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Just to add to the general confusion, here's breaking news from 1854

Golden Ball, Mrs Eliza Hitchen, 85 Campo Lane

AND Golden Ball, Mrs Elizabeth Hitchen, 6 Townhead Street

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Ner,

SHEFFIELD GAZETTER 1852

ELIZABETH HITCHEN VICTUALER GOLDEN BALL

SHEFFIELD DIRECTORY1856

ELIZABETH HITCHEN VICTUALER GOLDEN BALL

1859 AND 1862 AS ELIZA HITCHEN VICTUALER GOLDEN BALL

1861--6 TOWNHEAD STREET -3476-81

ELIZA HITCHEN 45 WIDOW--PUBLICAN

HARRIET 18 DAU --BARMAID

MARY H? 12 ---------------------------

THOMAS16-SON--IVORY &PEARL CUTLER

PLUS

JULIA CUMMINGS 20 SERVANT BORN IRELAND

JOHN MC HUGH 30 BORDER BOOT & SHOE MAKER BORN IRELAND

1863

GOLDEN BALL 85 CAMPO LANE -85 is missing off census returns

RICHARD GREGORY

ELECTORAL ROLL

THOMAS HITCHEN 1870-71 85 CAMPO LANE

1871--4676-72B 6 TOWNHEAD STREET& 85 CAMPO LANE- 85 is missing off census returns

THOMAS HITCHEN26 PUBLICAN

ANNIE 24 WIFE--

HENRIETTA 15 SISTER--

Elizabeth Thickett 19 serv b Grantham --Thomas Barlow 64 b Sheffield boarder watchman

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Indeed lol

Anthony Pass STEVENS Vict. Golden Ball 49 Campo Lane Baine's 1822

Hannah MARSHALL Taverns & Public Houses (Golden Ball) Townhead Street Pigot's 1828-9

Antipas STEVEN Taverns & Public Houses (Golden Ball) 49 Campo Lane Pigot's 1828-9

Benjamin HUDSON vict. Golden Ball 31 Townhead Street White's 1833

Eliza HITCHEN Vict. Golden Ball 6 Townhead Street White's 1849

Elizabeth HITCHEN Vict. Golden Ball 6 Townhead Street White's 1852

Mrs Eliza HITCHEN Golden Ball 85 Campo Lane 1854

Mrs Elizabeth Hitchen Golden Ball 6 Townhead Street 1854

Elizabeth HITCHEN Vict. Golden Ball Sheffield Directory 1856, 1859, 1862

Richard Gregory Vict. Golden Ball 85 Campo Lane 1863

Thomas HITCHEN 85 CAMPO LANE Electoral Roll 1870-71

Thomas HITCHEN 26, Publican 6 TOWNHEAD STREET& 85 CAMPO 1871

(Aside Thomas HITCHEN Vict. Grey Horse 25 Stoke Street 1893)

John NOLAN vict. Golden Ball 10 Townhead Street & Campo Lane White's 1911

Mrs Ada CARTER Vict. Golden Ball 10 Townhead Street & Campo Lane White's 1919

Mrs Ada CARTER Vict. Golden Ball 10 Townhead Street Kelly's 1925

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Must have been strong beer, :blink:

"1848",2654,"G44","18/04/1848",,"Charles","HITCHEN","30","Licensed Victualler","Townhead Street","Delirium Tremens"

and an aside,

1841

MARY HITCHEN 46 INN KEEPER Wid of Thomas

ANN 17

CHARLES 24 EDGE TOOL MKR

ELIZA 24 Eizabeth nee Hoyland

MARY 1

ALL LIVING AT CHARLES ST (BARRELL)

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If you squint, and have the "True Faith" of a Pub-hunter you can make out the Golden Ball on this photo, at the right hand side. It appears to have a Church tower, but that is just St James trying to hide ! Picture taken circa 1895. The tall gable end (Centre) is part of the Burns Public House.

The buildings lower down the hill on the left were part of The Crofts, demolished 1898. Townhead Street flats replaced these buildings; the rents were high for the people that used to live here (3/- to 6/- per week) - the very young, Do we have young here ? - better ask how much that is in modern money !!!

