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This programme can only be received by viewers getting their reception from the Crosspool transmitter, or who subscribe to Virgin Cable.

I would think the vast majority of Sheffield viewers have their aerials aligned on Emley Moor and can't receive the local TV programme.

I've never lived in a house with the aerial pointed at Crosspool.

It would seem that when Leeds gets a local TV station it will be transmitted by Emley Moor.

'So that's tune in to Leeds Local TV and find out what's happening in Leeds, or tune in to Look North and find out what's happening in Leeds. :(

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It would seem that when Leeds gets a local TV station it will be transmitted by Emley Moor.

'So that's tune in to Leeds Local TV and find out what's happening in Leeds, or tune in to Look North and find out what's happening in Leeds. :(

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:) Shame but true HD.

Must admit to liking Harry though. In fact the whole team are quite personable.

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If you live over East Bank Hill like I do and thousands of other Sheffielders do, you can't receive Crosspool or Emley Moor at all, our aerials are aligned with Belmont in Lincolnshire. That means we never get local news at all, and because the aerial faces continental Europe in times of high solar activity. high air pressure and sporadic E propagation conditions we can't receive anything due to interference from ZDF in Germany. (sometimes a better picture from Germany than from the BBC, but unreliable). Having suffered this for years we subscribed to Virgin Media cable TV, before it was Virgin Media, when it was still TeleWest. Once that was done all our TV was available in high quality, even HDTV, all the time, with the correct local versions of the news as well.

I could pick up Sheffield Live on its first day of broadcasting, on Virgin Media channel 159.

To be honest, at present there has been very little in the way of programmes and nothing really interesting worth watching, - so if you can't get it yet because you are on Freeview and can't get the Crosspool transmitter even within the City of Sheffield then don't worry, - at present you aren't missing much.

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I agree, you're not missing anything worth watching. They asked for programme proposals then didn't even bother getting back to most of the people who bothered to submit stuff.

They also promissed OfCom a full schedule, which I believe is supposed to be on air within 2 years of being awarded the licence, otherwise OfCom are allowed to take the licence back and give it to someone else. I think the 2 years is up sometime around the end of the month, so that should be interesting!

Some of you may remember Cablevision from back in the 70s. They failed because they had such a small audience they couldn't raise a big enough budget to make any decent programmes. That's basically why the so-called 'hyper-local tv' business model doesn't work very well. However SLTV have received a pretty hefty government hand out, which I understand continues for the next 3 years, funded from the BBC licence fee. They've also raised about 150,000 quid from some kind of share issue, so they've at least got the money to put out something half decent. However if they carry on like opening night I can't see many advertisers being interested in giving them anything. So once the funding dries up it will probably be bye bye SLTV.

Talking to a university lecturer from another part of the country, he told me they are already using SLTV as a case study in their media course of how not to do it!

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It wasn't a lecturer at Leeds university was it? <_<

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Given that they started broadcasting last month those times for the 2 year licence and the 3 year funding just don't seem to add up. Looks as though there is something funny going on here in terms of business and finance.

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It wasn't a lecturer at Leeds university was it? <_<

No, it was a lecturer from somewhere in Notts. Although Notts now has it's own channel too. It's not as much as a car-crash as SLTV though. Sheffield's station is like Wayne's World but without the laughs.

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Most digital TV's will pick up the stations of other transmitters, but many have a selection option for the regions. Some TV's put these extra channels at the top end of the guide and numbers so they might appear as channel 800 or higher!

If you are in an area that picks up Emily Moor as it main signals then the Sheffield Crosspool might be shown on these higher channels instead of channel 3 for the Sheffield news.

Here's a strange one for you though. My video recorder will pick up Sheffield Live, though My TV on the same aerial won't. I have tried retuning but when it gets to channel 55 - what Sheffield Live is on - it goes past it and adds no services. The TV will not allow you to manual tune channel 55 either. Only the channels that the auto tune has picked up!

The HD services are even worse. BBC One HD doesn't transmit any local news services. You get a clock counting down till the next programme. ITV1 HD broadcasts from Emily Moor the Granada service!

That's like going back before Yorkshire TV started!

