Sheffield History Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 More help needed by our Sheffield History detectives. This time it's the Norfolk Hotel we're looking for information on What can we find out about this place and what can you tell us about the first photo here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon crapper Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 There was a Norfolk Hotel at the junction of Handsworth Road and Finchwell street (which led down to Handsworth colliery) but it was a more substantial building with two big bay windows. If you search Picture Sheffield for trams, Handsworth you will find it, their reference number s16477. I think this was a rebuild on the site of your pictures because the wall and tree at the right seem to be the same. For a long time the Handsworth tram terminus was here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Walker Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 5 hours ago, Gordon crapper said: There was a Norfolk Hotel at the junction of Handsworth Road and Finchwell street (which led down to Handsworth colliery) but it was a more substantial building with two big bay windows. If you search Picture Sheffield for trams, Handsworth you will find it, their reference number s16477. I think this was a rebuild on the site of your pictures because the wall and tree at the right seem to be the same. For a long time the Handsworth tram terminus was here. The Norfolk Hotel building is still there, it is now the Highgate Day Nursery. I had always thought that the building, shown above, had bay windows added to give the current building but looking at the photos there is not enough room for the upper floor windows of the current building, so it must have been a rebuild. Yhe wall is still there but unfortunately the tree has gone. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Highgate+Day+Nursery/@53.3748172,-1.3921616,3a,75y,25.72h,92.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHiiHQEj8Wgqypz9kfdupbg!2e0!3e11!7i13312!8i6656!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x48799d6491f96a51:0x9e0b5f4dbfb7c0e1!2sFinchwell+Rd,+Sheffield+S13+9AR!3b1!8m2!3d53.3763093!4d-1.3882821!3m4!1s0x0:0xc8a9e91c9da6a5f9!8m2!3d53.3749997!4d-1.3921114 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Could it be the Norfolk Arms at Grenoside on Halifax Road? http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;t05914&pos=33&action=zoom&id=93910 http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s00112&pos=65&action=zoom&id=4110 On the other hand I believe I'v seen this picture before, Upperthorpe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boginspro Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 1 hour ago, ukelele lady said: Could it be the Norfolk Arms at Grenoside on Halifax Road? http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;t05914&pos=33&action=zoom&id=93910 http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s00112&pos=65&action=zoom&id=4110 On the other hand I believe I'v seen this picture before, Upperthorpe? Picture Sheffield say it is Upperthorpe Road but the address they give is I think the same as the Upperthorpe Hotel. Gordon's post about the tree and the wall looks quite convincing, the tree and wall look very much like those at Handsworth. Expert research needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 14 hours ago, boginspro said: Picture Sheffield say it is Upperthorpe Road but the address they give is I think the same as the Upperthorpe Hotel. Gordon's post about the tree and the wall looks quite convincing, the tree and wall look very much like those at Handsworth. Expert research needed. I agree with you there , the address 159 Upperthorpe Road is the Upperthorpe Hotel which is still there today and looks nothing like this building. In 1911 a Robert Macbeth was the victualler of 159 Upperthorpe which most likely was the Upperthorpe Hotel. I don't think it looks anything like the one at Handsworth either more like the one at Grenoside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boginspro Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 7 hours ago, ukelele lady said: I agree with you there , the address 159 Upperthorpe Road is the Upperthorpe Hotel which is still there today and looks nothing like this building. In 1911 a Robert Macbeth was the victualler of 159 Upperthorpe which most likely was the Upperthorpe Hotel. I don't think it looks anything like the one at Handsworth either more like the one at Grenoside. Yes I agree that it is similar to the Norfolk Arms at Grenoside but I can't see any matching stone work, and the chimneys, though same in number are at different angles. What do you make of the landlord's name on the sign. I have zoomed in as best as I can and it looks like George Finly / Inlby or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Scott Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 The landlord of the first picture is George Gray and the second is George Wilby, hope this helps it is a very awkward one to sort. Many thanks for your replies they have been very useful, would be great if we could find out more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neddy Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Gray, George (, Victualler Norfolk Hotel). Address: Handsworth, in 1871. Recorded in: Whites Sheffield & District Directory - 1871. Mary Elizabeth Gray 1901 George's second wife 1911 George Wilby-vict Norfolk Hotel to 1922-dies Near to Finchwell and The Hall 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boginspro Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 On 13/10/2017 at 17:46, neddy said: Gray, George (, Victualler Norfolk Hotel). Address: Handsworth, in 1871. Recorded in: Whites Sheffield & District Directory - 1871. Mary Elizabeth Gray 1901 George's second wife 1911 George Wilby-vict Norfolk Hotel to 1922-dies Near to Finchwell and The Hall Good one neddy, I knew this was a pub but didn't remember it's name, though not the same building, could the one in the picture be the one pulled down for road widening? The picture Sheffield link has a description. The map shows it at the bottom of Finchwell Road which was previously Park Lane. --------------------- (c) Google Street View https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3748172,-1.3921616,3a,75y,13.58h,93.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHiiHQEj8Wgqypz9kfdupbg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 ----------------------- Picture Sheffield http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;a01819&pos=35&action=zoom&id=113674 ---------------- and NLS http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=18&lat=53.3750&lon=-1.3923&layers=171&right=BingHyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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