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/pi...ff.refno=y00595

Interior of the pub (1937-ish), left Tom Ward (Barman), right Mr T. W. Brookes (Landlord)

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/pi...ff.refno=s07031

Tom Ward did become Landlord, year unknown :

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/pi...ff.refno=s09419

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The tall gable end (Centre) is part of the Burns Public House.

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/pi...ff.refno=y00595

Joshua Burns, Burns Tavern, 10 Townhead Street 1871

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Joshua Burns, Burns Tavern, 10 Townhead Street 1871

1871 census

10 Townhead Street Joshua Shaw age 54 Table Blade Forger

6 Townhead Street Thomas Hitchen age 26 Publican

1872-3 ELECTORAL ROLL

THOMAS HITCHEN 69 CAMPO LANE

and to add to the confusion,

1879 DIR.

St James Church Rev. James Battersby

6 Townhead Street Thomas Shaw- Victualler

Campo Lane

8 Townhead Street Charles Oxspring -furniture dealer

School Croft

10 Townhead Street William Foxton- Victualler

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Neddy, does any of this thread make any sense to you, at all ?

To me, it's 14 Pubs at various addresses all with the same name, actual Street address adjusted to suit< I was just pleased to pick one out on an old photo. Seem to remember one in the 70's, modern, 'orrible...

Still confused !

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Neddy, does any of this thread make any sense to you, at all ?

To me, it's 14 Pubs at various addresses all with the same name, actual Street address adjusted to suit< I was just pleased to pick one out on an old photo. Seem to remember one in the 70's, modern, 'orrible...

Still confused !

I've been following the Hitchen family, and everything about them has been a struggle

there were only a few in Sheffield and most were missed off census, they are on the wife's side

I think the address thing for 6 Townhead --10 Townhead may have come about from the widening

of Campo Lane,

to add to the confusion is the Golden ball having an address on Campo Lane, and Townhead Street, corner plot,

looks like the enumerator took the pub residents and forgot the living quarters next door

Even the address for

1872-3 ELECTORAL ROLL

THOMAS HITCHEN 69 CAMPO LANE is missing from census

as another aside Thomas Hitchen took the Grey Horse when the address was Blast Lane, later Stoke Street :rolleyes:

Then from information from andyc on this site moved back to 26 Campo Lane, THE BALL

and you think you are confused. lol

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Let's just post it as "Balls to Campo Lane" eh ?

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Let's just post it as "Balls to Campo Lane" eh ?

Agreed lol

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If you squint, and have the "True Faith" of a Pub-hunter you can make out the Golden Ball on this photo, at the right hand side. It appears to have a Church tower, but that is just St James trying to hide ! Picture taken circa 1895. The tall gable end (Centre) is part of the Burns Public House.

The buildings lower down the hill on the left were part of The Crofts, demolished 1898. Townhead Street flats replaced these buildings; the rents were high for the people that used to live here (3/- to 6/- per week) - the very young, Do we have young here ? - better ask how much that is in modern money !!!

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/pi...ff.refno=y00595

Interior of the pub (1937-ish), left Tom Ward (Barman), right Mr T. W. Brookes (Landlord)

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/pi...ff.refno=s07031

Tom Ward did become Landlord, year unknown :

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/pi...ff.refno=s09419

I was looking for a Picture of Golden Ball,had posted under 86 Townhead Street, wouldnt have pic of other side of street by any chance as that is where 86 would have been ? Harve

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1881, Thomas Shaw (69 Campo Lane & 6 Townhead Street)

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Anyone remember the "Shrimp Man" coming in with his basket full of individual servings of seafood

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From Directory & Topography of Sheffield, 1862

Shaw Joshua, vict., Burns Tavern, 10, Townhead Street.

Are the Burns Tavern and the Golden Ball one and the same?

Joshua was my Great, Great, Great Grandfather, interestingly on all census returns, he puts himself down as a cutler and not an inn keeper. His daughter Mary Ann Atkin went on to keep the Victoria Inn on St.Philips Road and his son William kept the Rawsons Arms Hotel on Tenter Street and another 653-657 London Road.

