Hjdary Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 I have a confession to make. I am a totally obsessed by a old radio show called Round the Horne I'm sure tons of you have heard it before..it still on radio seven even now The bit I love the most is the Julian and Sandy sketches. The thing that got me hooked..other than the outrageous comedy was the language they used ...POLARI. Has anyone ever heard of it before or heard it used?? From what I've read it was mainly used in show biz circles and in the 1960..mainly by the gay community. It is said to stem from travellers and has a bit of all sorts in it. Am I the only one sitting in their lattie with sore lallies from all this tapping away, vardaring the internet tonight. How bona! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tsavo Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 I have a confession to make. I am a totally obsessed by a old radio show called Round the Horne I'm sure tons of you have heard it before..it still on radio seven even now The bit I love the most is the Julian and Sandy sketches. The thing that got me hooked..other than the outrageous comedy was the language they used ...POLARI. Has anyone ever heard of it before or heard it used?? From what I've read it was mainly used in show biz circles and in the 1960..mainly by the *** community. It is said to stem from travellers and has a bit of all sorts in it. Am I the only one sitting in their lattie with sore lallies from all this tapping away, vardaring the internet tonight. How bona! Amazingly neither the BBC bosses or the programmes producers thought it anything but nonsense language. Kanneth Horne was also the Chairman of a toy making company. Chad Valley, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hjdary Posted July 21, 2007 Author Share Posted July 21, 2007 He was. and at some point the chairman of triplex glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hjdary Posted July 21, 2007 Author Share Posted July 21, 2007 I got a cd off ebay a few weeks ago by Barry Took one of the writers. In it he tells the history of the show and mentions more than once, the trouble they got in to over the show. Most of the trouble was to caused by Mary Whitehouse and her predcessor, who's name I've forgot. They mostly whinged about the way Kenneth Willams played J. Peasmold Gruntfuttock. In the Gruntfuttock sketches willaims would speak his lines in a very biblical manor which disturbed them greatly.... "I've had the voices again ya see. I was coming home from the pub and stopped to cool my feveredbrow on the butchers window when an un-earthly noise came from the pigs head in the window ...Gruntfuttock my child...throw off your rich apparell and gird up your lions. Well I think thats what it said. It had an apple in its mouth you see!" I think if they were going to get done it should have been for the Rambeling Sid Rumpo songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayleaf Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 Mary Whitehouse's co-censor (self appointed) was Sir Cyril Black. In a book of the scripts Barry Took supplied a glossary of Julian and Sandy's slang. Apparently it was all genuine, and most of the words were of gypsy origin or circus and fairground slang, which was later used by actors and dancers in the theatre. Palare=talk (Romany) bona=good vada=look omi=man palone=woman omipalone=homosexual riah=hair lallies=legs dolly=nice, pleasant eek=face naph=bad nante=none/nothing lucoddy=body fantabulosa=excellent troll=walk lattie=house. Apparently the two characters were originally supposed to be aging actors, but the producer read the script and said they were sad rather than funny, and suggested re-writing them as 'boy dancers', and Sandy and Jules were born. It's great to hear the shows again, but for fans, the BBC has issued just the Sandy and Jules bits on tape. As well as the usual characters, I loved Douglas Smith the announcer. His versions of a Sopwith Camel in their version of The Blue Max, a racing car in another episode, the world in Round the World in 80 days, and the Royal Seal of the Queen of Spain were wonderful! But I think my favourites were the occasions when Kenneth Williams came out of character to protest about his treatment by the writers, cast and the world in general including Edward Braden (great hairy fool!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest plain talker Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 round the horne revisited, (the stage play) came to the lyceum, a couple of years ago, and it was absolutely a scream. The audience were rapt, and every time Jles and sandy came"came on" there was a MASSIVE roar of approval. there's a review of the production when it was at Bradford in sept 2005 here, with the a pic of the actors playing the RTH crew. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bradford/stage/2005/0...the_horne.shtml the chap playing Kenny Williams got him bang-on, with the snorts and the chortles, he'd do. and the woman playing bety marsden ( who did the character "dame celia molestrangler", for one) really got the characters down to a tee also. my favourite line from the whole show, was when J and S said "we have had a criminal practice that's been taking up most of our time!" ooh-er missus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hjdary Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 Douglas Smith was amazing in that show. These days you can't stop serious news types trying to be funny especialy aroung red nose day but back then it wasn't the done thing..a present from the third program fooling around! I enjoyed the silly adverts he did.... "Does your Horse come home from the office tired? Is he feeling run down and listless? Give him Dobbyroids... Yes Dobbieroids..the makers of medical cumberbunds for horses......." Then unfortunatly he is cut off in mid flow by the crisp command of Horne.."SMITH. SMITH. Have you lost your senses....get on with it man" There was also a very funny sketch when Smith sang..'no body love a fairy when shes forty' a very funny song. I'm giggling now and singing alone and I'm very glad you all can't hear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayleaf Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Amazingly neither the BBC bosses or the programmes producers thought it anything but nonsense language. Kanneth Horne was also the Chairman of a toy making company. Chad Valley, I think. I remember reading somewhere that he refused to admit knowing of a game called 'Monopoly' that was made by a rival company! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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