffield City Council said the art would be changed every month" And I wonder how long that's going to last? A rolling SheffieldHistory presentation (or several) would look good as one of those pieces of art ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 A rolling SheffieldHistory presentation (or several) would look good as one of those pieces of art ... Is this what the "big secret", discussed by you and Tsavo in Mrs Miggins pie shoppe? Is this why we are being asked to select the best images in each category of Sheffield History? If so they could do a lot worse than an exhibition of our best works, - where better to publically exhibit images of Sheffield History than in the middle of Sheffield, and whats more, the public exposure could get is even more members if we could say in the exhibition something like :- To see more historic pictures of Sheffield like these visit www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 OK, next question on recent developments in the City. Why has the University Arts tower been covered over with what appears to be (from a distance, - well Charlotte Road actually) a large white blanket? Is it part of a David Copperfield magic illusion where he makes the whole tower dissappear? If so I am sure we could suggest another "tower" in the City we would like him to make dissappear lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 OK, next question on recent developments in the City. Why has the University Arts tower been covered over with what appears to be (from a distance, - well Charlotte Road actually) a large white blanket? Is it part of a David Copperfield magic illusion where he makes the whole tower dissappear? If so I am sure we could suggest another "tower" in the City we would like him to make dissappear Looks strange don't it .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Looks strange don't it .. That's a good bit of advertising for us lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 That's a good bit of advertising for us Looks better at night time when It's lit up .. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Looks strange don't it .. So any ideas about whats going on with it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 So any ideas about whats going on with it then? This should explain. Tower Gears Up For Makeover .. www.skyscrapernews.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 This should explain. Tower Gears Up For Makeover .. www.skyscrapernews.com Thanks Steve, Nice to know that not all tall buildings in Sheffield more than 25 years old are due for demolition and it looks like they are going to put quite a lot of work (and money) into the university arts tower. Inside the arts tower facing each other are 2 sets of lifts. On the right is a conventional lift which is very fast. On the left are the Paternoster lifts, - this is a set of open fronted (no doors) step on, step off lifts on a continuous cycle, - one appears as the previous one moves away. By neccesity and for safety these lifts are much slower. I remember in the early 1970's "racing" in these lifts to see which one would get you to the top fastest as the ordinary lift is fast but you have to wait for it while the Paternoster lifts are slow but their is no waiting. We found that, the Paternoster lifts can get you to the top first if you jump on, go up one floor, run across and press the button for the conventional lift and then run back to jump into the next Paternoster. If you do this on every floor it causes the conventional lift to have to stop on every floor as if it was picking up passengers and so slows it down enough to beat it in the Paternoster. We also wondered what would happen if you didn't get off the Paternoster chain at the top, as the descending Paternosters were adjacent to the ascending. The answer was not a lot, - you just sort of got moved sideways and started to come down the other side! Its nice to know that in the refurbishment this nice unique lift feature is being retained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 City Centre Panorama, taken from the bottom of Pitsmoor Rd. Spans from South Quays across to Penistone Rd. There is much redevelopment obvious a long with some older locations What is there to be seen? 4 churches 7 tower blocks That's just a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gramps Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Too much verde green ?? <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Too much verde green ?? To much green is one of my pet hates, yes its good to live in Britain's greenest city, but look around when you travel about, trees and bushes grow unchecked in some places. I have mentioned this before. Try taking photo's around the city if it is not trees & bushes its pointless street furniture, remember the modern motorist can not cope with out being bombarded with instructions Rant over Yes Gramps to much green, this was a spur of the moment set of photos as I was passing. Under all the green was once a main railway line <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gramps Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Hi Stuart, I should have thanked you for a great panorama shot, - more of these would be welcome. There is a good vantage point up on Kirkedge road from where you can see almost the whole of the city. I wasn't moaning about the natural verdancy, which I find quite attractive in a city-scape; it's all the vert-de-gris that seems to be the height of architectural fashion these days - stands out like a sore thumb. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Hi Stuart, I should have thanked you for a great panorama shot, - more of these would be welcome. There is a good vantage point up on Kirkedge road from where you can see almost the whole of the city. I wasn't moaning about the natural verdancy, which I find quite attractive in a city-scape; it's all the vert-de-gris that seems to be the height of architectural fashion these days - stands out like a sore thumb. Verdigris is a natural form of copper carbonate which forms as a green (verd / verte) patina on copper objects when exposed to the elements. With the current high cost of copper I can't see it being a fashionable building material, - and that which is exposed and sticks out like a sore thumb wants covering up and hiding quick before someone comes and nicks it! :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THYLACINE Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Thanks Steve, Nice to know that not all tall buildings in Sheffield more than 25 years old are due for demolition and it looks like they are going to put quite a lot of work (and money) into the university arts tower. Inside the arts tower facing each other are 2 sets of lifts. On the right is a conventional lift which is very fast. On the left are the Paternoster lifts, - this is a set of open fronted (no doors) step on, step off lifts on a continuous cycle, - one appears as the previous one moves away. By neccesity and for safety these lifts are much slower. I remember in the early 1970's "racing" in these lifts to see which one would get you to the top fastest as the ordinary lift is fast but you have to wait for it while the Paternoster lifts are slow but their is no waiting. We found that, the Paternoster lifts can get you to the top first if you jump on, go up one floor, run across and press the button for the