In case your wondering why there's no HD Film Four service on Freeview, it's because it's locked into being paid for on the Virgin service. However you will have noticed that Channel Four have put one of the other "rubbish" extra channels they have on as a plus one HD service. This means that when they can release Film Four from the paid for contract they have a spare channel to put it on!

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TV transmission is quite a complex subject. Basically Freeview channels are grouped into a small number of 'mux' or multiplexes. Each mux is picked up individually by your freeview box, but the individual channels within that mux are picked up as a group. I think (from memory) there are 5 or 6 muxs broadcasting the Freeview service, but the channels on each mux are not in a logical order. For example all the BBC channels aren't on their own mux and C5 might be on a different mux to C5+1.

When you re-tune your TV sometimes it will miss a mux, often because of bad weather or a transmitter on low power. When this happens about 7 or 8 channels will suddenly go missing. Re-tune again and you should get them back.

Because Freeview is broadcast from local transmitters it normally only carries one local region for channels with regional opt outs such as ITV and BBC1. For these national channels with regional variations what actually happens is the signal is sent from the national play out centre to the regional centre in question, then sent from there to the local transmitter for broadcast. For example all of Sheffield's BBC1 freeview comes from the national play out centre at Red Bee in London, goes up to BBC Leeds and is then sent out from there to the transmitters an Emley Moor etc. When it's time for Look North or any other opt out, someone in Leeds throws a switch to cut off the signal from London and let their own studio take over. Occasionally they forget to do this and you get London news.

Now FreeSat and Sky are a different story. Because they are broadcast from one satellite to the whole country, to get regional variations each region has to be it's own stand alone channel which is transmitted to the whole country. With these systems your set top box or smart TV will have asked you what region you are in when you set it up. This is normally done by asking for your postcode. The software in your set then sorts out the programme guide and puts the correct version of BBC1 / ITV1 into the normal positions of 1 and 3 on your EPG, leaving all the other extra regions in the high channel numbers. This means that if you take your telly to Cornwall and don't reset it you'll still get Look North and Calendar!

SLTV has two transmission problems. First, it's only transmitted from the Crosspool transmitter, which actually doesn't serve much of Sheffield because of the hills causing radio shadows. This problem is compounded because as a local community station it's also transmitted on reduced power. The same applies to their radio station, which is why you can't get it beyond Manor Top most of the time.

If you really want to watch it I'm told it's also carried on virgin cable, but have no evidence as I don't have Virgin.

History Dude, SLTV should be on Freeview 8, between BBC 3 and BBC 4. All the new local channels are being broadcast on channel 8 in their respective areas. Are you accidentally viewing via Virgin cable, not Freeview?

Luckily I'm over the border into Derbyshire so have no chance of receiving SLTV at all (THANK GOD!) lol

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It is because of all this digital messing about that accurate time signals from the BBC (the pips and longer tone) are now totally useless. There is an approximate, but variable, 2 second time lag between receiving a good old fashioned analogue signal and its digital equivalent. Don't do any accurate timekeeping or clock setting using digital services because they are wrong. To get that these days you either need the old analogue, or a dedicated time signal service.

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Andy. We are on Freeview, however what you say about the weather might be killing the signal, though it doesn't explain why the Panasonic recorder we have picks it up clear as a bell. I'll try and retune the TV when we get some clear weather. I only retuned it because Film Four +1 disappeared and a message came up saying if the TV picks up Freeview HD signals you can get it back otherwise it's gone for good. Well our set can so I retuned and it lost channel 8.

DaveH yes I know what you mean about the delay. Freeview is slightly quicker than Sky as my neighbour who's a bit deaf had the telly on loud and she watches Sky for the TV all the time having no aerial for Freeview. In the summer I was out in the back garden and could hear Emmerdale start in our house then a fraction later on the Sky of our neighbour's TV.

Having watched bits of Sheffield Live, I can say it's a bit amateur in it's production. Even the radio side of it. It's very much in the style of those pirate stations of the 90's. For example a DJ will be playing a record and then say something in the middle of it then a minute later say something else. You know something like this:.... Music playing.. "just saying high to Paul".... (music)... "really good track".... (music)... top beat on this one... etc....

