Peter Hall Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 In preparedness' for the South Yorkshire Transport Trust Open Day on Sunday I have been updating my lists of surviving buses with a local connection. Having now found away to convert and save these in a compatible format for this forum I can now make these available. The first can be found below and lists the survivors that were once in the fleets of Sheffield Transport Department / Joint Omnibus Committee, 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boginspro Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 The bus that was to me the best I ever drove is listed there, but it is a shame she was cut down. 475 is a lovely vehicle, just my kind of bus, she could knock nine bells out of the modern front loaders.. All the Leyland's were powerful but with the engine she had in the last years before being retired she could lick anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Hall Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 Known survivors from the SYPTE era are listed below, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy117 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 A few additions to the list:- Cut down from double deckers and still knocking around M3 OWJ 353A in Blackpool area M4 OWJ 354A in Blackpool area M16 OWJ 782A in South Yorkshire Transport Trust (SYTT) Rotherham And subtract from the list 61 C61 LHL Ford Transit / Carlyle - recently scrapped. Others in existence used by STD/SYT but not new to either:- M1 DUG 167C ex-Blueline now SYTT M18 BWW 654B ex- T. Severn & Sons in Doncaster now in Keighley bus museum Nigel L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Hall Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 Nigel's post prompts me to add the list of survivors from Doncaster and Rotherham Corporations and the independents from these areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit2 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 ...just an update on 287 - SWB 287L - formally converted to open-top during its SYT/ Mainline days - now superbly restored and with its roof back on , and finished in Sheffield Transport livery as it was when new ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Hall Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/08/2018 at 19:49, Transit2 said: ...just an update on 287 - SWB 287L - formally converted to open-top during its SYT/ Mainline days - now superbly restored and with its roof back on , and finished in Sheffield Transport livery as it was when new ! Indeed, I was very impressed with the restoration when I saw it at the SYTT Open Day in July. Any one who was able to attend the, what I presume was a very hastily arranged, Open Day at Olive Grove (Eastbank in old money) Depot in September was no doubt shocked to see 287's sister 293. I had presumed 293 UWA 293L was no more but seemingly not. It is now also part of the SYTT collection - another update to the list. Personally, I only heard about the Open Day two weeks before and too late to juggle other commitments. Those usually in the know seeming to know little or nothing about it at that stage either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit2 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 ....another Open Day will be arranged around June/July next year Peter - i will update when the date is confirmed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boginspro Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Nice to see a Crossley on the list, even if it is not a Sheffield one. Am I right in saying 213 was the last Crossley delivered to Rotherham? I know there was a 214 fleet number. Does anyone know what happened to the Crossley engine that was on display at Greenland Road? I think in the driving school after the last Crossley came out of service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Hall Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 