RichardB Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Thomas WHITAKER victualler Truelove's Gutter Gales & Martin 1787 John HATFIELD victualler Truelove's Gutter Gales & Martin 1787 Isaac BIRKS butcher & victualler Truelove's Gutter Gales & Martin 1787 George BARNSLEY victualler Truelove's Gutter Gales & Martin 1787 and the obvious question ... where was Truelove's Gutter ? Where was it in modern day terms ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tsavo Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 All old Sheffielders have been nurtured in the firm and unquestioning belief that the Castle Street of the present represents the Truelove's Gutter of the past. It has recently been suggested, as a deduction drawn from the order in which the streets were arranged for the rounds of the rate collectors of I790, that Truelove's Gutter was not Castle Street but Waingate. But there are certain peculiarities in the old rate books which prevent this from being regarded as by any means a sure guide; and the evidence that definitely proves what we now call Castle Street to have been Truelove's Gutter is overwhelming. The testimony of old street lists, old Directories and old inhabitants, no less than what is known of the residences of such well- known citizens as the Staniforths who lived in the same place both when it was called Truelove's Gutter and when it had been re-christened Castle Street, all make it impossible to admit any claim on behalf of Waingate to the name. That has always been Waingate, and nothing else. -------------------------------------- REMINISCENCES OF SHEFFIELD by R. E. LEADER CHAPTER 08 - STREETS, SHOPS, WELLS, AND MARKETS *********************** This out of copyright material has been transcribed by Eric Youle, who has * * provided the transcription on condition that any further copying and * * distribution of the transcription is allowed only for noncommercial * * purposes, and includes this statement in its entirety. Any references to, * * or quotations from, this material should give credit to the original * * author(s) or editors. * Take your pick, no one knows for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrup Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Thomas WHITAKER victualler Truelove's Gutter Gales & Martin 1787 John HATFIELD victualler Truelove's Gutter Gales & Martin 1787 Isaac BIRKS butcher & victualler Truelove's Gutter Gales & Martin 1787 George BARNSLEY victualler Truelove's Gutter Gales & Martin 1787 and the obvious question ... where was Truelove's Gutter ? Where was it in modern day terms ? Hi RichardB Will this help. SEARCHESFAMILY TREESMAILING LISTSMESSAGE BOARDS Sheffield Genealogy Family & Social History sorry forgot the link http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~e...streetnames.htm September 25, 2007 The following are the street names which made up the original town of Sheffield around the 1770s. Balm Green Broad Lane Bullstake Burgess Street Campo Lane Castle Folds Castle Green Castle Head Castle Hill Church Lane Coal Pit Lane Dixon Lane Fargate Figtree Lane Hartshead Hollis Croft Irish Cross Jehu Lane Millsands Newhall Street Norfolk Street Pepper Alley Priorgate Pudding Lane Ratten Row Red Croft Scargill Croft Shude Hill Snig Hill The Isle The Ponds The Underwater Townhead Street Truelove's Gutter Waingate Water Lane West Bar West Bar Green Just a few of Sheffield streets which have been re-named OLD NAME RENAMED Date included (if known) Beast Market Bull Stake then Haymarket (1830) Black Lamb Lane Jansen Street Blind Lane Holly Street Castle Folds Exchange Street Change Alley Arundel Gate Coal Pit Lane Cambridge Street (1850s) Goose Green London Road High Street Prior Gate then reverted back to High Street (part of) New Thomas Street Denby Street (1890) Pond Well Pond Hill Pinson Lane Pinstone Street Pudding Lane King Street (1700s) Paradise Square was also known locally as Pot Square Sembly Green Wicker South Street The Moor (1922) The Shambles Castle Square Trueloves Gutter Castle Green Head then Castle Green Under the Water Bridge Street (1800s) Virgins Row / Walk West Parade then St James Row Walkley Road Infirmary Road Well Gate Townhead Street Workhouse Lane Paradise Street Census Records | Vital Records | Family Trees & Communities | Immigration Records | Military Records Directories & Member Lists | Family & Local Histories | Newspapers & Periodicals | Court, Land & Probate | Finding Aids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobberd Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Sorry to drag this from way back but