Seventeen pints and a pickled egg

[RichardB]

Right, you've had a pint in the Moseleys and you leave the building. With your back to the pub (to hold you up), you turn left and walk 20 or so yards (towards Scotland Steet). On your left, facing towards the Fire Service Museum is an old building.

What was this building ? Any history ?

(How vague a question is that ?)

A picture would be nice if anyone is passing, good for a Sunday morning walk maybe. Thanks in advance.

[RichardB]

This should be in the "A Quite Difficult Question" thread ....

buffoon !

[Guest skeets]

Right, you've had a pint in the Moseleys and you leave the building. With your back to the pub (to hold you up), you turn left and walk 20 or so yards (towards Scotland Steet). On your left, facing towards the Fire Service Museum is an old building.

What was this building ? Any history ?

(How vague a question is that ?)

A picture would be nice if anyone is passing, good for a Sunday morning walk maybe. Thanks in advance.

RichardB HI Think you may be referring to the building that was turned into small luxury flats, when i first new it, it was an hostel for men i beleive it was a bob a night,this was 1942 when one of our brickie's was dossing there, yrs later it was Lacey's a warehouse i thimk it's been other things too thereused to be iron railings at the front

[RichardB]

I remember it as a warehouse/store, 70's-early 80's, didn't know about the Hostel or the railings, so RESULT.

And backwards in time we must go, there is more to find !

[syrup]

Right, you've had a pint in the Moseleys and you leave the building. With your back to the pub (to hold you up), you turn left and walk 20 or so yards (towards Scotland Steet). On your left, facing towards the Fire Service Museum is an old building.

What was this building ? Any history ?

(How vague a question is that ?)

A picture would be nice if anyone is passing, good for a Sunday morning walk maybe. Thanks in advance.

Hi RichardB

If you check this link you might find the topic is fully covered.

http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/i...ic=1810&hl=

[RichardB]

Hi RichardB

If you check this link you might find the topic is fully covered.

http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/i...ic=1810&hl=

It's not that building, literally 20 yards from the Moseleys, same corner .... small building ...

[RichardB]

To the right of the pub, barely on this picture ...

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/pi...ff.refno=s21451

[neddy]

West Bar 1948

81-83 Mosley's Arms-Peter Tebay

85 Wilkinson Percy J -Printer

87-89 Weslyan Reform Union Church House -rev W.H.Jones

Mosley Lane

Silver Street

91-93 Newman J & Son Ltd. -Plumbers

West Bar Green

[RichardB]

87-89 Weslyan Reform Union Church House -rev W.H.Jones

That's the fella ...

Thanks Neddy

Any more on it, dates etc ?

[neddy]

That's the fella ...

Thanks Neddy

Any more on it, dates etc ?

1925

87-89 Dixon Henry-Wholsale Confectioner

[RichardB]

http://www.rushdenmission.co.uk/wruhist.htm

Extract :

A Brief History of The Wesleyan Reform Union.

Since 1849, Wesleyan Reformers have maintained their witness as a separate body among, Free churches. "Wesleyan Reformers" who date their origin from the unhappy experiences of 1849, when expulsions and secessions from Wesleyan Methodism followed a long period of agitation for reform, had their roots deep in Methodist soil. From it they drew their missionary urge and evangelical zeal, in the proclaiming of the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Taking fresh root when the separation came, they have now, for almost one hundred and fifty years, maintained their own distinctive witness. The point of difference with Wesleyan Methodism was that of church polity, an autonomous form of government being desired in which each church has the right of administering its own affairs.

There are three names that will ever be linked with the agitation for reform, Revs. J Everett, S Dunn and W Griffiths. Because of the agitation, the three ministers, and many others, seceded or were expelled from Wesleyan Methodism. Many churches, and in some areas whole circuits, showed their sympathy and banded themselves together to form a new Connexion.

The official Headquarters of the Union was first centred in London, later in Doncaster, and subsequently established in Sheffield, where the Union now occupies a modern building, providing offices, boardroom and book room.

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New Connexion = Scotland Street building ??

[Guest purplejumper]

http://www.rushdenmission.co.uk/wruhist.htm

Extract :

A Brief History of The Wesleyan Reform Union.

Since 1849, Wesleyan Reformers have maintained their witness as a separate body among, Free churches. "Wesleyan Reformers" who date their origin from the unhappy experiences of 1849, when expulsions and secessions from Wesleyan Methodism followed a long period of agitation for reform, had their roots deep in Methodist soil. From it they drew their missionary urge and evangelical zeal, in the proclaiming of the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Taking fresh root when the separation came, they have now, for almost one hundred and fifty years, maintained their own distinctive witness. The point of difference with Wesleyan Methodism was that of church polity, an autonomous form of government being desired in which each church has the right of administering its own affairs.

There are three names that will ever be linked with the agitation for reform, Revs. J Everett, S Dunn and W Griffiths. Because of the agitation, the three ministers, and many others, seceded or were expelled from Wesleyan Methodism. Many churches, and in some areas whole circuits, showed their sympathy and banded themselves together to form a new Connexion.

The official Headquarters of the Union was first centred in London, later in Doncaster, and subsequently established in Sheffield, where the Union now occupies a modern building, providing offices, boardroom and book room.

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New Connexion = Scotland Street building ??

Scotland Street was indeed a "Methodist New Connexion" chapel, but NOT a "Wesleyan Reform Union". They are two different animals.

New Connexion was started by Alexander Kilham in 1797 while he was a minister in Sheffield, using Scotland Street as his base. He died not long after.

Wesleyan Reform was started (as you say) in 1849 by, among others, James Everett, who also at one time was a minister in Sheffield. He wrote a book in 1822, "Methodism in Sheffield". He and his friends were thrown out in 1849 for writing some fairly unflattering things about the leaders of the Wesleyan Methodist Church in a series of so-called "fly-papers".

THe New Connexion (NC) eventually joined back with the United Methodist Free Churches (UMFC) in 1907 to form the United Methodist church (UM), which in turn joined the Wesleyans and the Prims in 1932 to form the present day Methodist Church. THe Wesleyan Reformers never joined back and remain a separate denomination!

Phew....

:blink:

[RichardB]

Scotland Street was indeed a "Methodist New Connexion" chapel, but NOT a "Wesleyan Reform Union". They are two different animals.

I try my best but, basically, I just know about Pubs lol