On 27/10/2018 at 21:58, boginspro said: Nice to see a Crossley on the list, even if it is not a Sheffield one. Am I right in saying 213 was the last Crossley delivered to Rotherham? I know there was a 214 fleet number. Thought this would be quite easy to answer until I spotted a glaring omission in the published Rotherham Corporation Transport Fleet Histories I consulted. All these omitted the 1952 batch of Crossley Double Deckers! Perhaps the reason for the question? Anyhow, further delving reveals these to be 209 - 214 HET 209-214. However, the chassis numbers are not in numerical sequence when it comes to road registrations and quoted delivery months. 95903 HET 509 209 5/52 95904 HET 510 210 6/52 95905 HET 511 211 6/52 95906 HET 512 212 7/52 95907 HET 514 214 9/52 95908 HET 513 213 8/52 Thus, although 213 was the last Crossley built for Rotherham it was not the last delivered. . As far as I am aware 213 is still tucked away in a bomb proof hanger at the Science Museum store at Wroughton Airfield near Swindon. Public Access is now very restricted if permitted at all. Can't say too much on a public forum other than to say an approach was made about displaying 213 at the Midland Road Open Day in 2014. Unfortunately the hoops were set too high for it to have been practical. The hope had been to display all two and a half surviving RCT Motor buses together but in the event only 135 made it, With so few RCT motor buses surviving it is to be hoped that 213 can return home at some point in the future. The South Yorkshire Transport Museum being an ideal home especially since 220 has departed for Beamish. Hope this digression into Rotherham is within the permitted boundaries of this forum. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boginspro Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Thanks Peter , I did drive Rotherham buses on the odd occasion, only Daimlers mind, and they were really nice to drive, it is a pity there are so few left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterside Echo Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 10 hours ago, boginspro said: Thanks Peter , I did drive Rotherham buses on the odd occasion, only Daimlers mind, and they were really nice to drive, it is a pity there are so few left. We called them "Rotherham Tankers". W/E. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boginspro Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 57 minutes ago, Waterside Echo said: We called them "Rotherham Tankers". W/E. I remember that term and from that I am guessing you were a Greenland Road driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Hall Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 In the early SYPTE days some of the Rotherham Daimlers were transferred to Doncaster and Greenland garages although use on 69, 277 & 278 routes resulted in it not always being obvious that this had taken place. For a lesser period a very small number also saw use at Herries and Leadmill. Previously a small number had appeared in Sheffield in 1973 during a period of vehicle shortage. The Daimlers were certainly referred to as 'Rotherham Tankers' by Greenland crews, presumably a reflection of them having a more lively performance when compared with the former Sheffield AEC's and Leylands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Hall Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 Having not so far been reprimanded for straying over the boundary into Rotherham I will tempt fate by adding an updated list of all known survivors of Rotherham Corporation Transport (RCT) motorbuses, trolleybuses and support vehicles in Great Britain, three in each category. Actually a very small number when compared with other municipal operations of a similar size. Of particular note is FET 218 the Austin K8 Welders Truck dating back to 1949. Although sold into preservation by SYPTE in 1977 it had been presumed the lack of any reports in recent