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Thomas WHITAKER victualler Truelove's Gutter Gales & Martin 1787

John HATFIELD victualler Truelove's Gutter Gales & Martin 1787

Isaac BIRKS butcher & victualler Truelove's Gutter Gales & Martin 1787

George BARNSLEY victualler Truelove's Gutter Gales & Martin 1787

and the obvious question ... where was Truelove's Gutter ? Where was it in modern day terms ?

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All old Sheffielders have been nurtured in the firm and unquestioning belief that the Castle Street of the present represents the Truelove's Gutter of the past. It has recently been suggested, as a deduction drawn from the order in which the streets were arranged for the rounds of the rate collectors of I790, that Truelove's Gutter was not Castle Street but Waingate. But there are certain peculiarities in the old rate books which prevent this from being regarded as by any means a sure guide; and the evidence that definitely proves what we now call Castle Street to have been Truelove's Gutter is overwhelming. The testimony of old street lists, old Directories and old inhabitants, no less than what is known of the residences of such well- known citizens as the Staniforths who lived in the same place both when it was called Truelove's Gutter and when it had been re-christened Castle Street, all make it impossible to admit any claim on behalf of Waingate to the name. That has always been Waingate, and nothing else.

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REMINISCENCES OF SHEFFIELD by R. E. LEADER

CHAPTER 08 - STREETS, SHOPS, WELLS, AND MARKETS

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This out of copyright material has been transcribed by Eric Youle, who has * * provided the transcription on condition that any further copying and * * distribution of the transcription is allowed only for noncommercial * * purposes, and includes this statement in its entirety. Any references to, * * or quotations from, this material should give credit to the original * * author(s) or editors. *

Take your pick, no one knows for sure.

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Thomas WHITAKER victualler Truelove's Gutter Gales & Martin 1787

John HATFIELD victualler Truelove's Gutter Gales & Martin 1787

Isaac BIRKS butcher & victualler Truelove's Gutter Gales & Martin 1787

George BARNSLEY victualler Truelove's Gutter Gales & Martin 1787

and the obvious question ... where was Truelove's Gutter ? Where was it in modern day terms ?

Hi RichardB

Will this help.

SEARCHESFAMILY TREESMAILING LISTSMESSAGE BOARDS

Sheffield Genealogy

Family & Social History

sorry forgot the link http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~e...streetnames.htm

September 25, 2007

The following are the street names which made up the original town of Sheffield around the 1770s.

Balm Green

Broad Lane

Bullstake

Burgess Street

Campo Lane

Castle Folds

Castle Green

Castle Head

Castle Hill

Church Lane Coal Pit Lane

Dixon Lane

Fargate

Figtree Lane

Hartshead

Hollis Croft

Irish Cross

Jehu Lane

Millsands

Newhall Street Norfolk Street

Pepper Alley

Priorgate

Pudding Lane

Ratten Row

Red Croft

Scargill Croft

Shude Hill

Snig Hill

The Isle The Ponds

The Underwater

Townhead Street

Truelove's Gutter

Waingate

Water Lane

West Bar

West Bar Green

Just a few of Sheffield streets which have been re-named

OLD NAME RENAMED Date included (if known)

Beast Market Bull Stake then Haymarket (1830)

Black Lamb Lane Jansen Street

Blind Lane Holly Street

Castle Folds Exchange Street

Change Alley Arundel Gate

Coal Pit Lane Cambridge Street (1850s)

Goose Green London Road

High Street Prior Gate then reverted back to High Street (part of)

New Thomas Street Denby Street (1890)

Pond Well Pond Hill

Pinson Lane Pinstone Street

Pudding Lane King Street (1700s)

Paradise Square was also known locally as Pot Square

Sembly Green Wicker

South Street The Moor (1922)

The Shambles Castle Square

Trueloves Gutter Castle Green Head then Castle Green

Under the Water Bridge Street (1800s)

Virgins Row / Walk West Parade then St James Row

Walkley Road Infirmary Road

Well Gate Townhead Street

Workhouse Lane Paradise Street

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Sorry to drag this from way back but a definitive answer appears in this paragraph

from

"A DESCRIPTION OF THE TOWN OF SHEFFIELD

in my remembrance wrote in the year 1832 at the time the

Cholera was raging in Sheffield.

BY JOSEPH WOOLHOUSE."