a definitive answer appears in this paragraph from "A DESCRIPTION OF THE TOWN OF SHEFFIELD in my remembrance wrote in the year 1832 at the time the Cholera was raging in Sheffield. BY JOSEPH WOOLHOUSE." "Where the Town Hall stands was some old Houses, built with no regularity, from this corner to the corner of Castle Green. Castle Sreet was called True Love Gutter, but from what I can't tell." To obtain the naming of the road a "Mr. R. E. Leader wrote the notes upon Woolhouse's "description" this from those notes "Truelove's Gutter took its name from a resident family named Truelove." This out of copyright material has been transcribed by Eric Youle, who has * * provided the transcription on condition that any further copying and * * distribution of the transcription is allowed only for noncommercial * * purposes, and includes this statement in its entirety. Any references to, * * or quotations from, this material should give credit to the original * * author(s) or editors. I hope that sort of clears this up. Read the original it is really interesting. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~exy..._circa_1800.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neddy Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Do we have the Gales and Martin 1787 on here ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted March 27, 2008 Author Share Posted March 27, 2008 Do we have the Glaes and Martin 1787 on here ? I have it, just working out how to add it to "My" List. We have it on here now ! ------------------------------- Gales and Martin 1787, alphabetical by Surname (little else there !) ------------------------------- Roger Almond victualler Blind Lane Almond victualler Townhead Cross George Alsop victualler Ponds Amory victualler High Street John Ashmore victualler Park George Barnsley victualler Truelove's Gutter James Beard victualler Coalpit Lane Samuel Beard victualler Furnace Lane John Beardshaw victualler Holles Croft John Beely victualler Smithfield Jerimiah Beet victualler Norfolk Street Benjamin Bell victualler Back Lane Bell victualler Copper Street Isaac Birks Victualler and butcher Truelove's Gutter Abraham Birtles victualler Burgess Street John Bland victualler Snig Hill George Bower victualler Silver Street Bright victualler Top Of Silver Street Jonathan Broadhead victaller Bullstake George Brookfield victualler Campo Lane John Brookfield victualler Church Lane John Broomhead victualler Park William Bulhouse victualler Park William Calack Victualler and butcher Campo Lane Cam victualler Far Gate Thomas Carr victualler Far Gate John Castle victualler China Square Thomas Chaloner victualler Park Richard Coldwell victualler Westbar Green William Colton victualler Hawley Croft Richard Conyers victualler Carver Street Richard Cooper victualler Snighill Cornthwaite victualler Smithfield Benjamin Crofts victualler Pond Lane Henry Dam victualler Far Gate Benjamin Darwin victualler Pond Lane Daniel Derwent victualler Barkers Pool Thomas Dewsbury victualler Coal Pit Lane George Dore victualler Smithfield Joseph Duckenfield victualler Burgess Street Ellis victualler Bullstake Joseph Epworth victualler Lambert Croft Samuel Eyre victualler West Bar John Fenton victualler Pea Croft Michael Fisher victualler Hartshead John Forward victualler Paradise Square Samuel Fowler victualler Coalpit Lane George Fox victualler Smithfield Frankish victualler High Street Joseph Gaiking victualler Bullstake John Gill victualler Shude Hill John Goodall Victualler and Bricklayer Queen Street Goodall victualler Westbar Samuel Goodlad victualler & musician Paradise Square John Gray victualler Colston Croft William Gray victualler Castle Fold Edward Greaves victualler Holles Croft John Greaves victualler High Street John Green victualler West Bar Green Matthew Green victualler Irish Cross Samuel Green victualler & cook Paradise Square John Hague victualler Coalpit Lane Thomas Hague victualler Park Thomas Hall victualler Burgess Street Thomas Hall Victualler and Butcher Hartshead James Hallam victualler, cutler Norfolk Street Thomas Hardwick victualler Bullstake Abraham Harpham victualler Red Croft Joseph Hartley victualler Market Place John Hatfield victualler Truelove's Gutter John Hawke victualler Spring Street George Hawley victualler Hawley Croft Samuel Helifield victualler Grindle Gate Joseph Henson victualler High Street Heywood victualler Ratten Row Peter Hinchcliffe victualler China Square John Holland victualler Far Gate James Holt victualler Coalpit Lane Houlden victualler Gibralter George Howson victualler, scissorsmith Blind Lane