years were an indication that it no longer survived. That however was not the case and in the last couple of months ownership has changed and it has returned to South Yorkshire. Despite being stored in the open for over twenty years it is in reasonable condition with a full restoration expected to get underway shortly No photographs of FET 218 in service have yet emerged so if anyone has any please make contact. It now has a pick-up style of back which during its later days had a frame with canvas cover. Whether this was how it was originally configured is not known for sure as a previous owner recalls that it may have originally had a conventional van body that was cut down by RCT at some point. Thus the appeal for photographs. Although a number of Austin K8's have been restored, pictures of which can be found on the net, none have a similar pick up style back which does suggest that the one on FET 218 may be a product of the Rawmarsh Road body shop. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voldy Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Whilst upgrading my knowledge about Wroughton Museum online (I made a speculative unsuccessful call there some years ago whilst in the area), I came across this:- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-42456778 If you scroll down the article there is a glimpse of RCT Crossley 213 in an unfriendly photographic environment between two fellow prisoners! The local Swindon paper has run encouraging columns over the past couple of years though the lack of funding will no doubt continue to stall any progress on this Museum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterside Echo Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 On 14/11/2018 at 22:28, boginspro said: I remember that term and from that I am guessing you were a Greenland Road driver. No, I just did a lot of "suet" in the 60s&70s. I spent my career at Sheffield's "premier" depot north of the city. W/E. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Hall Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 On 21/10/2018 at 18:57, Transit2 said: ....another Open Day will be arranged around June/July next year Peter - i will update when the date is confirmed ! Understand it was quite well publicised on buses the users of which were presumably the principal audience. Spoke to someone who took their son and they gave it the thumbs up. There was a time when the local bus, trolleybus and tram networks reflected civic pride. Open days I feel are a good way of rekindling that especially when a selection of vehicles from the past in traditional colours are included. The efforts of those involved in making these things happen are appreciated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Hall Posted July 15, 2019 Author Share Posted July 15, 2019 With the South Yorkshire Transport Trust 2019 Open Day a few days away I been updating my lists of Surviving SYPTE and Constituents buses. Below is my listing of SJOC/STD vehicles along with those of the absorbed independents that ran into Sheffield. Surviving Sheffield (SJOC/STD) motorbuses Single-deckers 216 JWB 416 Leyland PS1 / Weymann 54 DWB 54H AEC Swift / Park Royal Double-deckers 116 OWE 116 AEC Regent III / Roe 687 RWB 87 Leyland PD2/12 / Weymann 525 1925 WA AEC Bridgemaster / Park Royal 1156 3156 WE Leyland PD2/30 / Roe (3156) 904 3904 WE Leyland PD3/1 / Roe (used as DIV) (D14) 1330 6330 WJ AEC Regent V / Roe 874 7874 WJ AEC Regent V / Alexander 1357 657 BWB Leyland Atlantean PDR1/1 / Park Royal (used as DIV) (227 – M120) 1148 DWB 148H Leyland Atlantean PDR2/1 / Park Royal converted to roadshow bus (748) 257 NWA 257K Daimler Fleetline /Alexander 271 OWE 271K Bristol VRT / East Lancs 287 SWB 287L Leyland Atlantean / Alexander 293 UWA 293L Leyland Atlantean / Alexander 296 UWA 296L Leyland Atlantean / Alexander 312 UWA 312L Leyland Atlantean / East Lancs 754 WWJ 754M Daimler Fleetline / Park Royal Ordered by STD