conventional lift and then run back to jump into the next Paternoster. If you do this on every floor it causes the conventional lift to have to stop on every floor as if it was picking up passengers and so slows it down enough to beat it in the Paternoster. We also wondered what would happen if you didn't get off the Paternoster chain at the top, as the descending Paternosters were adjacent to the ascending. The answer was not a lot, - you just sort of got moved sideways and started to come down the other side! Its nice to know that in the refurbishment this nice unique lift feature is being retained. I remember the first time I saw the Paternoster lift in the Arts Tower, I would have been 15 or 16 then and I was mesmerised by it. In one of the compartments(?) there were 2 young Uni students sitting in the corners with their books spread out before them, studying and writing notes and essays and they permanently occupied this part of the lift. They spent all day going round and round. My brother said they were professional paternoster travellers and the constant motion of the lift helped them to study. It was the sixties! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gramps Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Verdigris is a natural form of copper carbonate which forms as a green (verd / verte) patina on copper objects when exposed to the elements. Yes I did know that but thank you anyway. AFAIK the only building with genuine copper cladding is the New Commons, but in Stuart's panorama there seem also to be quite a few other buildings with Greek green colored panels and they clash horribly with both the natural greenery and the other surrounding buildings. That's really all I was commenting on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Yes I did know that but thank you anyway. AFAIK the only building with genuine copper cladding is the New Commons, but in Stuart's panorama there seem also to be quite a few other buildings with Greek green colored panels and they clash horribly with both the natural greenery and the other surrounding buildings. That's really all I was commenting on. Not saying it's a fact but the copper could well be either a Council policy or a particular planning officer's preference. I had a small hand in helping my friend to build his newsagent kiosk at the bottom of The Moor. They insisted on copper for the roof then. My friend wanted to have it coated to keep it shiny but they wouldn't allow it. It's also worth having a dig at them with this:- They insisted on him using a particular brick, because they wanted the brickwork to match that used for the Planters etc. at the bottom of The Moor. They were extremely expensive, especially as there are quite a few "cants" involved. He found an almost identical but considerably cheaper option but they turned that down. Not too long after making him spend all the extra money on his building they re-did The Moor and got rid of all the brickwork they forced him to match up to. That was a long time ago. He sold the kiosk about 10 years ago. Anybody know if it's still there? I think it's probably been demolished by now. I've been trying to find a photo but I've not come up with anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Anybody know if it's still there? I think it's probably been demolished by now. I've been trying to find a photo but I've not come up with anything. It was still there a couple weeks ago, but things are happining so fast around the Moorfoot it could have gone now! It can be seen in the center background of this pictureshrffield photo. This photo taken in Oct:2008 by 'mickjj' is from post #35 of this topic, it shows the kiosk on the L/H side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Brings back memories of misty early mornings trying to get some building done before starting proper work. It was a nightmare working out all the joints in the timbers at the top of the odd shaped roof. I don't know if Pete took any photos while it was under construction. I'll ask when I see him. The colour picture above shows the very expensive bricks which, as you can see, no longer have anything else to match up to. I have another story about the Moor precinct which I'll post at a later date when I've got the facts "as I remember them" fixed in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Not saying it's a fact but the copper could well be either a Council policy or a particular planning officer's preference. I had a small hand in helping my friend to build his newsagent kiosk at the bottom of The Moor. They insisted on copper for the roof then. My friend wanted to have it coated to keep it shiny but they wouldn't allow it. So Sheffield, a city noted for its production of STEEL (an alloy consisting mainly of the metal IRON), has to have roofs made of COPPER!! Wheres the logic in that? However I must admit that the verdigris colour of weathered copper looks better than rust ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I've not been up here for years so imagine my surprise to see this. Off Woodland Road, bottom of Harvey Clough Rd. I know that Woodland Road has been joined up with Lees hall Rd for years but there's now a brand new bridge over the stream and woodland. It leads to this new building. Newfield with Talbot Specialist School. The Bridge is roughly where I've marked in blue and the Building X New building and the view back towards Woodland Road. The main contractors on site at the moment (judging by the number of their vehicles that are there) seem to be Bethel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Looks strange don't it .. Closer view of the Arts Tower The Sheffield History logo seems to have gone :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Closer view of the Arts Tower The Sheffield History logo seems to have gone A different viewpoint as well, you have almost "then & nowed" that other 1974 picture I took of the tower and posted in the university tower thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest plain talker Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I thought the artist Christo had been around the Arts Tower! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Not saying it's a fact but the copper could well be either a Council policy or a particular planning officer's preference. I had a small hand in helping my friend to build his newsagent kiosk at the bottom of The Moor. They insisted on copper for the roof then. My friend wanted to have it coated to keep it shiny but they wouldn't allow it. It's also worth having a dig at them with this:- They insisted on him using a particular brick, because they wanted the brickwork to match that used for the Planters etc. at the bottom of The Moor. They were extremely expensive, especially as there are quite a few "cants" involved. He found an almost identical but considerably cheaper option but they turned that down. Not too long after making him spend all the extra money on his building they re-did The Moor and got rid of all the brickwork they forced him to match up to. That was a long time ago. He sold the kiosk about 10 years ago. Anybody know if it's still there? I think it's probably been demolished by now. I've been trying to find a photo but I've not come up with anything. A couple of photo's for VOX taken today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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