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Eggo, I wonder if I was "wasting time" at the Midland and Victoria stations at the same time as you? The peak of my train-spotting career ran from about 1960 to summer 1962 (after which I left Sheffield).

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Picture 1 is the approach to the station taken in 1937.  2 is the top end from 1948 and picture 3. Picture 4 shows the turntable also 1948   By the way the

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By comparison with the Midland the Vic had a ticket area which was spacious and quite modern...unlike the former which always seemed as if "run down" was the norm...perhaps that because it was once a

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Almost certainly. Although I started my train spotting days about 1954 then moved on to taking photographs of anything railway.

My first attraction was the Midland station, Jubilees, Black Fives, Compounds and 2Ps, usually double heading The Waverley.Thames Clyde. Devonian, and other numerous trains.

I then discovered the Vic, with its faint smell of fish, usually vans from Grimsby, parked at the East end of platform 1. A calm prevailed at the Vic, that was far from the frentic Midland, with its almost none stop traffic, passenger and goods.

The highight was the boat train, Harwich Parkstone Quay to Liverpool. Steam to Sheffield Vic,electric to Guide bridge and back to steam for the last leg to Liverpool.

In the early days it was usually a B17, from Harwich to Sheffield. The regular engines were, 61641 Gayton Hall. 61620 Clumber. 61621 Hatfield House. 61646 Gilwell Park, and then on the 16th of September 1958 I did a double take when Britannia 70000 rolled in with the boat train, and from then on it was all Britannia,s. On the 22nd September,70009 Alfred the Great,23rd September 70030 William Wordworth, a pause with B1 61249 Fitzherbert Wright the 26th September, then back to the Britannia's with 70005 John Milton 70011Hotspur 70036 Boadicea 70006 Robert Burns, and so it went on until diesel replaced steam, then the closure of Victoria with the service diverted to the Midland station.

A interesting fact about this train was that the Restaurant car and a dining coach were taken off the train at Sheffield by the train engine and then reversed in to the West end of No 1 platform, which ran at the side of the footpath to the lift, and steps down to the Wicker.

On the return journey to Harwich, they were then added to the train by the  engine that had spent the day at Darnall MPD (41A) before returning with the boat train to Harwich.

I distinctly remember the restaurant car staff on the west bound train, sending the dirty linen and pots from the restaurant car down a wooden shoot in to the Victoria Hotel, the shoot passed over the path to the Wicker steps. Does anyone remember this? I have asked several local Sheffield railway experts and no one can recall it.

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Happy memories....I was a spotter at the Vic and Midland from the early to the mid 50s...and then went with my son to the old Midland and watched . just as excitedly as a class 24 or 25 or even a 40 came through. Class 50s and the Deltics were as rare as rocking horse muck... just as had been so many of the Pacifics ( apart from a few class A3.s...which, for a while, regularly worked the Master Cutler.

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Thanks for those memories. I do recall the Britannias hauling the boat train (from memory, the coaches bore destination boards for "Harwich Parkeston Quay").

The only 4-4-0 compound I saw in Sheffield was the preserved no. 1000. My Dad took me down to the Mid. to see it pulling a special train. I would guess 1961 - ish. It was immaculate, a splendid sight. I';m sure that if I go through his old colour slides I'll find the photos which he took with his new Voigtlander camera of which he was very proud.

One of the two stations, or possibly both, always had several wicker hampers of homing pigeons on one of the platforms, presumably awaiting transport to far-away places so that they could fly back again.

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On ‎25‎/‎12‎/‎2016 at 08:49, Athy said:

Thanks for those memories. I do recall the Britannias hauling the boat train (from memory, the coaches bore destination boards for "Harwich Parkeston Quay").

The only 4-4-0 compound I saw in Sheffield was the preserved no. 1000. My Dad took me down to the Mid. to see it pulling a special train. I would guess 1961 - ish. It was immaculate, a splendid sight. I';m sure that if I go through his old colour slides I'll find the photos which he took with his new Voigtlander camera of which he was very proud.

One of the two stations, or possibly both, always had several wicker hampers of homing pigeons on one of the platforms, presumably awaiting transport to far-away places so that they could fly back again.

There used to be a 4-4-0 that worked the Hope valley trains and was kept at Millhouses sheds in the 1950's. I don't know if it was compound though. I was never a number taker just liked looking at trains and even sneaking into Millhouses sheds at times down the path from Archer Road that ran at the back of Guylees original factory.