delivered to SYPTE 836 GNA 836N Daimler Fleetline / ECW 1515 OKW 515R Daimler Fleetline / MCW (DMS style) – were to have been Alexander 1534 PWE 534R Daimler Fleetline / Alexander Double-deckers cut down 3108 CWJ 410 AEC Regent / Weymann converted to tower wagon (TW58) 4624 GWJ 724 AEC Regent / Sheffield converted to gritting/towing wagon (G54) 255 KWE 255 AEC Regent III / Roe converted to gritting/towing wagon (G55) 913 3913 WE Leyland PD3/1 / Roe converted to gritting/towing wagon (M10) (OWJ 357A) 475 4475 WE Leyland PD3/1 / Roe converted to gritting/towing wagon (M52) (OWJ 388A) Double-deckers re-bodied after disposal 287 CWB 987 Leyland TD4C / Cravens ( re-bodied c1952 by Crossville with ex Salford Metro-Cammell body) Surviving Sheffield (SJOC/STD) support vehicles T47 KWJ 681 Fordson TN Tractor L42 RWE 101 Leyland Comet Lorry Surviving Booth & Fisher Motor Services motorbuses Single-deckers ---- TUH 14 Albion Nimbus NS3N / Harrington (ex Western Welsh) ---- WRA 12 AEC Monocoach / Park Royal 1086 334 NKT AEC Reliance 2MU3RV / Weymann (ex Maidstone & District) 1088 340 NKT AEC Reliance 2MU3RV / Weymann (ex Maidstone & District) Surviving Dearneways motorbuses Single-deckers 1092 AWJ 292T Leyland Leopard PSU3E/4R / Plaxton C51F (368 SHX) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Hall Posted July 15, 2019 Author Share Posted July 15, 2019 An updated list of Surviving vehicles acquired new / second hand or loaned to SYPTE. Surviving South Yorkshire PTE motorbuses Single-deckers 80 KCR 108P Leyland National 10351/2R / Leyland (ex Portsmouth) 79 KSO 74P Leyland National 10351/2R / Leyland (ex Grampian) 11 AAK 111T Leyland National 10351B/1R / Leyland 1075 FWA 475V Leyland National NL106L11/1R / Leyland 22 KWA 22W Leyland National NL116L11/1R / Leyland 76 B976 DWG Dennis Dorchester / Plaxton (B674 GWJ) 41 C41 HDT Dennis Domino / Optare 53 C53 HDT Dennis Domino / Optare Single-deckers hired during 1981 crisis 1972 GAT 180D Leyland Panther PSUR1/1 / Roe (hired from Kingston upon Hull CT 3-4/81) Single-deckers hired for trials and evaluation 1004 GNC 276N Seddon-Lucas / Pennine (hired from GMPTE) Bendi-buses 2006 CRM 927T Leyland-DAB / Leyland 2009 FHE 292V Leyland-DAB / Leyland 2010 FWA 450V Leyland-DAB / Leyland 2013 C113 HDT Leyland-DAB /Leyland-DAB Double-deckers 377 LWB 377P Ailsa B55-10 / Van-Hool McArdle 388 LWB 388P Ailsa B55-10 / Van-Hool McArdle 1647 XWG 647T Leyland Atlantean AN68A/1R / Roe 1655 XWG 655T Leyland Atlantean AN68A/1R / Roe 1696 CWG 696V Leyland Atlantean AN68A/1R / Alexander 1707 CWG 707V Leyland Atlantean AN68A/1R / Alexander 1756 CWG 756V Leyland Atlantean AN68A/1R / Roe 1861 JHE 161W Metrobus DR104 / MCW 1781 JKW 281W Leyland Atlantean AN68B/1R / Alexander 1790 JKW 290W Leyland Atlantean AN68B/1R / Alexander 1831 JKW 331W Leyland Atlantean AN68B/1R / Marshall 2120 KKU 120W Dennis Dominator / Alexander 2214 NKU 214X Dennis Dominator / Alexander 2260 SDT 260Y Dennis Dominator / Alexander 2298 A298 XAK Dennis Dominator / Alexander 2317 A317 XAK Dennis Dominator / Northern Counties 1918 A118 XWE Metrobus DR104 / MCW 2414 A414 YAK Dennis Dominator / Alexander 2361 B361 CDT Dennis Domiator / East Lancs 2450 C45 HDT Dennis Dominator / Alexander –hybrid trolleybus 2457 C877 JWE Dennis Dominator / Alexander 2462 C882 JWE Dennis Dominator / Alexander 2479 D479 OWE Dennis Dominator / Alexander 2489 D489 OWE Dennis Dominator / Alexander Double-deckers hired during 1981 crisis 1964 PBC 98G Leyland Atlantean PDR1A/1 / ECW (hired from Leicester CT 3-6/81) 1938 WHN 411G Bristol VRTSL6G / ECW (hired from Lincolnshire RCC 4/81) Double-deckers hired for trials and evaluation 500 TOJ 592S Metrobus DR101/2 / MCW (hired from MCW – famous five) 530 NHG 732P Leyland Titan B15 / Park Royal (hired from Leyland – famous five) Surviving SYPTE Support vehicles M51 DSA 987 AEC Matador Recovery (previously Salford City Transport) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Hall Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 