"Where the Town Hall stands was some old Houses, built with

no regularity, from this corner to the corner of Castle Green. Castle

Sreet was called True Love Gutter, but from what I can't tell."

To obtain the naming of the road a "Mr. R. E. Leader wrote the notes upon Woolhouse's

"description"

this from those notes "Truelove's Gutter took its name from a resident family named Truelove."

This out of copyright material has been transcribed by Eric Youle, who has *

* provided the transcription on condition that any further copying and *

* distribution of the transcription is allowed only for noncommercial *

* purposes, and includes this statement in its entirety. Any references to, *

* or quotations from, this material should give credit to the original *

* author(s) or editors.

I hope that sort of clears this up. Read the original it is really interesting.

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~exy..._circa_1800.txt

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Do we have the Gales and Martin 1787 on here ?

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Do we have the Glaes and Martin 1787 on here ?

I have it, just working out how to add it to "My" List.

We have it on here now !

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Gales and Martin 1787, alphabetical by Surname (little else there !)

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Roger Almond victualler Blind Lane

Almond victualler Townhead Cross

George Alsop victualler Ponds

Amory victualler High Street

John Ashmore victualler Park

George Barnsley victualler Truelove's Gutter

James Beard victualler Coalpit Lane

Samuel Beard victualler Furnace Lane

John Beardshaw victualler Holles Croft

John Beely victualler Smithfield

Jerimiah Beet victualler Norfolk Street

Benjamin Bell victualler Back Lane

Bell victualler Copper Street

Isaac Birks Victualler and butcher Truelove's Gutter

Abraham Birtles victualler Burgess Street

John Bland victualler Snig Hill

George Bower victualler Silver Street

Bright victualler Top Of Silver Street

Jonathan Broadhead victaller Bullstake

George Brookfield victualler Campo Lane

John Brookfield victualler Church Lane

John Broomhead victualler Park

William Bulhouse victualler Park

William Calack Victualler and butcher Campo Lane

Cam victualler Far Gate

Thomas Carr victualler Far Gate

John Castle victualler China Square

Thomas Chaloner victualler Park

Richard Coldwell victualler Westbar Green

William Colton victualler Hawley Croft

Richard Conyers victualler Carver Street

Richard Cooper victualler Snighill

Cornthwaite victualler Smithfield

Benjamin Crofts victualler Pond Lane

Henry Dam victualler Far Gate

Benjamin Darwin victualler Pond Lane

Daniel Derwent victualler Barkers Pool

Thomas Dewsbury victualler Coal Pit Lane

George Dore victualler Smithfield

Joseph Duckenfield victualler Burgess Street

Ellis victualler Bullstake

Joseph Epworth victualler Lambert Croft

Samuel Eyre victualler West Bar

John Fenton victualler Pea Croft

Michael Fisher victualler Hartshead

John Forward victualler Paradise Square

Samuel Fowler victualler Coalpit Lane

George Fox victualler Smithfield

Frankish victualler High Street

Joseph Gaiking victualler Bullstake

John Gill victualler Shude Hill

John Goodall Victualler and Bricklayer Queen Street

Goodall victualler Westbar

Samuel Goodlad victualler & musician Paradise Square

John Gray victualler Colston Croft

William Gray victualler Castle Fold

Edward Greaves victualler Holles Croft

John Greaves victualler High Street

John Green victualler West Bar Green

Matthew Green victualler Irish Cross

Samuel Green victualler & cook Paradise Square

John Hague victualler Coalpit Lane

Thomas Hague victualler Park

Thomas Hall victualler Burgess Street

Thomas Hall Victualler and Butcher Hartshead

James Hallam victualler, cutler Norfolk Street

Thomas Hardwick victualler Bullstake

Abraham Harpham victualler Red Croft

Joseph Hartley victualler Market Place

John Hatfield victualler Truelove's Gutter

John Hawke victualler Spring Street

George Hawley victualler Hawley Croft

Samuel Helifield victualler Grindle Gate

Joseph Henson victualler High Street

Heywood victualler Ratten Row

Peter Hinchcliffe victualler China Square

John Holland victualler Far Gate

James Holt victualler Coalpit Lane

Houlden victualler Gibralter

George Howson victualler, scissorsmith Blind Lane