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There were a number of compounds in regular use in the early 1950s as well as the inside cylinder Midland 4-4-0.s. Toward the end of their life one was "laid" up in one of the short bay platforms ...for weeks. I think when the Vic saw an A3 ( Royal Lancer, Sir Frederick Banbury and Flying Scotsman to name but three from memory) on the Master Cutler was the highlight of the day...but you needed to be there early in a morning or around 10pm at night. I lived near Darnall and regularly stood on Acres Hill footbridge awaiting, with bated, breath, its arrival.

The only Brit I ever saw was 70000 itself when, almost brand new, it hauled a special from London with dignitaries...went down to Darnall to coal up and then made the return to Marylebone. By the time they became common, I had found other time consuming interests.

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Thanks for those photos, Sheffield History and Gordon.

Loco D0280 is a new one on me - I don't remember that class at all. Was it perhaps a prototype?

 

EDIT: just looked at my old Ian Allan combined volume and found that I had seen this loco! I had written it in, as it wasn't included in their listings. It was the 'Falcon' which, from memory, was a prototype built by Brush in Loughborough. I wonder if I saw it at Vic too. I find that I have also added loco DP2 to my "combine" - internet research shows that this was a similar engine, but built by English Electric.

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Great to see both photos, especially Falcon. The EM2 looks a bit careworn.

Falcon was indeed a prototype for a lightweight Type 4 diesel-electric loco, using the Maybach MD655 engine as used in the diesel-hydraulic Westerns. It spent some time based at Darnall and was a regular on the Master Cutler & the Sheffield Pullman in 1962. Alas, it was withdrawn in the mid 1970s and scrapped in 1976.

Much more about Falcon on the Class 47 website

 

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Thanks. The internet, which is always right, variously lists Falcon as a class 53 and a class 47! Also, I see that DP2, though I think built seeking the same contract, looked more like a Deltic.

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I never knew that the Falcon class 53 was in the Sheffield area!

It was built by Brush and remained in their property while undergoing "trials" with British Rail. It was faster than the 47 as it had a top speed of 100 as apposed to their 95. Though some were later modified to give them that speed. My 1975 edition of Ian Allan's, British Railways Diesel Locomotives shows a picture of it with a headcode of 9F61. Since the "9" shows that is was hauling a freight train that had no breaks, I doubt it would be doing 100 mph! So it has gone down since it's days of hauling the Master Cutler!

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Falcon was allocated to Darnall shed in about 1961 and worked both freight and passenger duties. It was eventually sold to British Rail in 1970 who operated it until the mid '70's. There was a proposal to preserve it, but allegedly a clause in the sale from Brush was that it could only be sold for scrap, so that's what happened in 1976.

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Worked at the Royal Vic for months upgrading fire doors etc, brilliant place, had some reyt laughs with the chambermaids, nothing too naughty mind, just good fun.

I was at the top of one those fire escapes making an intricate pattern for a strange piece of glass in the door...took me about two hours to get it just right, I just finished it when a mate stuck his head round the door, grabbed it & skimmed it into the river below...I could have killed him, so yeah, if you happen to read this Dougie you're still a twwaatt...made him make another one though..lol.

Oh yeah Dougie, still owe you for hiding my radio under the floor & letting me nail down all new floor boards, reyt good that one, I thought somebody had turned the sound down....Rod Stewart, Sailing, can you hear me, can you hear me....well no not very well from under the floor.

Good job it's 40 odd years ago...hehe

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Actually just in shillings and pence, as seemed to be the way with the railways until decimalisation came along.

At least the fares weren't so high that they could be sensibly quoted in guineas!

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I admit to having a bit of an obsession about the Royal Victoria Station. There's just something about it that looks magical to me from the walk up to the station, to the war memorial, to the steps down to the Wicker etc


Amazing place - wish it was still open

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By comparison with the Midland the Vic had a ticket area which was spacious and quite modern...unlike the former which always seemed as if "run down" was the norm...perhaps that because it was once a part of the "Long, Meandering and Slow Railway"!

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I was a bit earlier than you. I started in 1952 and it was almost out of my system around 4 or 5  years later when  my hormones kicked in....That said, I and my son, did a bit of "kopping" years later!

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