On 21/10/2018 at 18:57, Transit2 said: ....another Open Day will be arranged around June/July next year Peter - i will update when the date is confirmed ! Quick reminder that another Open Day has been arranged for this coming Sunday (22nd August) see Olive Grove - family fun day Thus, might be an opportune time to post an updated listing of the former STD/SJOC/RTD and other local operators that ran into Sheffield buses and support vehicles known to survive. Some of these will be on display on Sunday. Comments and corrections welcomed. Surviving Sheffield (SJOC/STD) motorbuses Single-deckers 216 JWB 416 Leyland Tiger PS1 / Weymann 54 DWB 54H AEC Swift 5P2R / Park Royal Double-deckers 116 OWE 116 AEC Regent III / Roe 687 RWB 87 Leyland Titan PD2/12 / Weymann 525 1925 WA AEC Bridgemaster / Park Royal 1156 3156 WE Leyland Titan PD2/30 / Roe (later numbered 3156) 904 3904 WE Leyland Titan PD3/1 / Roe (later used as DIV D14) 1330 6330 WJ AEC Regent V / Roe 874 7874 WJ AEC Regent V / Alexander 1357 657 BWB Leyland Atlantean PDR1/1 / Park Royal (originally Weymann bodied) (later numbered 227 and then used as DIV M120) 1148 BWB 148H Leyland Atlantean PDR2/1 / Park Royal (later numbered 748 and then converted to roadshow bus M6) 257 NWA 257K Daimler Fleetline CRG6LXB / Alexander 271 OWE 271K Bristol VRT/SL6G / East Lancs 287 SWB 287L Leyland Atlantean AN68/1R / Alexander 293 UWA 293L Leyland Atlantean AN68/1R / Alexander 296 UWA 296L Leyland Atlantean AN68/1R / Alexander 312 UWA 312L Leyland Atlantean AN68/1R / East Lancs 754 WWJ 754M Daimler Fleetline CRG6LXB / Park Royal Ordered by STD delivered to SYPTE 836 GWA 836N Daimler Fleetline CRG6LXB / ECW 1515 OKW 515R Leyland Fleetline FE30AGR / MCW (London Transport DMS style) (was to have been Alexander bodied) 1534 PWE 534R Daimler Fleetline FE30AGR / Alexander Double-deckers cut down 3108 CWJ 410 AEC Regent / Weymann converted to tower wagon TW58 4624 GWJ 724 AEC Regent / Sheffield converted to gritting/towing wagon G54 255 KWE 255 AEC Regent III / Roe converted to gritting/towing wagon G55 913 3913 WE Leyland Titan PD3/1 / Roe converted to DIV D10, then to gritting/towing wagon M10 - OWJ 357A 475 4475 WE Leyland Titan PD3/1 / Roe converted to gritting/towing wagon M52 - OWJ 388A Double-deckers re-bodied after disposal 287 CWB 987 Leyland Titan TD4C / Cravens ( re-bodied c1952 by Crossville with ex Salford Metro-Cammell body) Surviving Sheffield (SJOC/STD) support vehicles T47 KWJ 681 Fordson TN Tractor L42 RWE 101 Leyland Comet Lorry Surviving Rotherham (RCT) motorbuses Double-deckers 213 HET 513 Crossley DD42/8 / Crossley 220 KET 220 Daimler CVG6DD / Weymann Double-deckers cut down 135 TET 135 Daimler CVG6-30 / Roe converted to towing wagon R59 Surviving Rotherham (RCT) trolleybuses Single-deckers 88 CET 613 Sunbeam MS2C / East Lancs (later numbered 73 then 74) Double-deckers 37 FET 617 Daimler CTE6 / Roe (originally East Lancs single deck body) 44 FET 618 Daimler CTE6 / Roe (originally East Lancs single deck body) Surviving Rotherham (RCT) support vehicles M50 ------------ AEC Matador Recovery M90 FET 195 Bedford OLAZ Tower Wagon M94 FET 218 Austin K8 Welders Truck Surviving Booth & Fisher Motor Services motorbuses Single-deckers ---- LRB 750 Bedford OB / Barnaby ---- TUH 7 Albion Nimbus NS3N / Harrington (ex Western Welsh) ---- TUH 14 Albion Nimbus NS3N / Harrington (ex Western Welsh) ---- WRA 12 AEC Monocoach MC3RV / Park Royal 1086 334 NKT AEC Reliance 2MU3RV / Weymann (ex Maidstone & District) 1088 340 NKT AEC Reliance 2MU3RV / Weymann (ex Maidstone & District) Surviving Dearneways motorbuses Single-deckers ---- 654 BUP Leyland Tiger Cub PSUC1/2 / Plaxton (ex Wilkinson, Sedgefield) 1092 AWJ 292T Leyland Leopard PSU3E/4R / Plaxton (now registered 368 SHX) Surviving A & C Wigmore motorbuses Single-deckers ---- NWR 788D Bedford VAL14 / Willowbrook ---- FYG 663J Bedford VAL70 / Willowbrook (now registered RCA 