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Hi all , im.sorry if this thread is in the wrong place I'm trying to find final resting place of any Learys who lived on spital hill (#44-46) and rock street  , they were in the methodist church ,not sure if the bodys where buried or cremated,  John leary (draper) (could be buried in the area) and his Wife Emma Leary nee beard (Emma possibly passed away in stoney Middleton) their children all moved away 

Their children where :

Albert edward Leary died 1916 christchurch hospital bournemouth from TB  he was down as being a drapers assistant at time of death so not war related?  The family had money he was their only son , would John and Emma leave his body all that way down south? 

Ethel baker Leary died in cleethorpes she married twice , first marriage was to a chambers (possibly John) then she married a birkett also brought up 5 or 6 kids that were not hers (both marriage were 2nd for the husband) 

Ida may leary died either 1961 or 63 in bridlington a spinster she lived in stoney Middleton with her mum at one point till Emma died , she was the one who took care of everyone more so my grandmother and great aunt after their mother (Ida's sister Doris) passed away so young 

Eva maude Leary , not sure when she passed away she married a gibson and moved to Canada in 1915 possibly with the methodist movement 

Doris hilda Leary (my Great grandmother) died around 1935ish possibly around spital hill could be buried in the area 

I know I've got family out there somewhere all linked to the learys

I've added a photo of John and Emma Leary with their children also Doris Leary and Joseph Harrisons wedding which was in the burngreave church 

 

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John Leary (b 1855) of 149 Blair Athol Road was buried at Ecclesall Church on 14th September 1935 aged 81, the service was at Burngreave Methodist Church. He was run over at the junction of Ecclesall Road South and Brincliffe Edge Road on the night of Wednesday 11th September 1935. Mr Leary came round the back of a stationary tramcar in a hurry, and the driver of a motor car (Mr George Cuthbert Simon, 21, a motor engineer of Dunkeld Road) sounded his horn and moved to the centre of the road to overtake the tram. However he hit the victim with the side of his car. The inquest jury found a verdict of Accidental Death with negligence by both the driver and the dead man.

Emma Leary (b 1858) of 149 Blair Athol Road was buried at Ecclesall Church on 28th September 1940 aged 82, the service was performed by Harold E Hamblin, a Methodist minister.

Albert Edward Leary was interred in Boscombe Cemetery on 20th July 1916. He was a clothier's assistant living at 22 Carnarvon Road, Boscombe. He had been under Dr Morton's care for three years with TB but had not been attended to during his final 2 months, although he had severe coughing episodes. On Tuesday 18th July 1916, Mrs Bailey, his lndlady hear him coughing and calling for her - she went to his room, found him vomiting blood and called for Dr Hordern, but on the doctor's arrival Albert was dead. John Leary of 16 Spital Hill, Sheffield identified the deceased as his son.

Doris Hilda Leary (b 1893) married Joseph Harrison in 1918. She was buried at Ecclesall Church on 20th May 1937, aged 44, her residence being 44 Thompson Road.

Eva Maude Leary (b 1890) married Colin Gibson (son of J.C.Gibson , chemist of Nottingham street, Sheffield) in Winnipeg on 25th March 1915 (address Viola Dale, Manitoba). She died at Victoria, British Columbia on 29th May 1967 aged 77.

Ethel Baker Leary (b 1883) married Henry James Chambers in 1918. Lived at 189 Grimsby Road in 1931. She married Charles E Burkitt in 1951. She died at 26 Oxford Street, Cleethorpes on 2nd May 1969.

Ida May Leary (b 1887) of 21 St. Oswald Road, Bridlington died on 28th December 1961 aged 74.

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5 hours ago, Edmund said:

John Leary (b 1855) of 149 Blair Athol Road was buried at Ecclesall Church on 14th September 1935 aged 81, the service was at Burngreave Methodist Church. He was run over at the junction of Ecclesall Road South and Brincliffe Edge Road on the night of Wednesday 11th September 1935. Mr Leary came round the back of a stationary tramcar in a hurry, and the driver of a motor car (Mr George Cuthbert Simon, 21, a motor engineer of Dunkeld Road) sounded his horn and moved to the centre of the road to overtake the tram. However he hit the victim with the side of his car. The inquest jury found a verdict of Accidental Death with negligence by both the driver and the dead man.

Emma Leary (b 1858) of 149 Blair Athol Road was buried at Ecclesall Church on 28th September 1940 aged 82, the service was performed by Harold E Hamblin, a Methodist minister.

Albert Edward Leary was interred in Boscombe Cemetery on 20th July 1916. He was a clothier's assistant living at 22 Carnarvon Road, Boscombe. He had been under Dr Morton's care for three years with TB but had not been attended to during his final 2 months, although he had severe coughing episodes. On Tuesday 18th July 1916, Mrs Bailey, his lndlady hear him coughing and calling for her - she went to his room, found him vomiting blood and called for Dr Hordern, but on the doctor's arrival Albert was dead. John Leary of 16 Spital Hill, Sheffield identified the deceased as his son.