Samuel Hoyland victualler, scissorsmith Blind Lane

Isaac Hydes victualler Snig Hill

John Inglesby victualler Park

Jeeves victualler Coalpit Lane

Paris Justice victualler, cutler Spring Street

Kinder victualler Market Place

John Kirkby victualler Sheffield Moor

Samuel Kirkby cutler & victualler Lambert Croft

Charles Law victualler Castle Fold

Peter Law victualler Church Lane

Robert Law victualler Water Lane

George Lindley victualler & scissorsmith Queen Street

Samuel Lister victualler Westbar

John Longden victualler Gregory Row

Thomas Longden victualler Hawley Croft

George Ludlam victualler Scotland Street

Machon victualler Pea Croft

Benjamin Mappin victualler Coalpit Lane

Joseph Marsh victualler Sheffield Moor

Thomas Marshall victualler Campo Lane

Mellor victualler Castle Green

Middleton victualler China Square

Benjamin Moore victualler Smithfield

Thomas Mozley victualler Ponds

David Naylor victualler Silver Street

Benjamin Newton victualler Bailey Field

Paul Oates victualler Far Gate

William Oldgate victualler Millsands

John Oldham victualler Far Gate

John Osguthorpe victualler Barker Pool

Paul Pass victualler Carver Street

George Pearson victualler Park

Potter victualler Barker Pool

William Potts victualler Colston Croft

John Ragg victualler Church Lane

James Richardson victualler High Street

Jonathan Roberts victualler Pea Croft

Robert Roebuck victualler Pea Croft

John Rofe victualler Church Lane

John Rogers victualler Westbar Green

James Ronksley victualler Westbar

Benjamin Rowley victualler Far Gate

Samuel Scott victualler Gibralter

Joseph Sergeant victualler Water Lane

John Shaw gardener & victualler Spring Street

John Sheldon victualler Pinston Lane

John Shepherd cutler & victualler Holles Croft

Samuel Shepley Victualler and butcher Market Place

Benjamin Shirt victualler Castle Green

Samuel Shirt victualler Silver Street

John Siddall victualler High Street

George Smith victualler Brinsworth's Orchard

Thomas Sorsby victualler Campo Lane

Wintington Sowter victualler Campo Lane

Stacey victualler Water Lane

William Staniforth victualler Lambert Croft

Edward Steel victualler Far Gate

Benjamin Sterndale victualler Far Gate

Suatt victualler Spring Street

Matthew Swinden cutler & victualler Holles Croft

Thomas Tarbottom cutler & victualler Scotland Street

Joseph Taylor victualler & musician Top Of Siver Street

Paul Taylor victualler & cutler Pond Lane

Margaret Teasdale victualler Coalpit Lane

Thomas Teasdale victualler Arundel Street

Thorpe victualler High Street

William Towler victualler Holles Croft

John Turner victualler Sheffield Moor

Turner victualler Church Lane

Aaron Tyas victualler Bottom Of White Croft

Alexander Vauce victualler Westbar Green

Wadsworth victualler Shude Hill

John Wainwright victualler Bailey Field

William Walker victualler Scotland Street

Ward scissorsmith & victualler Burgess Street

Thomas Whitaker victualler Truelove's Gutter

Stephen White victualler Gibralter

John Whitehead victualler Scotland Street

John Wild victualler Ratten Row

Jonathan Wild cutler & victualler Sims Croft

David Wilson victualler Top Of Silver Street

Joseph Wilson victualler Shude Hill

Joseph Wilson victualler Shude Hill

William Wilson victualler Pea Croft

Wing victualler Bottom Of Hawley Croft

Wooddall victualler Spring Street

Thomas Wright victualler Bullstake

Joseph Wroe victualler Brinsworth's Orchard

Enjoy

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RichardB wonders whether Dobberd and Neddy noticed that slight mistake-ette he he

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RichardB wonders whether Dobberd and Neddy noticed that slight mistake-ette he he

Saw mine and corrected,

I transcribed the names in the Gales and Martin back in 05,

just wondered if it was on here.

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It does appear to me that for 1787 read 1781. Is that perhaps to

what you refer or am I missing the blindingly obvious as usual. :blink:

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It does appear to me that for 1787 read 1781. Is that perhaps to

what you refer or am I missing the blindingly obvious as usual. :blink:

Nooooo, you're the 1781 man !!! I just posted all the 1787 ones and managed to miss off the first names - mind you, I did sort it out very quickly so no-one noticed that I'm an idiot ... :huh:

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