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From Directory & Topography of Sheffield, 1862

Shaw Joshua, vict., Burns Tavern, 10, Townhead Street.

Are the Burns Tavern and the Golden Ball one and the same?

Joshua was my Great, Great, Great Grandfather, interestingly on all census returns, he puts himself down as a cutler and not an inn keeper. His daughter Mary Ann Atkin went on to keep the Victoria Inn on St.Philips Road and his son William kept the Rawsons Arms Hotel on Tenter Street and another 653-657 London Road.

Welcome to the Site; that is a difficult question !

Bear with me; will try to post something tomorrow and we can all try to "unpick" the answer.

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Welcome to the Site; that is a difficult question !

Bear with me; will try to post something tomorrow and we can all try to "unpick" the answer.

Right, all join in : obvious duplicates between Hitchen, Hudson and Nolan - but can you decide how many, where and when ?

(A puzzle for when its raining)

Ball 28 Townhead Street 1820 1900 80 years

1818-20 Hannah Marshall (Campo Lane)

1821 Hannah Marshall (Campo Lane)

1822 Hannah Marshall

1825 Hannah Marshall/Henry Marshall

1828 Hannah Marshall

1834 Benjamin Hudson

1846 Benjamin Hudson (with the implication that Benjamin Hudson had the place in 1837, 1841 and 1845)

Ball 26 Campo Lane 1820 formerly The Golden Ball, 1849 address 18 Campo Lane, 1856 13 Campo Lane. Sold Bentley's Rotherham Ales

1818-20 Antepast Stevens

1821 Antepast Stevens

1822 Antepast Stevens

1825 Antipas Stephens

1828 Antipas Stevens (died 24th Sep 1840, aged 63)

1833 I. Marshall (48 Campo Lane)

1834 Joseph Taylor (48 Campo Lane)

1837 Jarvis Turner (48 Campo Lane)

1845 Henry Platts (13 Campo Lane)

1846 Henry Platts (13 Campo Lane)

1849 Henry Platts

1852 George Smith (13 Campo Lane)

1854 George Smith (13 Campo Lane)

1856 George Smith (13 Campo Lane)

1857 George Smith (13 Campo Lane)

1861 George Smith (13 Campo Lane)

1862 George Smith (13 Campo Lane)

1864 George Smith

1871 George Smith

1881 Joseph White

1893 Joseph Stead

1901 Thomas Hitchen

1905 Thomas Hitchen

1911 Thomas Morgan

Burn's Head Tavern 10 Townhead Street 1825 1900 75 became The Canterbury Inn

1828 John Cooke

1829 John Cooke

1833 Thomas Marsden (29 Townhead Street)

1837 William Harrison (20 Townhead Street)

1845 J. Wood

1846 George Wood

1849 W Green

1852 Thomas Rawson

1854 Henry Kitson

1856 Henry Kitson

1862 Joshua Shaw

1864 Joshua Shaw

1871 Joshua Shaw

1881 Mark Bryars

Golden Ball 6 Campo Lane 1822 186 1822 address 49 Campo Lane; rebuilt after 1900, resited