The Crosspool transmitter or should that be Tapton Hill, broadcasts it on channel 55 (746.0MHZ) along with QVC Extra and Pop. So if you scan your Freeview and nothing is added when it reaches 55 then you can't get it. Mind you it does say only 100 watts power!

There's a guide here for it http://www.ukfree.tv/transmitters/tv/Tapton_Hill

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Re-tuned my freeview after reading this earlier on. Still no channel 8

I'm in Crookes

Can't say I'm bothered, I was just curious.

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I wouldn't attempt to retune while this fog is around. On some boxes and sets you have to select the option for South Yorkshire, as selecting the Yorkshire could cancel out the services from the other transmitters. Also some TV's and Boxes have memory that don't erasure all channels or pick up new services, unless you do it manually.

I had one TV that had only an allowance of 100 stations. Since I had a good aerial it had to choose between 300 channels!

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I'll try it when it clears then - thanks

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This show is a waste of space, Sheffield is far more interesting than this show represents.

It mostly consist of music with Sheffield photos and a very poor news round up.

They do have basketball on occasionally which is good for the fans.To be honest I always ignore this show, if you cant get it, don't worry, your are not missing anything!!

Come on Sheffield we can do better than this!!

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They could have done a lot better Thorntons Girl. A year before they launched loads of people potched programmes to them (including yours truely) but nobody heard anything back for many months. Then we found out (weren't told but found out) that they had commissioned a few pilots. Eventually I went to an event where they screened the pilots and wished I hadn't! I'll never forget something called 'Peak Signal To Noise', which was nothing more than flashes of random images and ear-bleeding white noise. This piece of 'art' went on for over an hour! In the end I made sure I cut all ties with Sheffield Live (I used to front a lunch time radio show) a few weeks before the TV channel went on air, mainly because I could see the car-crash coming!

It's interesting that nobody ever mentions SLTV now, even in Sheffield! My guess is their audience is a big fat zero! Meanwhile I switched to being a youtube content creator, which commands a much bigger global audience.

 

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On 22/05/2018 at 18:23, andy1702 said:

They could have done a lot better Thorntons Girl. A year before they launched loads of people potched programmes to them (including yours truely) but nobody heard anything back for many months. Then we found out (weren't told but found out) that they had commissioned a few pilots. Eventually I went to an event where they screened the pilots and wished I hadn't! I'll never forget something called 'Peak Signal To Noise', which was nothing more than flashes of random images and ear-bleeding white noise. This piece of 'art' went on for over an hour! In the end I made sure I cut all ties with Sheffield Live (I used to front a lunch time radio show) a few weeks before the TV channel went on air, mainly because I could see the car-crash coming!

It's interesting that nobody ever mentions SLTV now, even in Sheffield! My guess is their audience is a big fat zero! Meanwhile I switched to being a youtube content creator, which commands a much bigger global audience.

 

I would love it to be relevant to the people of Sheffield and like you said you tried to send in ideas and articles. It sometimes has music with Sheffield photos which is interesting but more often than not it is pointless, not anything we, as Sheffielders can relate too.It could be so worthwhile if run by people actually listening to what we want. Andy, why dont you suggest yourself to run it or the managers of this site, you would all do a fabulous job, with your knowledge of Sheffield past and present. I would vote for you all!!

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To be honest I'd not have anything to do with Sheffield Live - it's a dead duck and seems to be rudderless which is a great shame as it could be a real asset to the city if it was steered correctly and more proactive work was done to get more interesting content on there.


Youtube is the way forward  (I'm running several channels on there) and I reckon I'll be doing way more Sheffield content on that platform.

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On 27/05/2018 at 10:27, Sheffield History said:

 

 

To be honest I'd not have anything to do with Sheffield Live - it's a dead duck and seems to be rudderless which is a great shame as it could be a real asset to the city if it was steered correctly and more proactive work was done to get more interesting content on there.


Youtube is the way forward  (I'm running several channels on there) and I reckon I'll be doing way more Sheffield content on that platform.

I think you're right about YouTube. I have a channel on there, which you can find via the website at www.andysshed.callpress.net I'm planning to do more historical content after a couple of videos on lost railways went down quite well.

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