501B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Hall Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share Posted October 1, 2021 With the South Yorkshire Transport Trust 2021 Open Day a couple of days away I have updated my lists of Surviving South Yorkshire PTE motorbuses. That is those acquired new or second hand that were used by SYPTE excluding those acquired by absorbtion or take over. A sizeable number of these will be on display on Sunday. Comments and corrections welcomed. Single-deckers 80 KCR 108P Leyland National 10351/2R / Leyland (ex Portsmouth) 79 KSO 74P Leyland National 10351/2R / Leyland (ex Grampian) 11 AAK 111T Leyland National 10351B/1R / Leyland 1075 FWA 475V Leyland National NL106L11/1R / Leyland 22 KWA 22W Leyland National NL116L11/1R / Leyland 76 B976 DWG Dennis Dorchester SDA805 / Plaxton ( later B674 GWJ) 41 C41 HDT Dennis Domino SDA1202 / Optare 53 C53 HDT Dennis Domino SDA1202 / Optare Single-deckers hired during 1981 crisis 1972 GAT 180D Leyland Panther PSUR1/1 / Roe (hired from Kingston upon Hull CT 3-4/81) Single-deckers hired for trials and evaluation 1004 GNC 276N Seddon-Lucas / Pennine (hired from GMPTE) ---- C920 FMP Leyland Lynx / Leyland (hired from Leyland) Bendi-buses 2006 CRM 927T Leyland-DAB / Leyland 2009 FHE 292V Leyland-DAB / Leyland [front section only] 2010 FWA 450V Leyland-DAB / Leyland 2013 C113 HDT Leyland-DAB /Leyland-DAB Double-deckers 377 LWB 377P Ailsa B55-10 / Van-Hool McArdle 388 LWB 388P Ailsa B55-10 / Van-Hool McArdle 1655 XWG 655T Leyland Atlantean AN68A/1R / Roe 1696 CWG 696V Leyland Atlantean AN68A/1R / Alexander 1707 CWG 707V Leyland Atlantean AN68A/1R / Alexander 1756 CWG 756V Leyland Atlantean AN68A/1R / Roe 1861 JHE 161W Metrobus DR104/6 / MCW 1781 JKW 281W Leyland Atlantean AN68B/1R / Alexander 1790 JKW 290W Leyland Atlantean AN68B/1R / Alexander 1831 JKW 331W Leyland Atlantean AN68B/1R / Marshall 2120 KKU 120W Dennis Dominator DDA133 / Alexander 2214 NKU 214X Dennis Dominator DDA133 / Alexander 2260 SDT 260Y Dennis Dominator DDA133 / Alexander 2298 A298 XAK Dennis Dominator DDA165 / Alexander 2317 A317 XAK Dennis Dominator DDA165 / Northern Counties 1918 A118 XWE Metrobus DR104/11 / MCW 2414 A414 YAK Dennis Dominator DDA901 / Alexander 2361 B361 CDT Dennis Dominator DDA901 / East Lancs 2450 C45 HDT Dennis Dominator DTA1401 / Alexander –hybrid trolleybus 2457 C877 JWE Dennis Dominator DDA910 / Alexander 2462 C882 JWE Dennis Dominator DDA910 / Alexander 2479 D479 OWE Dennis Dominator DDA1011 / Alexander 2489 D489 OWE Dennis Dominator DDA1013 / Alexander Double-deckers hired during 1981 crisis 1964 PBC 98G Leyland Atlantean PDR1A/1 / ECW (hired from Leicester CT 3-6/81) 1938 WHN 411G Bristol VRTSL6G / ECW (hired from Lincolnshire RCC 4/81) Double-deckers hired for trials and evaluation 500 TOJ 592S Metrobus DR101/2 / MCW (hired from MCW – famous five) ---- XPD 659Y Dennis Falcon V / East Lancs (hired from Dennis) Surviving SYPTE Support vehicles M51 DSA 987 AEC Matador Recovery (ex Salford City Transport) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS2021 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Could anyone tell me what type of engine the Leyland Atlantean 657 BWB (1357 > 227) has ? Am I the only one who thinks Park Royal bodies Atlanteans were one of the best looking busses ever ? Them and late 70s Alexander bodied Atlanteans (the sub variants with the little grill in the middle of the front), obviously ! Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy117 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Peter, According to my son who has a bus at the SYTT, 657 BWB has a Gardner 6LXB in it. Nigel L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy117 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Whoops, further update 657 BWB has a Leyland 0.600, it's ther other one that has the Gardner. Nigel L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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