1822 Anthony Pass Stephens (49 Campo Lane)

1825 Anthony Pass Stephens

1828 Anthony Pass Stephens

1829 Anthony Pass Stephens

1833 Benjamin Hudson

1849 Eliza Hitchen

1851 Eliza Hitchen

1852 Eliza Hitchen

1854 Mrs Eliza Hitchen

1863 Richard Gregory

1871 Thomas Hitchen

1881 Thomas Shaw (69 Campo Lane & 6 Townhead Street)

1901 John Nolan (4 Townhead Street and Campo Lane)

Golden Ball Townhead Street 1828

1828 Hannah Marshall

1829 Hannah Marshall

1833 Benjamin Hudson

1834 Benjamin Hudson

1837 B Hudson

1841 B Hudson

1845 Benjamin Hudson (6 Townhead Street)

1846 Benjamin Hudson (6 Townhead Street)

1852 Elizabeth Hitchen (6 Townhead Street)

1854 Mrs Eliza Hitchen

1856 Elizabeth Hitchen

1857 Elizabeth Hitchen

1861 Elizabeth Hitchen

1862 Eliza Hitchen

1864 ? Hitchen

1871 Thomas Hitchen

1879 Thomas Hitchen

1881 Thomas Hitchen

1905 John Nolan (10 Townhead Street & Campo Lane)

1911 John Nolan (10 Townhead Street & Campo Lane)

1919 Mrs Ada Carter

1925 Mrs Ada Carter

1948 James William Marriott (10 Townhead Street)

1951 Louis Butterworth

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Some images to help :

1890's Campo Lane, junction with Paradise Street, Paradise Inn on corner (later became Campo Chambers), left, Ball Inn in background

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/pi...ff.refno=s02187

[i think the Ball is in the middle and the Burn's the one with the prominent chimneys - RichardB]

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1910's Campo Lane, No 26, Ball Inn on left

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/pi...ff.refno=s14072

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1920's Campo Lane, No 30, Campo Chambers (former Paradise Inn), No 26, Ball Inn

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/pi...ff.refno=s14073

(appears to have 2 Sycamore Street written on the front ??)

also http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/pi...ff.refno=s14074

Building next door has a sign Moved to 98 West Street, so both buildings about to be demolished; the one next to the boozer has gone

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Anyone remember the "Shrimp Man" coming in with his basket full of individual servings of seafood

Just been reading all the info' on the Golden Ball and yes, I remember the Shrimp Man. I think he also went to the pub on Church Street, The Stonehouse. I can honestly say that I was never once ill after eating his food lol

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Welcome to the Site; that is a difficult question !

Bear with me; will try to post something tomorrow and we can all try to "unpick" the answer.

Joshua Shaw is also my g.g.g.grandfather. In 1851 when he lived at 3 Sims Croft, although he put his occupation as table blade maker, he ran a beer house from the premises.

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Just to add to the general confusion, here's breaking news from 1854

Golden Ball, Mrs Eliza Hitchen, 85 Campo Lane

AND Golden Ball, Mrs Elizabeth Hitchen, 6 Townhead Street

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s14072

Would anyone know who the man and the little boy are in the photo , standing out side the Ball,or Golden Ball in 1911 on Campo lane,My Gt uncle John Nolan kept it at that time,and had a son Billy aged about 9or10,i wondered if it might be them.

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http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s14072

Would anyone know who the man and the little boy are in the photo , standing out side the Ball,or Golden Ball in 1911 on Campo lane,My Gt uncle John Nolan kept it at that time,and had a son Billy aged about 9or10,i wondered if it might be them.

The picture is "The Ball", The Golden Ball is on the other side of Campo.

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The picture is "The Ball", The Golden Ball is on the other side of Campo.

Here in the A - Z,

confusing

Golden Ball, 6 Campo Lane.

Ball, 26 Campo Lane.

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Golden Ball, Campo Lane & 4 & 10 Townhead Street.

1901 John Nolan

1902 John Nolan

1903 John Nolan

1905 John Nolan (10 Townhead Street & Campo Lane)

1907 John Nolan

1910 John Nolan

1911 John Nolan (10 Townhead Street & Campo Lane)

1912 John Nolan

1913 John Nolan

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The 1903 map layout is very similar to the 1954 OS maps.

Ball (approximate) and Golden Ball marked.

Edited by SteveHB
map updated

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Here in the A - Z,

confusing

Golden Ball, 6 Campo Lane.

Ball, 26 Campo Lane.

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Golden Ball, Campo Lane & 4 & 10 Townhead Street.

1901 John Nolan

1902 John Nolan

1903 John Nolan

1905 John Nolan (10 Townhead Street & Campo Lane)

1907 John Nolan

1910 John Nolan

1911 John Nolan (10 Townhead Street & Campo Lane)

1912 John Nolan

1913 John Nolan

Even more confusing Pigotts 1829 dir.

Golden Ball, Hannah Marshall, Townhead street

Golden Ball, Antipas Stevens, 49 Campo lane

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