Samuel Hoyland victualler, scissorsmith Blind Lane Isaac Hydes victualler Snig Hill John Inglesby victualler Park Jeeves victualler Coalpit Lane Paris Justice victualler, cutler Spring Street Kinder victualler Market Place John Kirkby victualler Sheffield Moor Samuel Kirkby cutler & victualler Lambert Croft Charles Law victualler Castle Fold Peter Law victualler Church Lane Robert Law victualler Water Lane George Lindley victualler & scissorsmith Queen Street Samuel Lister victualler Westbar John Longden victualler Gregory Row Thomas Longden victualler Hawley Croft George Ludlam victualler Scotland Street Machon victualler Pea Croft Benjamin Mappin victualler Coalpit Lane Joseph Marsh victualler Sheffield Moor Thomas Marshall victualler Campo Lane Mellor victualler Castle Green Middleton victualler China Square Benjamin Moore victualler Smithfield Thomas Mozley victualler Ponds David Naylor victualler Silver Street Benjamin Newton victualler Bailey Field Paul Oates victualler Far Gate William Oldgate victualler Millsands John Oldham victualler Far Gate John Osguthorpe victualler Barker Pool Paul Pass victualler Carver Street George Pearson victualler Park Potter victualler Barker Pool William Potts victualler Colston Croft John Ragg victualler Church Lane James Richardson victualler High Street Jonathan Roberts victualler Pea Croft Robert Roebuck victualler Pea Croft John Rofe victualler Church Lane John Rogers victualler Westbar Green James Ronksley victualler Westbar Benjamin Rowley victualler Far Gate Samuel Scott victualler Gibralter Joseph Sergeant victualler Water Lane John Shaw gardener & victualler Spring Street John Sheldon victualler Pinston Lane John Shepherd cutler & victualler Holles Croft Samuel Shepley Victualler and butcher Market Place Benjamin Shirt victualler Castle Green Samuel Shirt victualler Silver Street John Siddall victualler High Street George Smith victualler Brinsworth's Orchard Thomas Sorsby victualler Campo Lane Wintington Sowter victualler Campo Lane Stacey victualler Water Lane William Staniforth victualler Lambert Croft Edward Steel victualler Far Gate Benjamin Sterndale victualler Far Gate Suatt victualler Spring Street Matthew Swinden cutler & victualler Holles Croft Thomas Tarbottom cutler & victualler Scotland Street Joseph Taylor victualler & musician Top Of Siver Street Paul Taylor victualler & cutler Pond Lane Margaret Teasdale victualler Coalpit Lane Thomas Teasdale victualler Arundel Street Thorpe victualler High Street William Towler victualler Holles Croft John Turner victualler Sheffield Moor Turner victualler Church Lane Aaron Tyas victualler Bottom Of White Croft Alexander Vauce victualler Westbar Green Wadsworth victualler Shude Hill John Wainwright victualler Bailey Field William Walker victualler Scotland Street Ward scissorsmith & victualler Burgess Street Thomas Whitaker victualler Truelove's Gutter Stephen White victualler Gibralter John Whitehead victualler Scotland Street John Wild victualler Ratten Row Jonathan Wild cutler & victualler Sims Croft David Wilson victualler Top Of Silver Street Joseph Wilson victualler Shude Hill Joseph Wilson victualler Shude Hill William Wilson victualler Pea Croft Wing victualler Bottom Of Hawley Croft Wooddall victualler Spring Street Thomas Wright victualler Bullstake Joseph Wroe victualler Brinsworth's Orchard Enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted March 27, 2008 Author Share Posted March 27, 2008 RichardB wonders whether Dobberd and Neddy noticed that slight mistake-ette he he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neddy Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 RichardB wonders whether Dobberd and Neddy noticed that slight mistake-ette Saw mine and corrected, I transcribed the names in the Gales and Martin back in 05, just wondered if it was on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobberd Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 It does appear to me that for 1787 read 1781. Is that perhaps to what you refer or am I missing the blindingly obvious as usual. :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted March 27, 2008 Author Share Posted March 27, 2008 It does appear to me that for 1787 read 1781. Is that perhaps to what you refer or am I missing the blindingly obvious as usual. Nooooo, you're the 1781 man !!! I just posted all the 1787 ones and managed to miss off the first names - mind you, I did sort it out very quickly so no-one noticed that I'm an idiot ... :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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