Doris Hilda Leary (b 1893) married Joseph Harrison in 1918. She was buried at Ecclesall Church on 20th May 1937, aged 44, her residence being 44 Thompson Road.

Eva Maude Leary (b 1890) married Colin Gibson (son of J.C.Gibson , chemist of Nottingham street, Sheffield) in Winnipeg on 25th March 1915 (address Viola Dale, Manitoba). She died at Victoria, British Columbia on 29th May 1967 aged 77.

Ethel Baker Leary (b 1883) married Henry James Chambers in 1918. Lived at 189 Grimsby Road in 1931. She married Charles E Burkitt in 1951. She died at 26 Oxford Street, Cleethorpes on 2nd May 1969.

Ida May Leary (b 1887) of 21 St. Oswald Road, Bridlington died on 28th December 1961 aged 74.

Oh my days 

Thankyou so much for this information i am so grateful , how did you know all this? Its pretty much what I knew except for where everyone is buried also johns death i just thought maybe old age , I thought maybe Emma would be buried with her husband , nice to know they are together ❤,  didnt know much on albert , I thought maybe he caught Tb in the trenches but his death certificate said what you did sad story for him I am now wondering what took him to bournemouth? plus I now have somewhere I can pay my respect at , I'm doing a Leary pilgrim of where everyone lived this helps a great deal ypu have no idea how grateful I am for this info is the Ecclesall Church still standing? 

Joseph Harrison remarried in 1949 to an Agnes May pickford .in cleethorpes 

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6 hours ago, Edmund said:

John Leary (b 1855) of 149 Blair Athol Road was buried at Ecclesall Church on 14th September 1935 aged 81, the service was at Burngreave Methodist Church. He was run over at the junction of Ecclesall Road South and Brincliffe Edge Road on the night of Wednesday 11th September 1935. Mr Leary came round the back of a stationary tramcar in a hurry, and the driver of a motor car (Mr George Cuthbert Simon, 21, a motor engineer of Dunkeld Road) sounded his horn and moved to the centre of the road to overtake the tram. However he hit the victim with the side of his car. The inquest jury found a verdict of Accidental Death with negligence by both the driver and the dead man.

Emma Leary (b 1858) of 149 Blair Athol Road was buried at Ecclesall Church on 28th September 1940 aged 82, the service was performed by Harold E Hamblin, a Methodist minister.

Albert Edward Leary was interred in Boscombe Cemetery on 20th July 1916. He was a clothier's assistant living at 22 Carnarvon Road, Boscombe. He had been under Dr Morton's care for three years with TB but had not been attended to during his final 2 months, although he had severe coughing episodes. On Tuesday 18th July 1916, Mrs Bailey, his lndlady hear him coughing and calling for her - she went to his room, found him vomiting blood and called for Dr Hordern, but on the doctor's arrival Albert was dead. John Leary of 16 Spital Hill, Sheffield identified the deceased as his son.

Doris Hilda Leary (b 1893) married Joseph Harrison in 1918. She was buried at Ecclesall Church on 20th May 1937, aged 44, her residence being 44 Thompson Road.

Eva Maude Leary (b 1890) married Colin Gibson (son of J.C.Gibson , chemist of Nottingham street, Sheffield) in Winnipeg on 25th March 1915 (address Viola Dale, Manitoba). She died at Victoria, British Columbia on 29th May 1967 aged 77.

Ethel Baker Leary (b 1883) married Henry James Chambers in 1918. Lived at 189 Grimsby Road in 1931. She married Charles E Burkitt in 1951. She died at 26 Oxford Street, Cleethorpes on 2nd May 1969.

Ida May Leary (b 1887) of 21 St. Oswald Road, Bridlington died on 28th December 1961 aged 74.

The Leary sisters 

Left to right : Ethel Baker Leary , Ida May Leary , Doris Hilda Leary , Eva Maude Leary 

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The two newspaper cuttings below, from the Lincolnshire Chronicle may throw some light into Leary family goings on.  In 1899 John and his younger brother Thomas (Town Postman in Welton village, Lincs) were unwilling to support their parents (William and Rebecca) who were on Poor Relief in their home village of Welton (5 miles north east of Lincoln).

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56 minutes ago, Edmund said:

The two newspaper cuttings below, from the Lincolnshire Chronicle may throw some light into Leary family goings on.  In 1899 John and his younger brother Thomas (Town Postman in Welton village, Lincs) were unwilling to support their parents (William and Rebecca) who were on Poor Relief in their home village of Welton (5 miles north est of Lincoln).

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The pair of them dont sound very nice, glad times have changed , thanks for sharing this 😀 

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15 hours ago, Treebaby76 said:

The pair of them dont sound very nice, glad times have changed , thanks for sharing this 😀 

Is the ecclesall church you mentioned now 'all saints' Ecclesall Road ?

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45 minutes ago, Treebaby76 said:

Is the ecclesall church you mentioned now 'all saints' Ecclesall Road ?

Yes, Ringinglow Road/Ecclesall Road South.

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2 hours ago, Edmund said:

Yes, Ringinglow Road/Ecclesall Road South.

Thanks a lot, you've been a great help 👍 

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On 02/06/2022 at 19:50, Edmund said:

The two newspaper cuttings below, from the Lincolnshire Chronicle may throw some light into Leary family goings on.  In 1899 John and his younger brother Thomas (Town Postman in Welton village, Lincs) were unwilling to support their parents (William and Rebecca) who were on Poor Relief in their home village of Welton (5 miles north east of Lincoln).

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We have johns parents down as Edward and Sarah (baker) first born daughter of John is Ethel Baker leary ) (this is information we have had for a while) , the William and Rebecca is a different family of learys , plus the dates on the Rebecca and John side just don't add up 

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3 hours ago, Treebaby76 said:

We have johns parents down as Edward and Sarah (baker) first born daughter of John is Ethel Baker leary ) (this is information we have had for a while) , the William and Rebecca is a different family of learys , plus the dates on the Rebecca and John side just don't add up 

Quite right!

Edward Leary was born in 1818 at Welton, the son of William Leary.  Edward married Sarah Baker on 27th July 1840.

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Edward and Sarahs children were:

Mary Ann baptised 6th December 1840 and buried 20th December 1858

Thomas (postman) baptised 12th February 1843

Susan baptised 6th July 1845

Ann born quarter 1 1847 (mothers maiden name Baker) buried 9th January 1859

Edward baptised 29th April 1849 buried 19th November 1854

William baptised 2nd November 1851 possibly buried 19th January 1859

John baptised 2nd July 1854

Betsey baptised 21st August 1859

Edward's wife Sarah was buried on 10th May 1881 at St Mary's Welton aged 65. In May 1882 Edward remarried to a much younger spinster from Welton, named Ann Palin (see newspaper report), he was 64 and she was 47.  Edward died aged 88 on 2nd February 1906 and was buried at Welton on 6th February.  According to the Lincolnshire Family History Society there is a monumental inscription in St Mary's graveyard, which is at location "faculty" and reference ANW6.  (I wonder if his offspring finally put their hands in their pockets for a gravestone?)

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3 hours ago, Edmund said:

Quite right!

Edward Leary was born in 1818 at Welton, the son of William Leary.  Edward married Sarah Baker on 27th July 1840.

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Edward and Sarahs children were:

Mary Ann baptised 6th December 1840 and buried 20th December 1858

Thomas (postman) baptised 12th February 1843

Susan baptised 6th July 1845

Ann born quarter 1 1847 (mothers maiden name Baker) buried 9th January 1859

Edward baptised 29th April 1849 buried 19th November 1854

William baptised 2nd November 1851 possibly buried 19th January 1859

John baptised 2nd July 1854

Betsey baptised 21st August 1859

Edward's wife Sarah was buried on 10th May 1881 at St Mary's Welton aged 65. In May 1882 Edward remarried to a much younger spinster from Welton, named Ann Palin (see newspaper report), he was 64 and she was 47.  Edward died aged 88 on 2nd February 1906 and was buried at Welton on 6th February.  According to the Lincolnshire Family History Society there is a monumental inscription in St Mary's graveyard, which is at location "faculty" and reference ANW6.  (I wonder if his offspring finally put their hands in their pockets for a gravestone?)

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I was starting to wonder maybe Edward and Sarah ended up in a poor house but I guess they didn't otherwise they would have been put in a public grave? We went to Eccleshall church over the weekend  just for a mooch about and you can tell you needed money to have that type of grave there so for his parents to have just an inscription and for him to have a posher grave just don't sit right with me , what an awful man he was , bet his parents begged borrowed and stole to feed all their kids ,what a kick in the teeth to be pushed aside and labelled a burden later in life when they needed them the most , hope Mrs leary #2 didn't have it as bad 

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On 02/06/2022 at 19:50, Edmund said:

The two newspaper cuttings below, from the Lincolnshire Chronicle may throw some light into Leary family goings on.  In 1899 John and his younger brother Thomas (Town Postman in Welton village, Lincs) were unwilling to support their parents (William and Rebecca) who were on Poor Relief in their home village of Welton (5 miles north east of Lincoln).

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I think I know why they didn't pay, 

Sarah had passed away some 8yrs prior to this , Edward would have been with his 2nd wife (palin) they probably felt that they shouldn't have to pay for their step mother , could of been out of spite for him getting remarried  its definitely my learys as my Great great grandfather John had 2 shops on spital hill , looks like Sarah and Edward are next to each other in Welton,  no headstone from what I can see on Google maps ( could be flat) but will pop along and plant a flower for them looks like their son William is next to Sarah also 

Still can't find any of the graves in ecclesall church which is frustrating 

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